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Prominent shareholder pushes Nintendo to join mobile gaming race
- Thread starter maxcriden
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Someone didn't read/listen last shareholder meeting x)
I'm curious about Nintendo being able to "immediatly" enter the mobile market, considering that they are making baby step about account system and all that.
The only Nintendo IP I can see on mobile is Wario Ware, seems to fit that audience well enough.
I'm curious about Nintendo being able to "immediatly" enter the mobile market, considering that they are making baby step about account system and all that.
The only Nintendo IP I can see on mobile is Wario Ware, seems to fit that audience well enough.
SolsticeZero
Banned
You joke, but you know how much money that shit makes?
I know, shitload. Still, it would be a nightmare. Mobile games are the creative equivalent of crocs shoes.
opticalmace
Member
That would bomb so bad.
Dr. Buni
Member
Ugh.
Nintendo making a phone would probably a bigger albatross around their neck than investing in mobile games.
This ain't the mid 2000's brah. Go get yourself an Ngage if you wanna be nostalgic.
Here For The Free Feed
Member
haha, this!
Risk Breaker
Member
Call of Duty and GTA also make a lot of money, his point?
You seriously wouldn't be into that?
A nice designed smartphone with Nintendo ecosystem integration and a bunch of bespoke first-party games would be pretty awesome in my eyes.
Animal Crossing, for one example, would work great! They could build an entire social network around it, integrating a bunch of other stuff into it.
SolsticeZero
Banned
Man, I had an n-gage. I've lived the pain once already.
Oasis Management isn't listed in the Major Shareholders of the Nintendo website: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/information/index.html
Considering the last listed only has 0.79% of the shares, this guy has even less.
Is he really "prominent"?
Considering the last listed only has 0.79% of the shares, this guy has even less.
Is he really "prominent"?
Why people keep thing negatively of mobile? Imagine a pokemon game on android/ios/wphone with all the social features and classic pokemon rpg game. That's just one example.
I can think many more, Tetris, Dr Mario, Wario Ware, Brain Training etc. Even MK.
The market is there, the potential is there, I just hope they do the right things.
I can think many more, Tetris, Dr Mario, Wario Ware, Brain Training etc. Even MK.
The market is there, the potential is there, I just hope they do the right things.
They really ought to dip their toes in and try something like Puzzle & Dragons or Brave Frontier. Very little risk with the potential for high rewards. They'd need to wrap their heads around how to make a mobile game though, not just put Mario in a title and charge £40.
There's money to be made, and Nintendo ain't getting much of it?
Looks like people who aren't practicing finance just want Nintendo to stay the course and continue to disappoint on almost all fronts except for handheld...which is getting challenged by iOS and android.
Honestly, if Nintendo went mobile, I wouldn't blame them. It's their only strong market right now, unfortunately. The problem is if that's a short term or long term profit for them. I sure don't know.
Honestly, if Nintendo went mobile, I wouldn't blame them. It's their only strong market right now, unfortunately. The problem is if that's a short term or long term profit for them. I sure don't know.
Takamura-San
Member
1, Negotiate with carriers.
2. The phone market is mostly dictated by 18up audience. (they have the power to actually buy a phone). Most kids (nintendo audience) have ipod touches and such.
3. Given the power of android, IOS and to a lesser extend WP8 Nintendo making a phone OS would be a waste of time and also would put developers on a position to support another dev kit. Unless porting tools are effective.
4. So many other things.
If Nintendo ever do it here are some ideas.
1. Release companion games for mobile.
2. Release a Virtual Console aimed for tablets, allow official support for pro gamepad.
3. Make mobile versions of unused IPs to gauge demand for console quality games. I.e Starfox on mobile to help fund starfox wii u.
1. Release companion games for mobile.
2. Release a Virtual Console aimed for tablets, allow official support for pro gamepad.
3. Make mobile versions of unused IPs to gauge demand for console quality games. I.e Starfox on mobile to help fund starfox wii u.
Who will makes the app for them then? I forget, it's Nintendo so we don't need third party software developers right?
Don't worry, you're not "practicing finance" either. You're shouting and throwing popcorn from the NeoGAF backseat just like everyone else.
SteveWinwood
Member
prominent gaf member suggests company do something
It will fix everything.
I don't disagree, but to say a company does something to make more money is crazy is a little crazy yes?
Shareholders, especially hedgefund managers, are in it for a quick buck, which is against Nintendo's plans. Nintendo plays the long game.
Besides, I remember seeing somewhere recently that Nintendo's revenue was on par with the iOS App Store.
Nintendo just need to get sales back onto their devices. Claiming defeat and switching to mobile would be a death sentence.
No, but saying a company should abandon their practices and follow the current market bubble which is bound to burst (like the Internet bubble did) is just negligent and ridiculous.
Besides, I remember seeing somewhere recently that Nintendo's revenue was on par with the iOS App Store.
Nintendo just need to get sales back onto their devices. Claiming defeat and switching to mobile would be a death sentence.
No, but saying a company should abandon their practices and follow the current market bubble which is bound to burst (like the Internet bubble did) is just negligent and ridiculous.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Nintendo needs revenue, they can release a very small number of titles on phones and use the proceeds to fund fuller, more traditional experiences.
I think they can exist on both platforms.
Nah, obviously we don't need another mobile OS. But an Android re-skinning, similar to the Kindle Fire would be cool.
They could put that out on their own designed smartphones, integrate it with their own online ecosystem, and connect it with the eShop.
Nintendo are awful at both hardware and especially software. Even the worst smartphone makers are significantly better at that than Nintendo - it'd likely be awful.
And they're losing the long game, despite having the biggest war chest from last generation. Nintendo needs parity with the other guys and they're being consistently being edged out. A shift in direction is inevitable.
Amazeballs
Member
Prominent shareholder demonstrates lack of knowledge of the medium.
Awful at hardware? I think the 3DS XL is gorgeous. I thought most people agreed with that too?
Short-sightedness at its finest.
Also, for all the Candy Crush Sagas and Flappy Birds out there, there are thousands of very similar games that flopped spectacularly. The mobile business is really more of a lottery but shareholders and some enthusiast writers are blinded by the extreme extent of these success stories.
Also, for all the Candy Crush Sagas and Flappy Birds out there, there are thousands of very similar games that flopped spectacularly. The mobile business is really more of a lottery but shareholders and some enthusiast writers are blinded by the extreme extent of these success stories.
No, they're not losing the long game. They've hit a bump, but they're not losing. If they had 6-7 years of losses, then yes. However, they have had two years of operating loss, one of which in overall profit, and they've projected an overall loss for a second year due to rapid expansion and other things. If we looked just at FY32014 figures from Q1-Q3, they were looking at another year of operating loss but overall profit, but they are expanding fast this quarter which has pushed them back into the red.
Plus, something people keep missing...the Wii U is not their entire business. 3DS is doing well.
They are far, far from losing.
plank
Member
A can't detect any sarcasm.
Prince Vultan
Banned
They are definitely going to need to look for new sources of income outside of their own hardware in the next few years the way things have been going for them.
Even if they don't want to develop mobile specific titles from scratch, I honestly don't see why they don't just start releasing Virtual Console shit on mobile platforms. It would be like money for nothing.
Even if they don't want to develop mobile specific titles from scratch, I honestly don't see why they don't just start releasing Virtual Console shit on mobile platforms. It would be like money for nothing.
That's not the problem. The problem is them doing it right and off the bat. They do it wrong they will cannibalize themselves or just make things worse while wasting time and resources.
Captain Smoker
Member
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/information/index.html
Oasis hasn't even 0,79% of the company.
Iwata laughs. And buys more shares.
Oasis hasn't even 0,79% of the company.
Iwata laughs. And buys more shares.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Does Nintendo seem like the kind of company that would work with third party carriers? Hell, they don't work with third parties in the industry in which they belong.
He knows how to make money though
I think they're smart enough to do it right.
They have to do something