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Just released by Jeff Minter. This is THE game I've been waiting for in vr.
Just released by Jeff Minter. This is THE game I've been waiting for in vr.
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TxK VR released - tempest 2000 in virtual reality holy shit
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Freedom = $1.05
Banned
i'm not going to try this because i dont want to die
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Jesus. This game would be trippy as fuck in VR.
Should be on the back of the box.
TheFNEffecT
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zephervack
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Woooho, I hope I can try this using Trinus Gyre and Cardbaord VR, does it use the Oculus SDK at all or is it just a PC game running SBS?
MichaelFassbender
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Never have I wanted an Oculus more than at this moment.
Uses Oculus sdk, but a version is coming to morpheus too
I think it might be dk2 only.
God I'm seriously considering going home early just to try this.
From the link in the OP
It's probably not ideal but I'll take whatever I can get. I'll come back with some feedback as soon as I'm done trying it.
Visualante2
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TxK coming to PC, that's awesome. I felt that Jeff was a bit down on how Space Giraffe did on PC, thought he'd given up on the platform altogether.
Beer Monkey
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All over my virtual tits.
metsallica
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Somebody play it and survive so you can tell us about it!
Cheat Code
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Pleasure.
How is the melting color effect? Does it feel like bleeding colors flying at you?
djplaeskool
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FEED YOUR HEAD
TO THE WEB
TxK is outstanding on Vita.
Can only imagine the nuttiness on a Rift.
TO THE WEB
TxK is outstanding on Vita.
Can only imagine the nuttiness on a Rift.
SerTapTap
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yesssss. Whichever comes first
That's the design intent of Minter's Tempest series. It's his actual stated goal. It plays off the concept of flow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)
His design principle is to throw as much extraneous visual information at the player as possible such that players can focus and filter it all out to artificially evoke "the zone." I get the feeling many players don't understand this or can't easily enter "the zone" but if you're the type of person who can enter "the zone" at will, it's a powerful experience.
All this is on a flat screen, I can't imagine how awesome this will be cranked up to 11 in VR.
Yeah, I know. I already played it on Vita but the feeling really gets amplified in VR.
I've been fascinated by Jeff Minter's design principles since I first got my Jaguar and Tempest 2000 in 1996, it has seriously affected my philosophy on video game design. I think the guy is brilliant.
Tempest 2000 is one of my absolute favorite games of all time, I think the series is his magnum opus. I've tried all of his titles since - I really like his Mutant Camel series - but Tempest 2000 stands above all. Everything seemed to come together with that game, from soundtrack to graphics to especially gameplay.
Dog Problems
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Tempest 2000 on Jaguar was also my first exposure to his work. I don't have it anymore but still regularly listen to the soundtrack. I've been following what he does since.
Anyway, I don't have an Oculus (yet) but when the time comes this will be one of the first things I try. Love the game on Vita.
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I wish I wasn't working right now. This is cool. I'm in the mood for Tempest and I haven't played one since, like, Space Giraffe's launch on 360.
I wish I wasn't working right now. This is cool. I'm in the mood for Tempest and I haven't played one since, like, Space Giraffe's launch on 360.
Stilton Disco
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Well, that's me sold on VR.
AcceptableGhost
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I guess this is what was holding up the PC version? Seems like it could be pretty cool.
Sure, I already have a facecam and everything:
Played just a few minutes of the demo, and while it's not quite up to the face melting colors as seen in 2001, it's still pretty darn cool.
The issue with T2000 is that it runs like dog shit. For a fast paced arcade game it's unacceptable that it jumps from 60 fps to 15 fps depending on what's happening on screen. TxK is a much more playable game as a result of this.
Heck, I just spent a few hours over the holidays playing Tempest 2000 with a rotary controller and everything (which, while not perfect, definitely feels better than a normal Jag pad). It's a great game but it's let down by its tech.
You do know that different Jaguars have different performance, right? The early production jaguars have the behavior you are describing. My late series jag is free of said problem.
Just tried TxK VR - impressive but not one of the more mind blowing demos I've played. It helps make the game more playable, actually, as you have a great sense of scale to the playing field but the surrounding tunnel feels small and enclosed in VR. As in, you can see the artificial boundary making it seems tiny. It's very cool that you can turn around and look within the tunnel, though, and I like how, if you stand up at the main menu, you can place your head right in the middle of the flying triangles. It's definitely neat and has a lot of potential.
Also, this happened (just two of the systems pictured but we had more). Networked Jag Doom. It does work, but it's not great. It disconnects regularly which causes a level restart and every level in COOP is a pistol start. Still cool, though.
Yeaaaah, but we played it on five different Jaguar machines from different dates based on that idea. I did notice a difference but it still doesn't hold steady at all. It's a weird system for sure.
Also, this happened (just two of the systems pictured but we had more). Networked Jag Doom. It does work, but it's not great. It disconnects regularly which causes a level restart and every level in COOP is a pistol start. Still cool, though.
It's a problem with the advance controller port controller on the system, so funnily enough what controller you use also affects the problem. And thus, which controller you chopped up to make your rotary controller.
Also, this happened (just two of the systems pictured but we had more). Networked Jag Doom. It does work, but it's not great. It disconnects regularly which causes a level restart and every level in COOP is a pistol start. Still cool, though.
They actually cover this in the manual, haha. They claim it's "interference from hell."
Battle Sphere Gold also has networking - up to 16 players at once.
Oh shit, that's a great point about the controller as we did use the same rotary pad across the board. I could see that being an issue. :\
Yes, I love that quote about "interference from hell" in the manual. Golden stuff. Wasn't Doom released BEFORE the adapter anyways? Such a weird thing.
Didn't realize Battle Sphere Gold had networking - will have to give that whirl sometime.
Do the different models impact other games performance? Like, we've had a blast with Club Drive due to the insanity of it but I got a kick out of the fact that driving up to a traffic cone in first person drops the frame-rate to like 2 fps which you can use to screw up the other player. Quite a riot but it would be interesting if it could run faster on a different system.
Beer Monkey
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I sold my Battlesphere and Catbox years ago, I can attest that the networking is solid in that game. The Doom port has bad network code. Actually a good port of the game from a graphical engine perspective.
Yes, until PSX Doom, it was far and away the best console version. it's a great port.
Beer Monkey
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It doesn't have the final boss, that's just a cartridge size limitation thing. Carmack himself wrote a lot of the Jaguar code, probably most of it.
John Carmack said:Many developers are planning on waiting out the eary 32 bit hardware wars, but I want to do a cool product even if it doesn't make tons of money. Sandy (our map designer) semi-derisively calls DOOM jaguar my "reward" for writing DOOM pc. "Good job, you can go play with your new toys."
Our initial appraisal of the Jaguar was "nice system, but Atari probably can't make it a success". But when I got the technical documentation, I was VERY impressed. This is the system I want to see become a standard platform.
I was slated to do a cut down version of DOOM for the super nintendo SFX chip, but I kept thinking about how cool a jaguar version of DOOM would be, and nintendo kept rejecting wolfenstein-snes for b*****t reasons (a den cross bonus item might offend christians. right.).
We finally decided that we didn't want to be a part of the chicken-and-the-egg problem of new systems not attracting customers because developers haven't written for the platform because there are no customers. The jag is cool, I think it has a shot at success, and I am going to put my time where my mouth is.
Why the jag is cooler than the 3DO (from my point of view): It only costs $250. The bulk of its processing power is user programmable. The 3DO has a capable main processor (a couple times better than the weak 68k in the jag), but most of its power is in custom hardware that has narrow functionality for affine transformations. The jag has some stupid hardware for z buffering and gouraud shading, but I can just ignore it and tell the two 27mhz risc chips to do EXACTLY what I want. A 64 bit bus with multiple independant processors may not be the easiest thing to optimize for, but there is a LOT of potential.
