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NeoGAF Creative Writing Challenge #25 - "Echo"

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Cyan

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Theme - "Echo"

Word Limit: 1551

Submission Deadline: Wednesday, 4/8 by 11:59 PM Pacific.

Voting begins Thursday, 4/9, and goes until Saturday, 4/11 at 11:59 PM Pacific.

Optional Secondary Objective: Goal
Goals create conflict, and conflict drives stories. Give your main character a definite goal that they are trying to reach. It doesn't have to be made explicit in the story, and the MC doesn't have to succeed or fail at it. But they should be striving toward something.

Submission Guidelines:

- One entry per poster.
- All submissions must be written during the time of the challenge.
- Using the topic as the title of your piece is discouraged.
- Keep to the word count!

Voting Guidelines:

- Three votes per voter. Please denote in your voting your 1st (3 pts), 2nd (2 pts), and 3rd (1 pt) place votes.
- Please read all submissions before voting.
- You must vote in order to be eligible to win the challenge.
- When voting ends, the winner gets a collective pat on the back, and starts the new challenge.

NeoGAF Creative Writing Challenge FAQ


The Results:

1st Place: DumbNameD - "Charlie"
2nd Place (tie): crowphoenix - "Pleasant Sounds"
2nd Place (tie): ronito - "Homage"

The Entries:

ronito - "Homage"
Botolf - "Memory Recursive"
Ward - "Reverberation"
John Dunbar - "Effie and Nathaniel"
crowphoenix - "Pleasant Sounds"
Aaron - "Echobox"
Timedog - "Aria"
Scribble - "Narcissus Sees the Light-Echo: A Love Story"
Kevtones - "Trivial Pursuits (and Masturbation)"
Cyan - "Little Sister"
DumbNameD - "Charlie"
 

Cyan

Banned
crowphoenix said:
ECHO... Echo... echo.


So... I was driving down De La Cruz Blvd yesterday, which made me wonder where nitewulf has gotten to. ;) Nitewulf, you gonna join us this time?
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
I think for this one I am going to make it into a children's book with proper illustrations. Also, I am supposed to make one for an art show and I have one week to think of something so I will use this as inspiration.
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
fuck, i was thinking about doing a childrens story(sans illustrations) for a future challenge called Peepee Man. I'll save it for something in the future.
 
So, lets foster a bit of discussion up in this place.

What was the moment you decided you want to write and did it actually lead to something you still find?

I remember writing a satire piece in my English composition class, and my teacher told me that I should be a writer. I was so thrilled I set about figuring out how to do that. There were other things that led to this, but that was the defining moment that actually got me to try. Not knowing what to do, I ended up writing a fanfic. I don't even think I could ever go back and reread it. It'd probably kill me.

So, what about you guys?
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
Timedog said:
fuck, i was thinking about doing a childrens story(sans illustrations) for a future challenge called Peepee Man. I'll save it for something in the future.

Dude, I want to see a kid's book from you. You should go for it sir.

To crowphoenix: The moment I wanted to write narratives was the day I realized that I could never make any movie perfectly and it takes too much time to do it. Also film students usually annoy me so I never wanted to deal with those kids anymore. I think another main reason why I write is because I hate to read because my mind wanders off too much whenever I try to read anything so I write stuff that I want to read. The biggest push for me to be a writer was when I quit my job after my moped broke down and didn't want to walk to work 2 and a half hours per day, lived way far away from everyone, internet was disconnected at my place, and my phone was disconnected. I was bored so I wrote my first book.
 

Ward

Member
crowphoenix said:
So, what about you guys?

I decided I was not going to write in 2003. This was due to negative teacher reviews and the overall acrimonious outlook teachers described if I were to continue writing.

Then I discovered writing challenge #18, that prompted me to reassess my loathing of writing. I declined to submit even though I wrote a contribution.

I succumbed to submitting in challenge #19 with the hope that I would not be the worst contributor. Someone actually liked my story so I wrote another... and so it goes.
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
I decided to write because I don't read anything that's not on the internet and I think I'm okay at writing cool blog type stuff but not stories. When I was in 5th grade I was writing stories about action and violence. When the teacher told me I couldn't write that stuff anymore my mind went blank and I couldn't write anything good besides like "sellout" type stuff that I wrote only because the teacher would like it. I'm only good at writing about stuff that I think is "cool". I'm in this limbo between the "cool" stuff, like my first few submissions that everyone hated and didn't understand until I explained it, and the "sellout" stuff, like the one about the sculptor. I can't find use for anything other than those 2 extremes. Somewhere in between could be candyland but I haven't found it yet. I'm still stuck in chutes and ladders.
 

Cyan

Banned
AlternativeUlster said:
Dude, I want to see a kid's book from you. You should go for it sir.
That sounds terrifying. I mean, it would be interesting... but I'm pretty sure I'd never want an actual kid to see it.

Ward said:
I succumbed to submitting in challenge #19 with the hope that I would not be the worst contributor. Someone actually liked my story so I wrote another... and so it goes.
Nice. :)

Timedog said:
I'm in this limbo between the "cool" stuff, like my first few submissions that everyone hated and didn't understand until I explained it, and the "sellout" stuff, like the one about the sculptor. I can't find use for anything other than those 2 extremes. Somewhere in between could be candyland but I haven't found it yet. I'm still stuck in chutes and ladders.
I thought the Malugo-ant thing struck a pretty good balance.

Also, have you ever read Philip Jose Farmer? I just finished reading To Your Scattered Bodies Go, and I kind of feel like that's how you might write if you dialed back the crazy a bit. Maybe not, I dunno.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
The only writing gig I ever got that paid was when I was writing spanking pornography oddly enough.
For some reason, that doesn't actually surprise me. Was it a good paying gig?
 
Yay, got my internet back! :D

As for me...the earliest I can remember (though it didn't necessarily spark my drive) is a storytelling project I did back in kindergarten about a crazy leprechaun (inspired by the movie of the same name) that, surprisingly, everyone got into as I read it/showed it on a projector (I drew out each page and there was blood, I remember :D).

Before that, though, I was always fond of storytelling and just watching the "lives" of other people. Along my own life I picked up tons of storytelling methods--pacing, twists, etc.--and improvised my own that I use today.

I never actually wrote anything down until about the sixth or seventh grade, just imagined tons of stories. And actually, last year I looked at a story I had saved from seventh grade and it was awful :lol Suffice to say, I've definitely come a long way--age does that, I suppose.

I write because it's fun and I'd like to make something of it one day. I also don't let others' negative thoughts on my writing affect me; just because they don't like it doesn't mean it's bad--everyone has an audience, however big or small :D

So, yeah, none of you should be deterred by others!

So to bring about another point of discussion, what would you guys like to improve in your writing?

As for myself, I definitely need to reach out and embrace different moods. I think I have a knack for the morbid/dark/insane/grotesque/entersynonymhere because it's easy for me to be creative about such things without much effort. Admittedly, I don't think I've ever written a piece that isn't like that and I wonder if I could pull off a "nice" story...

So, yeah, try different moods for me D: Oh, and I'm told my writing is hard to read sometimes because of my sentence structure which is seen as "too hard" by some and "awesome" by others (I let a bunch of friends/people (online and off) read my stuff for feedback and I use that to do some things differently--let your stuff be read, guys :D). I'll experiment and try an easy-to-read style that's a "nice" mood
with dark undertones 8D
.
 

Zamorro

Member
From a young age I loved to read and that made me want to be a writer as a small kid. I remember I wrote a small piece for a school paper when I was 5, 6 or 7 years old and the teachers loved it. The story was about poop and creatures that lived inside it, believe it or not, and they had to accompany it with a disclaimer that they knew the subject was inappropiate but they wanted to place it anyway. I remember this very vaguely of course.

In highschool I had to write essays for Dutch classes. One time the teacher showed my work to other students in class, who began to read it, looked at me and shook their head. It turns out the teacher asked them if they thought I could have written it, because he thought I had copied it from a book (this was before the age of the internet). He gave me a C for that essay. Every time after that when I got my essay back with a grade this teacher would smile at me knowingly, probably thinking "I am on to you, son". He even asked me trick questions one time to test if I knew what was in a piece. That discouraged me to write anything else until now, although I know and knew even back then I should have taken it as a compliment. It could also be that I just use that as an excuse, but you never know what would have happened if I would have been actually encouraged at that stage.

Then I found this thread and I thought "what the hell" and threw together a few stories. My next goal it to actually reread and edit my stories after a few days, but I still postpone beginning writing until the last day. After I submit, I feel relieved but annoyed at myself for waiting so long. And I feel bad that you people have to do some of the editing for me.

I really like it when people are honest and direct in their criticism. My first impulse is always to think "No, that's not trueeee!", but after some time has passed, I can almost always find something useful in the remarks. It's just that when you write something and if you're not experienced, you create blind spots for yourself only someone else can find.

AlternativeUlster said:
It paid pretty well. They only published 3 stories but I made like 300 or so on it.
Wow. That's a spankingly handy sum. :D

dragonlife29 said:
So to bring about another point of discussion, what would you guys like to improve in your writing?
Better rhythm in my writing. Less stilted use of the english language. Making stories more transparent so that the reader can actually understand what I'm trying to communicate. Using different writing styles. Distinct characters with their own peculiarities. Better, more natural dialogue. Etc. etc.
 

Cyan

Banned
dragonlife29 said:
As for myself, I definitely need to reach out and embrace different moods. I think I have a knack for the morbid/dark/insane/grotesque/entersynonymhere because it's easy for me to be creative about such things without much effort. Admittedly, I don't think I've ever written a piece that isn't like that and I wonder if I could pull off a "nice" story...
Heh, I kind of have the opposite problem.

I'm a pretty optimistic person for the most part (if you can't tell... ;) ), and I think that comes through in my stories. I actually have a hard time writing anything other than a happy ending, because as I'm writing a story it usually doesn't occur to me that an unhappy ending is even possible. So yeah, I have trouble going dark.
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
I want to be able to describe complicated movements and positions and have people understand what i'm talking about. I want to be able to describe it very clinically. Like maybe a 2000 word story detaling an arm movement from the point of view of not knowing what an arm is. I also want to make a story that is exciting without using adjectives or describing stuff like how a room looks or the sound that the tires made on wet asphalt unless those details actually have some sort of affect on the narrative. But I think my ultimate goal would be to write something that could possibly make the reader go insane without being like 20,000 pages. Like a 200 page book that is interesting and good, but could make someone lose their mind.
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
Timedog said:
I want to be able to describe complicated movements and positions and have people understand what i'm talking about. I want to be able to describe it very clinically. Like maybe a 2000 word story detaling an arm movement from the point of view of not knowing what an arm is. I also want to make a story that is exciting without using adjectives or describing stuff like how a room looks or the sound that the tires made on wet asphalt unless those details actually have some sort of affect on the narrative. But I think my ultimate goal would be to write something that could possibly make the reader go insane without being like 20,000 pages. Like a 200 page book that is interesting and good, but could make someone lose their mind.

You really need to read David Ohle's Motor-Man good sir. It is short and it really is the novel that made me not want to read anything afterwards and I have yet to finish reading a novel in the 4 years since I have read it.
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
AlternativeUlster said:
You really need to read David Ohle's Motor-Man good sir. It is short and it really is the novel that made me not want to read anything afterwards and I have yet to finish reading a novel in the 4 years since I have read it.
Yeah i put it on my Amazon future purchases list after you recommended it before and I read a review.
 
I think my biggest flaw is that my ideas are a bit childish and cliche, which is something I've been trying to work on, but I don't think it's working yet.
 

ronito

Member
What I've noticed here through my own writing and writings of others is that I've gotten too comfortable. My style keeps seeming the same over and over. I noticed when I read certain entries and was like "I've danced this dance before. What else you got?" then I realized I was just as guilty. That's why I'm trying to push myself out of my comfort zone (ergo, why I went with the S&M last time). This time I'm trying out an homage, trying to write in someone else's style.
 
ronito said:
What I've noticed here through my own writing and writings of others is that I've gotten too comfortable. My style keeps seeming the same over and over. I noticed when I read certain entries and was like "I've danced this dance before. What else you got?" then I realized I was just as guilty. That's why I'm trying to push myself out of my comfort zone (ergo, why I went with the S&M last time). This time I'm trying out an homage, trying to write in someone else's style.
Yeah, I'm bad about that. Hence why the last two submissions have been something so random. I tend to write really long flowing sentences when not restrained by a word count and ramble on far more than I should. That's actually why I wrote such a choppy entry for "night."

Of course, one of my main problems with my style is that I so want to write like Terry Pratchett. He's my favorite author, but he's so much what I am not, that I don't think I'll ever accomplish that dream.
 

Scribble

Member
I started 'being a writer' because in primary school, my teachers used to praise my fairy tale retellings a lot. I stopped writing between 10 - 18 (20 now), and now I'm trying to reclaim my former enthusiasm. And thanks to these challenges, it's working.

Man, there is so much I need to improve. Grammar. Description. Ideas. Motivation! I would really like to write an 'epic' novel (I've now warmed to the idea of writing a novel. Not necessarily formulaic fantasy, but still a huge jaunty adventure story inspired by Alice in Wonderland. It sounds juvenile, but still! I also enjoy writing silly random stuff, and humour. I also want to write the kind of stuff that Terry Pratchett, Tom Holt and Douglas Adams do/did, and the 'original fantasy' that China Mieville guy does (But light hearted). Oh, and it's not really original, but I like working with fairy tales and nursery rhymes and fables. To be honest, I want to write about anything and everything.

Tideas said:
so how would I submit this? lol.

Do I just post it on here? or should Iget a link?

Post it here.
 
Tideas said:
so how would I submit this? lol.

Do I just post it on here? or should Iget a link?
Just post it here, and wait a day or two for your patented "Gaf Critique" brought to you by the fine folks at Gaf Writing Services. Where your improvement is our prime concern.

In all seriousness, post it here and we'll read and critique it. And Ronito will probably get to it first, because he's pretty on top of things.


Scribble said:
Man, there is so much I need to improve. Grammar. Description. Ideas. Motivation! I would really like to write an 'epic' novel (I've now warmed to the idea of writing a novel. Not necessarily formulaic fantasy, but still a huge jaunty adventure story inspired by Alice in Wonderland. It sounds juvenile, but still! I also enjoy writing silly random stuff, and humour. I also want to write the kind of stuff that Terry Pratchett, Tom Holt and Douglas Adams do/did, and the 'original fantasy' that China Mieville guy does (But light hearted). Oh, and it's not really original, but I like working with fairy tales and nursery rhymes and fables. To be honest, I want to write about anything and everything.

So, I guess you, like me, need to grow comfortable in your writing skin. I'm always a tad worried when I have an idea and then sit back and go, "How childish!"

Also, I need to check out those writers you mentioned. Probably some good reading there.
 

Mengy

wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I used to write lots of short stories, just ideas that would pop into my head so I’d write about them. I stopped writing when I got married, bought a house, and then divorced, and it hasn’t been until recently that I started dabbling in it again.

But the moment I realized that I enjoyed writing was in second grade. My teacher gave us an assignment to write a short story of our own, most kids wrote a paragraph or two, no big deal. I wrote a two page story about a warrior in a trapped dungeon chasing a hooded man. He eventually corners him, and the hooded man tries to worm his way out of it but the warrior kills him anyway. My teacher was concerned about my subject matter, but my parents were impressed with how good it was. I still have the original story, now and then I read it and it somewhat amazes me that I wrote it when I was 7 years old. I can still remember the feeling I had while I was writing it: joy. I thought writing was fun.
 

Cyan

Banned
Tideas said:
so how would I submit this? lol.

Do I just post it on here? or should Iget a link?
Just post. We're not too picky on formatting or anything, except that we'd like a word count listed so we know you were paying attention. :)

Scribble said:
would really like to write an 'epic' novel (I've now warmed to the idea of writing a novel. Not necessarily formulaic fantasy, but still a huge jaunty adventure story inspired by Alice in Wonderland.
You should totally do this. I was completely serious a few challenges ago when I said my Alice in Wonderland-esque piece was inspired by your stuff.

Mengy said:
My teacher was concerned about my subject matter
:lol Doesn't that just figure? I remember I had a few teachers when I was a kid who thought I might be retarded because I just stared out the window all the time. Of course, I was imagining I was somewhere more fun. Luckily, my parents didn't listen to those guys. Heh.
 

ronito

Member
Scribble said:
I started 'being a writer' because in primary school, my teachers used to praise my fairy tale retellings a lot. I stopped writing between 10 - 18 (20 now), and now I'm trying to reclaim my former enthusiasm. And thanks to these challenges, it's working.

Man, there is so much I need to improve. Grammar. Description. Ideas. Motivation! I would really like to write an 'epic' novel (I've now warmed to the idea of writing a novel. Not necessarily formulaic fantasy, but still a huge jaunty adventure story inspired by Alice in Wonderland. It sounds juvenile, but still! I also enjoy writing silly random stuff, and humour. I also want to write the kind of stuff that Terry Pratchett, Tom Holt and Douglas Adams do/did, and the 'original fantasy' that China Mieville guy does (But light hearted). Oh, and it's not really original, but I like working with fairy tales and nursery rhymes and fables. To be honest, I want to write about anything and everything.



Post it here.
Scribble, I'd love to see the epic novel. But first I'd REALLY love to see a kids book from you. I read your bunny story to my kids and wife they all loved it. Yes, that's right guys, if you write something good enough I do indeed read it to my wife and sometimes my kids. Doesn't happen often but it does happen.
 

Cyan

Banned
ronito said:
Scribble, I'd love to see the epic novel. But first I'd REALLY love to see a kids book from you. I read your bunny story to my kids and wife they all loved it. Yes, that's right guys, if you write something good enough I do indeed read it to my wife and sometimes my kids. Doesn't happen often but it does happen.
I send all my stories off to my mom (yeah, I know), and occasionally my little brother. That week, I included Scribble's bunny story as well. :lol

Stop copying me!
 
I tell no one about my stories. :D

However, if I thought they wanted to read some of them, I probably would have passed along a lot of the other entries into the challenges. Some of Nitewulf's De La Cruz stuff. Cyan's piece with the baby on the space station. Ronito's one about the toys in the lost and found. Timedog's winning piece. DumbNameD's piece on the space station. Scribble's on the three little Kittens. And so one.

Almost everyone has written something worth remembering in my opinion.
 

Xater

Member
So I am not sure if I will take part in it this time but I've been a lurker. Basically I just wanted to know if you guys have enough patience to read a story from some whose mother tongue isn't English.

I actually just started writing last November and now I am doing movie reviews for a German website.
 

Zamorro

Member
Xater said:
So I am not sure if I will take part in it this time but I've been a lurker. Basically I just wanted to know if you guys have enough patience to read a story from some whose mother tongue isn't English.

I actually just started writing last November and now I am doing movie reviews for a German website.
I am Dutch and people seem to read my stories. It is a bit of a handicap though because my fingerspitzengefuhl for English is not quite as good as it is for Dutch.
 
Xater said:
So I am not sure if I will take part in it this time but I've been a lurker. Basically I just wanted to know if you guys have enough patience to read a story from some whose mother tongue isn't English.

I actually just started writing last November and now I am doing movie reviews for a German website.
We don't care how bad your English is. We'll read it regardless and take that into consideration.
 

Cyan

Banned
Xater said:
So I am not sure if I will take part in it this time but I've been a lurker. Basically I just wanted to know if you guys have enough patience to read a story from some whose mother tongue isn't English.
Yeah, go for it. We've had a few non-native English speakers submit things before. I hadn't realized Zamorro was one, though.

crowphoenix said:
Almost everyone has written something worth remembering in my opinion.
Indeed, there's been a lot of awesome stuff!
 

Ward

Member
This is why I love these challenges;

I had the basic idea of my story with my main character and one scene, though no idea how to start or finish. So I just start writing about my character, and my story has begun to take shape- a shape quite different from what I first imagined, but satisfying regardless.

Unfortunately, it borders on too technical which might mean boring. I also feel I'll get critiques of "too static". Now, to try and overcome these pitfalls, since I refuse to make it less technical =)
 

Tideas

Banned
I just realized my story is too long =(. Even when I break it up into 2 parts, haha.

it's over 7000 words
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
I came up with a great idea during a long shower last night but I forgot it. The only good ideas I've ever had for anything either came to me during a shower, or right as I'm half asleep and about to dream.
 

Cyan

Banned
Man, that happens to me a lot. I get ideas in the shower or in the bathroom, and then forget what the idea was by the time I go to write it down. Lame. And then I'm convinced it was the greatest idea of all time ever, and get really frustrated that I forgot.
 
I always get my best ideas while driving entirely too fast. Usually zoning out and listening to some pumping music like Social Distortion or Midtown. Man, I used to write some epic fight scenes to that.
 

ronito

Member
it sounds cliche but I've seriously considered carrying a small booklet with me, just because I'll be walking around and suddenly have a flash of brilliance and I think "I need to remember this, this time I wont forget!" Then when I get to a place to write it down I totally forgot.

This also happens at work. Once I left a meeting where everyone was faced with a problem that no one could solve. I went to the bathroom and while I was pissing the solution came right to me. After I finished I walked back to the meeting (where people were still arguing) and started to draw the design on the white board explaining how we were going to fix it. When I turned around everyone was totally silent finally someone said, "What the hell did you do in the bathroom?" Ever since when I'm stumped my boss says, "Go to the bathroom!" some call me the Potty Prophet.
 

Cyan

Banned
ronito said:
it sounds cliche but I've seriously considered carrying a small booklet with me, just because I'll be walking around and suddenly have a flash of brilliance and I think "I need to remember this, this time I wont forget!" Then when I get to a place to write it down I totally forgot.
I actually do this. :lol It helps a lot with remembering things. I originally mostly got it to write down to-do lists and boring crap like that, but I use it a lot for story ideas and stuff now. I've got some potential future story ideas in there, alongside a few of my older stories' premises. In fact, flipping through it I'm noticing that the stories that turned out better are the ones that I have stuff written about in my notebook. I didn't use all the thoughts or ideas that I jotted for each one in there, but I think just the act of writing the stuff down helped cement things in my mind, so they could develop better.

This also happens at work. Once I left a meeting where everyone was faced with a problem that no one could solve. I went to the bathroom and while I was pissing the solution came right to me. After I finished I walked back to the meeting (where people were still arguing) and started to draw the design on the white board explaining how we were going to fix it. When I turned around everyone was totally silent finally someone said, "What the hell did you do in the bathroom?" Ever since when I'm stumped my boss says, "Go to the bathroom!" some call me the Potty Prophet.
This is beautiful. :lol
 

Scribble

Member
I feel totally inspired now. Many thanks, guys!

I've tried the notebook thing. Once, I spent a train journey describing the occupants of a particular seat. Disturbing, but people interest me.
 
I did the notebook thing for a good while. It was really fun, but a bit annoying to keep in your pocket at all times. It did really help me with jotting down ideas for characters, quirks, and set pieces for a novel I never wrote. I've had tons of them, but that's about the only one I used correctly.
 

Cyan

Banned
Scribble said:
I've tried the notebook thing. Once, I spent a train journey describing the occupants of a particular seat. Disturbing, but people interest me.
Dude... that's a little creepy. :lol

crowphoenix said:
I did the notebook thing for a good while. It was really fun, but a bit annoying to keep in your pocket at all times. It did really help me with jotting down ideas for characters, quirks, and set pieces for a novel I never wrote. I've had tons of them, but that's about the only one I used correctly.
I just stick it in my pocket with my wallet. No big deal.

So how come you never wrote the novel?
 
Cyan said:
I just stick it in my pocket with my wallet. No big deal.

That's... a damn good idea! I wish I had figured out such a thing sooner.
So how come you never wrote the novel?

That was around the time I 'gave up' writing about 3 or 4 years ago, due in part to my growing pessimism and falling out with the girl I was trying to see at the time (Hence, my first story). It was just a casualty of that time. And the only thing I remember are two of the characters: Ruby and Cyan.

It might do me good to go back and revisit it. That one had a lot of ideas that now seem a tad silly. However, Ruby loving jalapeno jellybeans is something I will never give up. It's too damn ridiculous not to be true.
 
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