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Werewolf |OT| Was it all just a Dream?
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CornBurrito
Member
I'm gonna legit laugh if Flux is scum this game.
StarSketch
Banned
That would be quite the plot twist.
I am indifferent. In this huge of a game double roles are certainly possible. But saying "oh yeah that matches my role" is obviously a super easy bluff.
For what it is worth I don't think I would've claimed had someone beaten me to it.
Xamtheking
Member
Maybe we should vote for who the Deputy should be, in order to help with the possibility of scum becoming Sheriff if said scum had been deputized.
Example:
Town votes for Person X to be deputized
If the Sheriff is scum, he would be forced to deputize Person X or make himself look suspicious
Just a thought
Example:
Town votes for Person X to be deputized
If the Sheriff is scum, he would be forced to deputize Person X or make himself look suspicious
Just a thought
CornBurrito
Member
I actually like that idea Xam.
There's nothing mysterious about me asking Bats for advice. He knows lots of stuff. It isn't me trying to fetch out reads. I don't fucking know if Ultron is lying still, nothing has changed. Xam could be lying, who knows. I really doubt it, just based on how new he is. If he is lying, holy fuck - this is going to be a great game. I agree with Rats, let's burn Ultron. Also, let's burn Rats. Let's just take the two of them out and you, and also Cornburrito. I'd bet the odds of burning a scum with that group is fairly high, a square of people acting completely ridiculous before most players have even said something.
CornBurrito
Member
I'm town Darryl, sorry. You are scum though. I really do think your acting different. So timid. Why are you so scared now to take charge?
This doesn't even look like it's trying to resemble an organic human conversation. Like a mafia robot is playing
Xamtheking
Member
I wonder what Darryl is like in the real world
CornBurrito
Member
Because you misunderstand. This isn't a conversation. This isn't a dialogue. This is me telling you outright that I believe you are scum. You're acting so incredibly different from when you were town that I don't believe for one second you have the same alignment. You're not town, that's for damn sure.
Here, let me make it clearer.
VOTE: Darryl
Aw, I hope that's not the case, that would be a real shame. Come play with us Flux!
I have no idea why but this made my laugh a LOT XD
I'm making an assumption here that you're calling Terra out because he made a big deal about the deputization process. But Zipped said something very similar:
So why no heat on Zipped?
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
The heat is because if he knew he was town, why would he not want it? He knows there is scum out there. It is a scum move to take a hands off "I don't want to nominate myself blah blah let him decide". This removes him from the stress of putting himself out there and in front of scrutiny. I didn't see Zipped pulling this so I didn't call him out on it.
Yeah. Despite having one of the more helpful power roles for Town as a Follower last time, I was nothing but a liability. Pretty much everyone I targeted ended up being Town, and I said so much dumb stuff that the Town, the Werewolves, and even the Serial Killer were after me.
So, taking the advice of what the others told me in the other thread, I'll rein it in and relax a bit more. There are so many seasoned players this time that I should be able to at least look at some of them for direction (well, unless they're all scum).
Xamtheking
Member
Once a day Sherif chooses a Deputy
If Sheriff dies, Deputy becomes new Sherrif
Is this an Ultimate Werewolf thing? Normally we don't go into Day 1 with assumptions about what roles exist.
Xamtheking
Member
I'm new
I don't know
CornBurrito
Member
Palmer outright said this role is in the game, and that Drop is the sheriff.
1. The current sheriff is announced to all the players
2. The sheriff has a double vote
3. The sheriff MUST choose a Deputy
CornBurrito
Member
Oh. And then deputy is sheriff on Day 2?
Check out this post.
So we started the day knowing Drop's alignment and role, probably because he's everyone's favorite prosecutor.
Xamtheking
Member
I don't even want that kind of responsibility
Well, if I die, yes.
While I'll address some posts later for now I'll just drop a quick question.
Do you guys think the Sheriff role will be useful to us in the long run or will it end up benefitting the wolves more? Keep in mind that they have a way to manipulate the choice, as others have pointed out.
This is directed to everyone, it might have an impact on my decision.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
It will be useful to us as long as you're still around. After that, I fear it will only breed confusion and paranoia.
Also, as an aside, you basically have the same name as my One True Partner from a previous game and it's really messing with my head.
I don't like sitting without a vote on someone. Aggressively pushing is such a dramatic retelling of what this actually is, I gave a hearty chuckle which woke up the entire office. Showboaty enough for you?
I voted him for a reason, it wasn't random. That is that. I find Terra adding to my vote interesting, though not particularly scummy. Now we move onto the classic prod.
VOTE: FluxWaveZ
Yeah the loudmouth last game is now suspiciously......mutemouth. I know he initiated regret at being in the limelight, but going the complete opposite way seems maybe a little too much. Give us your thoughts on the current happy haps.
I didn't realize the sheriff thing was legit, I thought that was an example PM. Goddamn it, Palmer. You're so nonchalant sometimes. Should've posted that shit along with the game beginning, to make it clear.
Has Day 1 even begun?!
I would be surprised if scum would kill Drop so early, considering we're at such a high number that his double vote shouldn't be particularly powerful right now, but it will definitely become more of a hot potato issue as we get smaller as a group.
The big worry I have in these stages is what happens if you deputize PRs? You're essentially giving them a solid chance of death.
The sleepwalkers seem like a good choice, though that of course relies on everyone believing they're telling the truth.
The big worry I have in these stages is what happens if you deputize PRs? You're essentially giving them a solid chance of death.
The sleepwalkers seem like a good choice, though that of course relies on everyone believing they're telling the truth.
Lollipop Dave
Member
I'd volunteer to be Deputy but I just love working in my humble bakery too darn much.
As for suspicions, there hasn't been much in the way of rumours and hearsay from the old dears in a whiles, but Thursday evenings get real busy in here. I'll let you folk know later if I hear anything.
As for suspicions, there hasn't been much in the way of rumours and hearsay from the old dears in a whiles, but Thursday evenings get real busy in here. I'll let you folk know later if I hear anything.
Fixed so it didn't sound insane.
you've posted more fluff than the epic hair in your avatar.
It's different from the last game, I'm just determining if it's still-scum Dave trying to change up his play or un-scum Dave going full on character play.
Mostly ok, but I find the bolded confusing - isn't that we're supposed to be doing?
By naming me and CornBro you've attacked everyone that has questioned or accused you so far. That much is "consistent" at least, but can you explain what either of us have done that was ridiculous?
Regarding the Sherriff, I feel that the double vote is likely to do more harm than good. It's worth relatively little at this early stage of the game, but will be very dangerous later if scum take control of it and hit us with a surprise mylo/lylo/loss.
We 'could' insist that deputies are chosen by a vote rather than at the Sherriff's discretion. The downside is that can also be manipulated by scum as they have more votes than any individual townie, but the upside is that this gives us another set of votes to analyse (and that wolves have some need to be voting for each other).
Alternatively we could lynch a Sherriff mid game? Palmer what happens if a Sherriff is lynched before naming a deputy?
None of this applies to the current Sherriff by the way. A confirmed town can certainly make their own decisions. (Especially that second point. I am 100% against lynching a confirmed town for any reason)
We 'could' insist that deputies are chosen by a vote rather than at the Sherriff's discretion. The downside is that can also be manipulated by scum as they have more votes than any individual townie, but the upside is that this gives us another set of votes to analyse (and that wolves have some need to be voting for each other).
Alternatively we could lynch a Sherriff mid game? Palmer what happens if a Sherriff is lynched before naming a deputy?
None of this applies to the current Sherriff by the way. A confirmed town can certainly make their own decisions. (Especially that second point. I am 100% against lynching a confirmed town for any reason)
I'm weary of people asking to be nominees for deputy. In my opinion, it should be judged by quality of play, not as a small group of players. I also agree with Xam, democratic vote can be manipulated like Splinter says, but it's probably the least likely method to be tainted. Townies can be bad at reads, that's a known fact, so relying purely on Drop has a margin of error.
The vote could also be analysed, so not particularly on scumminess, I'd say it'd be a better measure of effective town reads from most players that get involved.
How hard do we force voting for deputy? do we actually go after people who don't take part?
Why did you feel the need to point out you're new? That wasn't really necessary, a simple "I don't know" would have been more than enough.
It really stands out in such a short phrase.
I thought it was unnecessary, I'm just taking note of whoever asks.
Now I have a question, what would fishing a reaction from me accomplish?
I would really like to know Flux's thoughts on the situation, I don't think he played bad last game, the townies he accused were acting suspicious, almost trying to get lynched, his error was to attract too much attention, losing such a valuable player soon would have been a problem.
I really think his opinion could be helpful.
Also I've noticed some players posted multiple times without ever saying anything relevant, I'd like to hear your thoughts Style, Lollipop Dave and GreatLord Tiger.
Lollipop Dave
Member
I was trying to get reads on Ultron and whether his claim was ridiculous. You're ridiculous because you keep asking me stupid questions, multiple at a time. Then asking me questions about those questions. And you did it unprompted right out of the gate. There's 25+ players here. You can catch someone saying something a little bit slimy first, rather than simply not saying much. If I was scum, you think I'd get all nervous and trip up over this unfounded questioning? I don't believe for a second that you believe in yourself with these questions or that you intend to find scum like this. This is all in itself scummy as you're actively wasting everyone's time. I was calling CB ridiculous for calling me scum based on my few responses so far. It was the day before Thanksgiving. I was doing stuff with the family and didn't have time for lengthy posts, it isn't that big of an enigma. Although now he's shown himself to be actively scummy with his overthought yet casual attitude, which doesn't seem natural for someone town.
To the bolded: no, but just because I don't expect you to trip over questions easily doesn't mean I shouldn't bother questioning you in the first place.
I don't expect such bland questions to instantly lead to scum, but I'll keep asking them (to everyone) just to see what happens - I need things to happen so I can see how people react. Literally anything is better than nothing/fluff/RNG which is the usual start of game order of business. (Admittedly I suck at pulling something out of nothing - that's part of why you'll never see me chasing the inactive a).
If I read your post correctly, my questioning of you has already (indirectly) lead to your early scum read of CornBro, so I reject the idea that I'm "wasting time"
Also just to clarify, I haven't accused Darryl yet, or given any opinion for that matter. I want to ping a few more people before I give my reads.
Speaking of which,
KingKitty
I know you support blood for the blood God, but (as of now) who's? And why?
It could work either way with the sheriff/deputy angle. We could actually luck out and, if the sheriff were to die and the deputy had a role that benefitted the town greatly and became sheriff that would make the game for the town side a lot easier.
Starting Sheriff could be scum right? Not accusing you Drop, just asking generally
CrimsonFist
Member
Starting Sheriff is 100% confirmed village
I don't really know what this is, is he disregarding the claims altogether and going to ignore them, or is he saying that he believes its a scum move?
Overstates my vote on Splinter, suspicious in itself.
The post containing the PM was posted on this page, and Splinter and I have both specifically mentioned it confirms Drop's alignment as town.
Also his logic here is weird, the wording suggests it would be a good thing if a pro-town PR was made sheriff, but if anything it may put them in more danger because they have double vote and the eyes of scum on them.
Boo Boo'n is currently setting off quite a few red flags.