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Digital Foundry: Lawbreakers PS4/Pro vs PC Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test
- Thread starter Theorry
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hikarutilmitt
Member
I'm kind of glad they gave it a day or two to bake and let them (really quickly) fix the hitching in the PS4 version. It sucks it was there and it was clearly a bug that crept even after the beta (admittedly so) but giving them a chance to fix crap really fast after launch is more than fair.
Huh?
Didn't the PS Blog post state 4K, not 1404p?
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...s-sacrifice-lawbreakers-dreadnought-and-more/
Didn't the PS Blog post state 4K, not 1404p?
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...s-sacrifice-lawbreakers-dreadnought-and-more/
Like explained in the vid. Thats not the only thing the blog post "got wrong"
One could call it lying...
A real shame about the the performance on the regular PS4. You'd think UE4 should be little more scalable. Was a dynamic resolution not an option?
mullet2000
Member
Kinda a bummer that 900p is becoming more and more normalized on OG PS4 since the introduction of the Pro. I was worried that that was going to happen when it was announced.
theangrypirate
Member
It was normal to see 900p on ps4 before pro arrived.
It's not been uncommon for 60fps titles ever since launch.
Dictator93
Member
IMO, resolution disparity between pro and ps4 suggests that lower framerates (30fps) on reg ps4 probably have to do with mem bandwidth and/or CPU.
I'd suggest there are CPU issues at play too.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
For most games, though? I remember 1080p (unless my memory fails me). 900p was usually for most Xbox One multiplats, however.
They dress it up as giving all the bells and whistles, but DF were hard-pressed to find any difference from base PS4 other than 900p vs. 1080p and a more consistent 60fps.
funkystudent
Member
Its not that normal. I think there is probably around 10 of them.
But its totally the norm for 60fps UE4 games. Street Fighter, Tekken, Paragon and now this. Its just nice it seems Unreal supports 60fps on console now since last gen devs had to really butcher UE3 to get there.
Ps4 wasn't exactly state of the art when it was release 4 years ago. For a game that is pushing 60fps, this is pretty much expected.
Is not normalized like you said, most games are 1080p on base ps4, it really depends wich type of game. Anyway, when performance is a priority, resolution come last.
1080/60 really isn't that common on PS4. Even Naughty Dog settled on 900p to get Uncharted 4 multiplayer running at (mostly) 60fps.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Summary for those at work etc.
- Built on UE4 and is 'obscenely fast'
- Stuttering issues at launch are largely fixed after a patch.
- Not perfect but regularity and severity of stuttering is reduced.
Visuals:
- OG PS4: 900p
- PS4 Pro: 1404p with otherwise same visual settings as OG PS4.
- Pro on 1080p gives a native 1080p image, doesn't do full down-sampling from 1404p.
- At 1080p, Pro still runs at same visual settings, doesn't offer any enhancements in any visual effects. Shading/Occlusion etc are still a match for for OG PS4 and Pro at 4K mode.
- PC on Ultra settings offers clear advantages in occlusion/shading etc.
Performance:
- OG PS4 has clear FPS drops in contested areas to 30 FPS with full-screen tearing.
- Indoor/corridor areas run at 60 FPS most (all) of the time.
- Pro @1080p runs at a solid 60 FPS.
- Pro at 1404p, 60 FPS is still maintained very consistently.
- Both Pro versions offer smoother game play during hectic scenarios and may offer an advantage to Pro players.
- Built on UE4 and is 'obscenely fast'
- Stuttering issues at launch are largely fixed after a patch.
- Not perfect but regularity and severity of stuttering is reduced.
Visuals:
- OG PS4: 900p
- PS4 Pro: 1404p with otherwise same visual settings as OG PS4.
- Pro on 1080p gives a native 1080p image, doesn't do full down-sampling from 1404p.
- At 1080p, Pro still runs at same visual settings, doesn't offer any enhancements in any visual effects. Shading/Occlusion etc are still a match for for OG PS4 and Pro at 4K mode.
- PC on Ultra settings offers clear advantages in occlusion/shading etc.
Performance:
- OG PS4 has clear FPS drops in contested areas to 30 FPS with full-screen tearing.
- Indoor/corridor areas run at 60 FPS most (all) of the time.
- Pro @1080p runs at a solid 60 FPS.
- Pro at 1404p, 60 FPS is still maintained very consistently.
- Both Pro versions offer smoother game play during hectic scenarios and may offer an advantage to Pro players.
OdysseusVA
Banned
It would be shitty of them if they lied and had no intentions fulfilling that list. I wonder if they simply were limited on time/resources and plan on delivering on those improvements described on the PS blog at a later time.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
1080p/60, no. I thought he was just talking 1080p on its won.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
So cliffy can't play his game on ps4
Saving resources.
Why would he? He can afford a platform with more performance.
That's the best way to play on Ps4 then.
Thats a Greay Area
Member
Interesting watching this video compared to the misinformation on the official PS blog earlier this week.
Glad to see a steady framerate on Pro though.
Glad to see a steady framerate on Pro though.
Set your PS4 to 720p. It's now downsampling your 900p/1080p games to 720p.
Where's the performance issue?
I don't know? Ask DF.
But take it this game has a performance mode and a quality mode.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
I just found out about this thread and analysis now. Weird though. I was expecting them to fulfill their promise especially with a studio working close with Epic. I noticed when playing the Beta that the PC on Ultra is filled with reflections and SSR while the PS4 Pro version lacks most of it.
I was also surprised to see that even Fortnite was promised to get the maxed out version on PS4 Pro (like Paragon) but according to DF it is very similar to base PS4.
What happened to Fortnite? Did they add the features they promised on PS4 Pro?
If they did then expect Lawbreakers to do the same soon.
I was also surprised to see that even Fortnite was promised to get the maxed out version on PS4 Pro (like Paragon) but according to DF it is very similar to base PS4.
What happened to Fortnite? Did they add the features they promised on PS4 Pro?
If they did then expect Lawbreakers to do the same soon.