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Lonely1 · Sep 16, 2012

artist said:
27% behind the supposed iPhone 5 result.

The Exynos 4210 is a early to mid 2011 CPU. Look, I'm not disputing that the A6 is now the fastest mobile SoC. But just stating that the competition isn't that far off, like the OG message I quoted was saying.

Now, the GPU department? The A6 should be comfortably in the lead.

Tobor · Sep 16, 2012

Synth_floyd said:
I wonder if the next iPad will have the same A6 that's in the iPhone 5 or will have an A6X with additional GPU power in it.

I'd bet on an A6X.

LCfiner · Sep 16, 2012

rozay said:
That efficiency wasn't enough for iPad 1 owners though. I'm really glad most of my friends waited until the 2nd gen to buy one.

Yeah, 256 MB just wasn't enough once multitasking APIs came to iOS (after all, iPad launched with no multitasking in iOS 3).

512 MB would have helped with new iOS revisions. I think that Apple was legitimately worried that the iPad wouldn't hit it big so they were too conservative with RAM in the first model.

Horse Armour · Sep 16, 2012

Lonely1 said:
The Exynos 4210 is a early to mid 2011 CPU. Look, I'm not disputing that the A6 is now the fastest mobile SoC. But just stating that the competition isn't that far off, like the OG message I quoted was saying.

Now, the GPU department? The A6 should be comfortably in the lead.

That Galaxy Note score is pretty odd, it's much higher than you'd expect, you sure you didn't use the Note 2?

Axalon · Sep 16, 2012

Haha, apples have cores.

planar1280 · Sep 16, 2012

What is more impressive is that they were able to get a battery performance as good on the thinnest smartphone with that much cpu power

rozay · Sep 16, 2012

-Pyromaniac- said:
yeah but

awwwshitt

Yes? That was the point of my post. Plenty of people complained that the 256mb of ram would be an issue in the future when the device launched, and look how useful it is now. Even the iPhone 4 got 512mb of ram. Especially with the higher resolutions of the retina ipad and now iPhone 5, it's going to be absolutely necessary to have 1GB for the content inside apps.

Going back, I didn't word that previous post very well, sorry.

freenudemacusers · Sep 16, 2012

planar1280 said:
What is more impressive is that they were able to get a battery performance as good on the thinnest smartphone with that much cpu power

plus all those world class exclusive apps

man the iphone 5* is amazing

*with the all new cord

edit: wait my 4 has 512 megs of ram? peasant status :/

Messypandas · Sep 16, 2012

For unpublishable reasons

oh the drama

Lonely1 · Sep 16, 2012

Horse Armour said:
That Galaxy Note score is pretty odd, it's much higher than you'd expect, you sure you didn't use the Note 2?

I wish I had a Note 2.

. The results come from the Geekbench page.

Slurpy2k20 · Sep 16, 2012

Pretty insane improvement. Especially considering the 4S is still bloody fast in real world use.

planar1280 · Sep 16, 2012

Paradoxal_Utopia said:
Pretty insane improvement. Especially considering the 4S is still bloody fast in real world use.

No wonder they said camera is better because of A6

Recon · Sep 16, 2012

solarus said:
Eh, it's more interesting and worthwhile than the several junk threads that came up after the iphone 5 announcement.

Which coincidentally the OP also created.

planar1280 · Sep 16, 2012

To be fair

This is on an S3 running jellybean

Technosteve · Sep 16, 2012

oh shit, the sadsung galaxy 3 has more numbers.

reKon · Sep 16, 2012

I got a score of 1223 on a Gnex running jellybean

noah111 · Sep 17, 2012

EviLore said:
Do not do this. You are not a moderator. Thread shitting gets you banned for a long time for a reason.

If a thread is not interesting or relevant to you, do not post in it. Let it sink, which it will do in a matter of seconds if other people feel the same way, which allows for a self regulating environment. By placing so much emphasis on a thread being "good enough" you make people scared of posting new threads and everything just gets shunted into an awkward enormous megathread that a dozen hardcore people follow and use as a chatroom, where if you click randomly as a casual follower you'll usually get nothing of relevance out of.

For what it's worth this topic is actually interesting/relevant to me, so I didn't mean to backseat or threadshit. Just felt there's been a weird amount of Apple topics lately and the discussions are feeling a bit fragmented. But I suppose that's normal given the announcements are still settling in. You're right that the non-pertinent threads definitely have a way of moderating themselves, which i've noticed lately with a few threads that've plummeted on their own. Mybad duder.

Bitmap Frogs said:
Too bad Jobs is gone, he always dreamed of having in-house silicon.

With or without Jobs, I think that's an inevitably. Speaking to samsung specifically though, aren't they depending on them less and less lately?

LCfiner · Sep 17, 2012

planar1280 said:
To be fair

This is on an S3 running jellybean

well, it was fun while it lasted.

Lonely1 · Sep 17, 2012

Is still a massive upgrade over the 4S which I suspect is what people looking to upgrade are more concerned about. Also, maybe the the iPad 3 will gain some performance after an upgrade to iOS 6.

rozay · Sep 17, 2012

planar1280 said:
To be fair

This is on an S3 running jellybean

gtfo android fanboy

out of curiousity, what's the result on an american GS3 with the snapdragon S4? edit 2:1684

edit: fucking lol'd at this guy in macrumors

AGAIN: true, principled Apple users have iPhones. Android is for those who don't value innovation - or quality, for that matter.

True Mac users do NOT use Android nor develop for it.

I'm glad we can have discussions on this board without shit like this.

Yoshiya · Sep 17, 2012

planar1280 said:
To be fair

This is on an S3 running jellybean

Still far better to have higher performance and reduced parallelism. Desktop OS still barely use four threads efficiently.

Timedog · Sep 17, 2012

Stephen Colbert said:
Yes they are. They're also higher than the scores for any Andriod phone or tablet out there. The cpu was custom build by Apple and iOS 6 was designed around these specific customizations. I don't expect anyone to be able to catch up anytime soon.

You don't expect anyone to catch up to a 1-4% benchmark difference anytime soon?

Ken Masters · Sep 17, 2012

how did they get their hands on an iPhone 5 so early? before any media outlet

LCfiner · Sep 17, 2012

Ken Masters said:
how did they get their hands on an iPhone 5 so early? before any media outlet

we don't know who has it. the results are anonymous. this could be someone who got a review unit running the benchmark and the results got uploaded to the site like all other results. Probably a bit of a goof to let the results get uploaded if the person is serious about the NDA for a review unit.

or it could be fake. we'll find out when the reviews come out next week.

giga · Sep 17, 2012

planar1280 said:
To be fair

This is on an S3 running jellybean

I explained this earlier, but to reiterate, Geekbench is a multithreaded, synthetic benchmark that will heavily favor chips that have multiple cores or the ability to multithread simultaneously (like Intel's hyperthreading). Scroll down into the specific tests it runs and you'll see both single core and multi core scalar tests.

Chips like the Tegra 3 or Exynos 4412 will benefit from this. So for me, what was impressive about the score was that it was on just two cores running at 1ghz. The HTC One S with the MSM8960 (dual core) at 1.5ghz manages a similar score to this supposed A6 score.

VanWinkle · Sep 17, 2012

giga said:
I explained this earlier, but to reiterate, Geekbench is a multithreaded, synthetic benchmark that will heavily favor chips that have multiple cores or the ability to multithread simultaneously (like Intel's hyperthreading). Scroll down into the specific tests it runs and you'll see both single core and multi core scalar tests.

Chips like the Tegra 3 or Exynos 4412 will benefit from this. So for me, what was impressive about the score was that it was on just two cores running at 1ghz. The HTC One S with the MSM8960 (dual core) at 1.5ghz manages a similar score to this supposed A6 score.

Well the guy a few posts above this linked to the geekbench benchmark for the American Galaxy S3 (unless I read that wrong) and it got 1684.

giga · Sep 17, 2012

VanWinkle said:
Well the guy a few posts above this linked to the geekbench benchmark for the American Galaxy S3 (unless I read that wrong) and it got 1684.

Running at 1.4ghz.

VanWinkle · Sep 17, 2012

giga said:
Running at 1.4ghz.

Right, right. I'm not trying to downplay the great score that iPhone 5 got, but the S3 still just has two cores compared to the international 4-core model, and the American one seemed to have the better score (which seems weird).

The Faceless Master · Sep 17, 2012

giga said:
Running at 1.4ghz.

damn, it scored that high when it was underclocked?

giga · Sep 17, 2012

VanWinkle said:
Right, right. I'm not trying to downplay the great score that iPhone 5 got, but the S3 still just has two cores compared to the international 4-core model, and the American one seemed to have the better score (which seems weird).

American S3 got Qualcomm'd. Krait > A9.

Victory Red · Sep 17, 2012

EightBitNate said:
What would an iPhone even need 1gb ram for? Never owned a 4S, does it stutter or lag often?

Not at all.

But deep under the hood the 4S is significantly faster than the 4. Some games, Jurassic Park Builder for example, stutter a ton during their play but the 4S runs them flawlessly.

For this phone to be significantly faster than the 4S is just bananas.

planar1280 · Sep 17, 2012

rozay said:
gtfo android fanboy

out of curiousity, what's the result on an american GS3 with the snapdragon S4? edit 2:1684

edit: fucking lol'd at this guy in macrumors
I'm glad we can have discussions on this board without shit like this.

You should look at my post history before calling me an Android fanboy lol

Regardless of scor, the fact that 5 score is more than ipad 3 and 4s combined on a closed tightly managed OS, Games and apps are about to get insanely good graphics/performance wise

Diprosalic · Sep 17, 2012

planar1280 said:
To be fair

This is on an S3 running jellybean

S3 superior confirmed?

EviLore · Sep 17, 2012

rozay said:
gtfo android fanboy

out of curiousity, what's the result on an american GS3 with the snapdragon S4? edit 2:1684

edit: fucking lol'd at this guy in macrumors
I'm glad we can have discussions on this board without shit like this.

Fucking lol'd at you getting permed, too. Spare us the pubescent fanboy drivel and have a modicum of civility.

Blackhead · Sep 17, 2012

EviLore said:
Fucking lol'd at you getting permed, too. Spare us the pubescent fanboy drivel and have a modicum of civility.

I think rozay was making a joke when referring to planar1280 as an android fanboy. planar1280 has generally been making posts in favor of apple in these iphone5 threads and it's somewhat ironic that he would be the first to find a benchmark that shows the GS III in a favourable light...

Ollie Pooch · Sep 17, 2012

Lol, he got banned? He was clearly joking!

Messypandas · Sep 17, 2012

Evil giveth and evil taketh awaeth

-COOLIO- · Sep 17, 2012

rozay was probably joking, the 2nd half of his post mocks a diehard apple fanatic

Dany · Sep 17, 2012

5 is higher than III (I"s aren't even numbers!)

Another reason why apple is 2 steps ahead of Samsung.

reKon · Sep 17, 2012

Haha, rozay was joking around..

nib95 · Sep 17, 2012

Just be happy people. Friggin phones with smoother OS's than fully fledged laptops. I find it strange my Galaxy S3 is actually smoother in transitions and general usability than my new spec'd up Macbook Pro Retina....

Cipherr · Sep 17, 2012

Thats unfortunate for Rozay, he should have spoilered a sarcasm tag to make sure everyone knew it was a joke

IrrelevantNotch · Sep 17, 2012

fucking lol

noah111 · Sep 17, 2012

Didn't realize he was joking but I didn't think anyone used phrases like 'gtfo' and 'fanboy' in OT for this very reason, basically a one way ticket.

reKon · Sep 17, 2012

nib95 said:
Just be happy people. Friggin phones with smoother OS's than fully fledged laptops. I find it strange my Galaxy S3 is actually smoother in transitions and general usability than my new spec'd up Macbook Pro Retina....

I find it strange that I'm in cell phone heaven with phone that has been out spec'd in every way.

VWZ Galaxy Nexus running Codename Android ROM 3.5 + Lean kernel 4.3 = Near perfection

I don't know what lag means anymore. With general use, everything is smoother than butter. I could run live wallpapers with no FPS slow down. If this had a Razr MAXX type of battery and a better camera, this phone would have been hard to turn down for anyone. I would have included having better radios, but my Nexus always seems to have good connection and I rarely have dropped calls.

It's still crazy how efficient iOS continues to be and I hope that future Android versions makes great strives in catching up. I'm glad that jellybean is as smooth as it is though.

Zeth · Sep 17, 2012

Was this not related to relentless trolling in the main iPhone 5 thread?

Rebel Leader · Sep 17, 2012

Sentry said:
Didn't realize he was joking but I didn't think anyone used phrases like 'gtfo' and 'fanboy' in OT for this very reason, basically a one way ticket.

But but... the 2nd part of the post T_T

nib95 · Sep 17, 2012

reKon said:
I find it strange that I'm in cell phone heaven with phone that has been out spec'd in every way.

VWZ Galaxy Nexus running Codename Android ROM 3.5 + Lean kernel 4.3 = Near perfection

I don't know what lag means anymore. With general use, everything is smoother than butter. I could run live wallpapers with no FPS slow down. If this had a Razr MAXX type of battery and a better camera, this phone would have been hard to turn down for anyone. I would have included having better radios, but my Nexus always seems to have good connection and I rarely have dropped calls.

It's still crazy how efficient iOS continues to be and I hope that future Android versions makes great strives in catching up. I'm glad that jellybean is as smooth as it is though.

To be fair, my S3 running on the latest update of ICS is smooth as butter. My 4S is as well tbh. People say the S3 is even smoother on Jelly Bean, but at this point I'm kind of trying to work out how much smoother these things can get. I guess in gallery when you have tonnes of images etc they can stutter now and again etc, but it's still momentary followed by great speed and smoothness.

Phone tech has really made strides in the last few years. Fact that Google Maps and Navigation is better on the latest Android devices compared to stand-alone Tom Tom or the in-built navigation on a BMW 7 series or Jaguar XJ etc sort of blows my mind too.

jet1911 · Sep 17, 2012

Paradoxal_Utopia said:
Pretty insane improvement. Especially considering the 4S is still bloody fast in real world use.

Man I can't wait to throw my 3GS in the trash.

kehs · Sep 17, 2012

The fuck? Rozay permed over an obvious joke?

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