If this happened to me and they didn't restore my points, rage mode = on!Aptos said:I'm going to be so pissed if I have to wait for 25 business days for this to get resolved and they don't refund my points.
Muchi Muchi Pink said:So, you just forgot the big psn hack, where sony didn't tell anybody for more than 2 weeks, right?
Tomasooie said:Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, because MS PR always reveals all...they would never try to hide a huge problem currently affecting an increasing number of users. Look at your damn tag. What is wrong with you?
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...1#comments-bar
The community manager at Activision had his account hacked, as well as others in the industry. Element here on GAF, who used to work for Microsoft, had his account hacked with no idea how it happened.
In fact, a lot of the victims have said that they practice safe computer security (complex passwords, never opening untrusted sites/emails). Some have even said that they've never even used their Windows Live ID on anything other than the Xbox itself.
It is NOT phishing. There's definitely something different about this series of hacks. I'm guessing account details were hacked and leaked/sold. I don't think it has much to do with FIFA or EA. That must just be an endpoint that has spread amongst the account thieves because of how easy it is to just sell the FIFA content for real money on eBay (or other sites).
Kyoufu said:Wait, update: Friend says his passwords for the EA account and XBL account are not the same.
Is it still EA's fault?
Speedymanic said:I sure believe him.
Surprising how he can remember seeing as he haan't turned on or used his console for months.
Jeez you're out to get people.Speedymanic said:I sure believe him.
Surprising how he can remember seeing as he haan't turned on or used his console for months.
My thoughts exactly.Speedymanic said:I sure believe him.
Surprising how he can remember seeing as he haan't turned on or used his console for months.
~ six/seven (8 at max) days is "more than 2 weeks" now?Muchi Muchi Pink said:So, you just forgot the big psn hack, where sony didn't tell anybody for more than 2 weeks, right?
Risk Breaker said:I would just ignore him if I were you, he's been spamming every single thread related to these Xbox Live account hacks, trying to spread this bullshit about EA games making everyone suddenly get hacked and stolen.
He doesn't understand that the reason FIFA causes this hacks is because you can easily get real money for MSP because FIFA players demand it a pay real money for cheaper MSP.
His tag should make things clear too.
Speedymanic said:The claim I'm making is that ea at fault, not ms. Learn to read.
It didnt take 2 weeks before they told about the hack, if that is what you mean? PSN went down April 20th. On April 22th, Sony said that there had been an external intrusion into their system. On April 26th they said that accounts and all that might have been compromised. So it took about 2 days before they mentioned about the hack itself and less than a week before they told what the hackers might have had access to.Muchi Muchi Pink said:So, you just forgot the big psn hack, where sony didn't tell anybody for more than 2 weeks, right?
Then explain this.Speedymanic said:I'm sorry, what? Of course I understand why FIFA is being targeted. To claim I don't is just silly. The claim I'm making is that ea at fault, not ms. Learn to read.
It's not "the most obvious clue". Like I've said twice before already: ONCE THE THIEF HAS THE ACCOUNT HE CAN BUY ANYTHING. He's not obligated to spend all his hard-earned stolen money on FIFA. The sole reason for it is because it's quick and easy to transfer the content (by trading in-game) between accounts, and then to sell them for real money, all without much chance of being apprehended.Speedymanic said:Why are you dismissing the most obvious clue? How aren't EA or FIFA to blame? What are people buying with their illegally accessed accounts? Did you even read the comments on that site? Do you not see how easy it is for someone to engineer EA live to access others details?
Your willingness to let EA off the hook is baffling.
Futureman said:I thought your claim was that we don't know enough, so we shouldn't blindly blame MS?
Your claim is now that it's "EA's fault, not MS, PERIOD" ???
test_account said:That is a bit different. This is about if hashed and un-salted passwords are protected from reverse engineering.
Speedymanic said:I'm sorry, what? Of course I understand why FIFA is being targeted. To claim I don't is just silly. The claim I'm making is that ea at fault, not ms. Learn to read.
Go back and look. I hope both companies get hit by a truck. The same goes for most major videogame publishers and console manufacturers, BTW.Speedymanic said:And in every thread, you along with cgcg tend to point the finger at MS and only MS.
Tomasooie said:Then explain this.
It's not "the most obvious clue". Like I've said twice before already: ONCE THE THIEF HAS THE ACCOUNT HE CAN BUY ANYTHING. He's not obligated to spend all his hard-earned stolen money on FIFA. The sole reason for it is because it's quick and easy to transfer the content (by trading in-game) between accounts, and then to sell them for real money, all without much chance of being apprehended.
That's the only reason FIFA is chosen. It's not a damn clue.
:lol nice tagSpeedymanic said:Evidence points to ea. I've said that from the beginning. (almost)
That is true, if it is only about saying that the password is secure/advance, but that the password was used multiply places, then i agree. But in this case with XBL, i'm pretty sure people have said that they used an advanced password and only used the password on XBL. Then the hashed password stuff wouldnt be the case right there, unless someone hacked the XBL database.sangreal said:No, you're missing my point. While it is true that we were discussing in that thread a leaked database of hashed passwords, my point is about the user's anecdote that his password was not simple. To the point that it couldn't even be brute forced. It was, in fact, very simple. So people saying they have a really secure password and that they don't use it anywhere else falls flat to me.
Jesus H. Christ, you're impossible. Do you even know the meaning of "semantics"? You're just backpedaling. You claimed FIFA, as a clue, put the blame on EA.Speedymanic said:Semantics. EA/FIFA, its all the same. The point stop stands, evidence points to EA.
Kyoufu said:This can't be EA related, since my friend changed his password over a month ago
http://i.imgur.com/psisu.jpg
I hate EA more than anyone but I fail to see how this is their fault. *shrug*
Probably a good idea. I usually don't get strung along like this.neutralgamer02 said:Edit: Also, I wouldn't feed the troll.
BigNastyCurve said:This started well over a month ago. If he changed his password since then what does that matter? They already have his old password. The relevant question is did he change his xbl password recently?
Risk Breaker said:I would just ignore him if I were you, he's been spamming every single thread related to these Xbox Live account hacks, trying to spread this bullshit about EA games making everyone suddenly get hacked and stolen.
He doesn't understand that the reason FIFA causes this hacks is because you can easily get real money for MSP because FIFA players demand it a pay real money for cheaper MSP.
His tag should make things clear too.
Yeah, I'm done with that. Whatever. It's astounding that someone can be so dense.neutralgamer02 said:Edit: Also, I wouldn't feed the troll.
inky said:More like Sony got breached, Microsoft didn't.
Tomasooie said:Jesus H. Christ, you're impossible. Do you even know the meaning of "semantics"? You're just backpedaling. You claimed FIFA, as a clue, put the blame on EA.
First of all, they're not the same thing. Secondly, I disproved your claim, so what evidence are you talking about? It's not FIFA, so link us to what you mean.
FIFA is the endpoint, not the means. We have absolutely no insight as to what's causing this.Speedymanic said:Do you? You're getting too caught up on a single claim and not looking at it as a whole . EA are to blame, FIFA is also to blame as they haven't taken steps to make sure this doesn't happen. You've disproved nothing, you've focussed on one part of my entire post in some vain attempt to be 'right'.
Troll? How utterly ridiculous.
Someone could of got his password before change. Then when it was changed either they entered something similar or bruteforced.Kyoufu said:His password for XBL changed around the time of Gears 3 beta.
Yea, it's all a load of shit. Robbing us of the ability to turn off auto-renew from the site was a step in the wrong direction and I hope it bites them in the ass somehow.Sixfortyfive said:I removed my credit card from my account last week when it seemed these threads were steadily becoming more frequent. It would be a no-brainer for everyone else to do the same if it wasn't for the fact that actually removing your card is no easy feat without first disabling auto-renewal for Gold... which is also a headache in and of itself.
Great system.
EA added a daily limit on how many packs you can open.Tomasooie said:Since this is occurring on EA's game, they should definitely do something about it
Well it's good that they've done something, but it still didn't stop the guy who got my account a few days ago from doing this:Ardenyal said:EA added a daily limit on how many packs you can open.
But if login info has leaked through an EA site then why hasn't MS responded in any way. Forcing password change would stop the "hacks" right then and there if it's a problem with passwords being same on EA accounts as XBL accounts.
Tomasooie said:Well it's good that they've done something, but it still didn't stop the guy who got my account a few days ago from doing this:
And my Live ID password isn't the same as my EA password. It's completely unique.
no,i think it's because that mode it's crazy popular here in europe and if you manage to get good players or tons of "in-game credits" you can sell them for real moneyRapstah said:Is the reason that these hacks always involve FIFA that that's a way of indirectly gifting points between unrelated accounts?
Exactly what happened to me, except I caught it as it happened. Try requesting a password reset email, change your password, then recover your account with the new password.Garcia el Gringo said:So I just found out that my account was hacked a few hours ago. Over 4,000 points spent on Fifa shit and now Fifa is on my played games list with two achievements. Not very happy about that. I'm recovering my account on my 360 right now. I'm really not looking forward to dealing with Xbox support and (and what sounds like) the investigation that locks you out of your account. Hopefully I can get all my Microsoft Points back, fucking Fifa off of my played games list and some sort of compensation swiftly.
And now it seems like my account won't recover...
If you have a US account, you can do this to remove your cc without arguing with a person.U2NUMB said:Annoying stuff that no one should have to do.
U2NUMB said:I of course told them this is crazy.. he went and confirmed that they could turn off Auto renew with no issues BUT that the credit card HAS to stay there.
It's been said in dozens of previous threads, but that does not work in most places in the US.luxarific said:If you have a US account, you can do this to remove your cc without arguing with a person.
http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com...xbox-live-auto-renew-without-calling-support/