darkpaladinmfc
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The Youtube video goes up to '720p' which is roughly what the game renders at any ways, then you get Youtube compression. YT also can't display 60fps any ways.
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Dark Souls PC post-embargo impressions [30fps, locked 1024x720 internal framebuffer]
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Thank you. These games made game-play sacrifices. Dumbing down the game to appeal to a larger audience. Removing features that the predecessors had. Changing game-play to focus on grinding unlocks instead of skill. But the graphics were nice.
I enjoy the cognitive dissonance that if you play the exact same game, it can be considered absolute shit on PC but a masterpiece on PS3.
Krappadizzle
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So a person who admittedly doesn't have a PC is telling us we should enjoy it as is and deal with it? I have the game. I've beat it, I wanted it better than the 360 version, this is not that. Again, no one is arguing that the gameplay is bad, no one. We are saying that the fundamental options inherent in almost all PC games are not given and that it's bullshit.
True, but console Dark Souls wasn't 30FPS either most of the time.
It is still better than the console versions, just not by a lot.
There are plenty of people saying the game is not worth playing like this. If it is not worth playing on PC then it is not worth playing on console.
TimeEffect
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Yup! I will always appreciate PC gamers' resiliency towards being given minimalistic features, but you guys have been fucked hard this gen in terms of gameplay. I can't imagine how you could complain about Dark Souls' graphics when the gameplay is some of the best of this generation (in terms of the raw combat, co-op, and boss battles)
I hope you guys get the chance to play it, whether on consoles or PC, I truly do think these developers are a shining beacon in an otherwise sea of mediocrity and succumbing of the masses that the strongest PC franchises this gen have fallen prey to. I want to see this franchise come out with a new title, built for PC gamers and console gamers that continues to not hold any punches. I have nothing but respect for the Souls series, and it's unfortunate some of you may cancel this while maybe having supported much bigger, greedier, and two-faced developers who have promised PC gamers the world while catering primarily to the lowest common denominator
Krappadizzle
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I think if more people thought that they wouldn't be so pissed that this is a shoddy port. I'm pissed because I love this game, it's fucking fantastic, this port should have been better. People are mad because they want to play it, not becaus they don't. It's definitely worth playing, on consoles. Dunno about PC yet...
old manatee
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I'll probably still buy this game day 1, because I've been dying to play one of these games forever, but I'm also still going to give it the proper boo-ing it deserves. In some ways it actually lowers the floor for what a shit port is below games like Saint's Row 2, Resident Evil 4, and the Oddboxx. They deserve to be called out.
Felix Lighter
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Gameplay vs fundamental game settings. It really shouldn't be an either/or proposition.
fluffydelusions
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Those screenshots look so blurry 
TimeEffect
Member
I'm saying that if you dealt with the rest of the BS that took away from gameplay from other PC franchises, you can deal with this. You played the game on the 360 version, I am referring to those who have never played the game and who have taken more crap from other PC publishers who have both experience and fundamental PC-oriented mechanics that they betrayed. This game was made for consoles in mind and later added to PC, I'd cut them some slack, but I understand if PC gamers don't want to. I just think that it's a shame that some PC gamers have put up with worse, in terms of gameplay, and the issue here is graphics.
I don't understand, so forgive me, but why is it not worth playing on PC? Aside from lower resolution and locked FPS. It was perfectly playable for me on my PS3, framerate dips aside (which weren't that horrible to deal with). Is it unplayable? Or just not PC-standard?
spindoctor
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What the fuck? No seriously, what the fuck? You think that a game's are either absolute trash like this or Crytek levels and nothing in between?
Locked at 30 FPS, AWESOME.
Why no 1080p? Not awesome but. Fine.
I played over a hundred hours on the PS3 and this game is THAT awesome, that even Skyrim with 1080p and everything set as high as i goes pales in comparison to the GAMEPLAY Dark Souls has to offer.
Don't cancel your preorders, Dark Souls is a masterpiece.
Why no 1080p? Not awesome but. Fine.
I played over a hundred hours on the PS3 and this game is THAT awesome, that even Skyrim with 1080p and everything set as high as i goes pales in comparison to the GAMEPLAY Dark Souls has to offer.
Don't cancel your preorders, Dark Souls is a masterpiece.
I was planning on getting a physical copy for like NZ$80, but screw that, I'm getting a digital one for half the price. I already finished the game more than 3 times on xbox, and all the way through I was thinking "man this would look so much better if everything wasn't so blurry". So I was really expecting the pc version to at least give us full HD graphics. Well, it looks like it's not going to happen. I still love the game and can't cope with the horrendous framerate of the console version anymore, so I'm going to get the PC port, but FROM, I am disappoint.
I don't understand some people in this thread....
And I went through all 17 pages.
The standard for consoles may be accepted by some, but this is not something that should be accepted by PC gamers. Just because console gamers are content with having garbage served to them on a platter, doesn't mean everyone is ignorant to what is going on behind the scenes.
I haven't seen this type of resolution since early 2000/late 1990's. Hell I'm not even asking for 60fps, at least give a render resolution of 1080p AT LEAST. I don't think it would be that hard. When people petitioned they wanted this great game brought over with BASIC levels of gaming on a PC. It blows my mind that something like this could be brought over. In motion it might not be as noticeable (see: Gamespot preview gameplay), but this is not something that should be charged $40.
Also for the people saying that THEY EVEN GAVE YOU DLC FOR FREE. You do realize this DLC was in production prior to this, and would've come to consoles irregardless of a PC version existing or not.
This thread has shown me some extremely ignorant people on GAF that I really wasn't expecting.
And I went through all 17 pages.
The standard for consoles may be accepted by some, but this is not something that should be accepted by PC gamers. Just because console gamers are content with having garbage served to them on a platter, doesn't mean everyone is ignorant to what is going on behind the scenes.
I haven't seen this type of resolution since early 2000/late 1990's. Hell I'm not even asking for 60fps, at least give a render resolution of 1080p AT LEAST. I don't think it would be that hard. When people petitioned they wanted this great game brought over with BASIC levels of gaming on a PC. It blows my mind that something like this could be brought over. In motion it might not be as noticeable (see: Gamespot preview gameplay), but this is not something that should be charged $40.
Also for the people saying that THEY EVEN GAVE YOU DLC FOR FREE. You do realize this DLC was in production prior to this, and would've come to consoles irregardless of a PC version existing or not.
This thread has shown me some extremely ignorant people on GAF that I really wasn't expecting.
P.S. $5 on Steam, I'll be waiting.
He....he... dropped through the scenery.
Pressed the debug key by accident, I think.
lol, the game's not gorgeous on any platform.
Fimbulvetr
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Several people have requested a second petition for a delay of the game in this thread. I'd love to make it if someone hasn't already, but the site the original petition was put up on, petitionbureau.org, is down. If anyone has ideas about starting a new petition, PM me. This needs to happen, even if all we get is clarification on why the game has these limitations.
It's gorgeous from an art standpoint. It's let down by its tech.
I think the game looked great even on console, a big part of that is the artstyle though.
I think it is worth playing on PC. I was pointing out that it doesn't make sense to say this is unplayable on PC (many people are saying this) but they don't say it is unplayable on PS3. If it plays the exact same on both then it is either playable on both or not playable on both.
fluffydelusions
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Looks like some bootleg cam movie from the pirate bay.
Felix Lighter
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I'm not seeing a lot of people say it's unplayable. I've seen a lot of people complain that it's unacceptably poor port job that they don't want to support or don't believe is worth the current asking price.
Haunted
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darkpaladinmfc
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Doesn't mean that it should be acceptable on PC when I'm used to playing at 120fps.
TimeEffect
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Ah OK, and right you are. It's playable, more so than the PS3 version since I presume the game is locked at 30 FPS
It is a shame, a truly great game that some people will not play only because some technical issue.
Probably more a case of the devs struggling with the tech. It uses the same engine as Journey. That game is gorgeous.
TimeEffect
Member
Poor port job with excellent gameplay from a relatively small publishing team not experienced with PC for $40 >> Shiny looking game with gutted/watered down gameplay from huge publishers that have had lots of PC experience for $50
And, unfortunately, the latter is what is the trend this gen. You PC gamers must have supported some of the latter. I'll take a poor port job with excellent gameplay over a shiny looking game with gutted/watered down gameplay
toddhunter
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That makes sense...but I want to see confirmation that the gameplay is actually in-tact, offline and online before buying.
Felix Lighter
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I think many of us have already played Dark Souls on a console. We loved the game despite some pretty severe performance issues. The thought of the game being released on modern hardware was exciting. This news is heartbreaking for people like myself. I was willing to repurchase a game I already owned in the hopes that even poor port job could be brute forced into something amazing. Instead they somehow redefined the term "bad console port.". I may still be stuck with my preorder anyways so all I can do is hope something is worked out.
Aye. The art is fantastic in the game but the overall implementation through the tech is less than impressive.
H_Prestige
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Holy shit, that new gameplay video! Artorias is a fucking beast. I love how he breathes like darth vader. The rep said he's even tougher than Gwyn, hopefully that means you can't parry him.
TimeEffect
Member
Well, Im just talking about those who havent played it at all and have no other option. Sorry that you couldn't get what you want out of it
Have they explained WHY yet? (Also, is the DLC coming to consoles?)
This really sucks. This is a guaranteed way to turn off a huge portion of the intended audience. This game is such a perfect fit for the PC crowd too, I was so sure that it would do well and flourish on the platform. Which would then lead to a day 1 version for Dark Souls 2.
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I know it hurts to swallow this bullshit, but it really really really is a fantastic game.
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I know it hurts to swallow this bullshit, but it really really really is a fantastic game.
DLC's confirmed to come to consoles, but they haven't said why they're clamping down on resolution/FPS. Maybe someone will pick the game apart and see if there's any faults they're hiding, I don't know whether it'd be good news or bad news if they found those rather than it being a misguided attempt at platform parity.