Had the weekend off and managed to finish the first three Splinter Cell games. I have to say: Even though they came out long, long, long time ago, they aged pretty well. Especially Chaos Theory which is one hell of a game. Those graphics, that awesome gameplay. What ELSE do you want? Of course I'm not done with the series yet. Can't wait to play the other games. Even though I heard they are not too good. Or at least not as good as the "First Generation" games. Anyway, I think CT is without a doubt one of the best Stealth Games ever made.
Splinter Cell Double Agent must be played on PS2/original Xbox.
The 360, PC and PS3 versions were done by a different team. The PS2/Xbox one was done by the original trilogy's team and is a lot better, almost on par with the original 3.
I'll drink to that. It also has my favorite piece of music in any game up to this point: the theme for Battery.
There's something about the game where if it was any other game, it'd be painfully slow and not very good. But Chaos Theory is so well designed that it truly makes you feel like your stalking the enemy, just waiting for the perfect time to strike. Still, if I had to choose, I prefer the pace of Blacklist to CT.
Blacklist is just as good as Chaos Theory and Conviction was great, enjoyed it more than every other SC game besides Blacklist/CT. Double Agent was okay, still better than PT to me, though. Not a fan of alarms ending the game.
Pandora Tomorrow was my first SC game and I really loved it. But Chaos Theory blew me away. I remember that first level in the rain looked so damn real, and using the knife to stealth kill people. Really great game.
I never really got into the multiplayer that much, although I had a couple of friends that really did.
Splinter Cell Double Agent must be played on PS2/original Xbox.
The 360, PC and PS3 versions were done by a different team. The PS2/Xbox one was done by the original trilogy's team and is a lot better, almost on par with the original 3.
It's such a shame that there is no PC version for the superior Double Agent version and Pandora Tomorrow. The latter technically has a version, but shadows don't work on modern GPUs.
Glad you're having fun with it, Chaos Theory has held up pretty well. Replacing the alarm/failure system with the alarm/armor system was a good move. And doing crazy stuff like the upside-down chokehold will never get old for me.
People always say that the 6th-gen version of Double Agent blows the 7th-gen version out of the water, but that hasn't been my experience; I think they're both pretty good. Maybe it's because I didn't witness that consensus form online. I think it's just parroted by tradition now.
No.
Conviction isn't even in the right genre. Blacklist has a lot of problems that Chaos Theory didn't, though it is at least a competent stealth game (when you play on Perfectionist).
It's such a shame that there is no PC version for the superior Double Agent version and Pandora Tomorrow. The latter technically has a version, but shadows don't work on modern GPUs.
True. The lighting and shadows looked beautiful back around the time of it's release. I'd like Ubi to get on it, but that's just wishful thinking at this point.
You may want to skip Conviction as it's a pretty middling stealth game and plays more like a linear action game, but Blacklist is absolutely phenomenal. Definitely give that one a go.
Chaos Theory has better animation and control than the newest games.
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Especially crouch-walking (you know like 90% of the game) the newest games are a frigging joke in that regard. The bread and butter, and they're total crap at it. I get actually aggravated thinking about it.
Not very helpful to the thread but this is a shot I took last year with GeDoSaTo at 6k + bloom. Game still holds up really well graphically obviously. Wish I'd taken more shots as well
You on point with Splinter Cell, I started with conviction and the Blacklist and I must say that stealth is just ridiculously satisfying in these games
Chaos theory is one of my favorite games of all time. Love the series as a whole. That being said its just not the same without Michael Ironside. Wish he'd come back for one more. I want a truly next gen traditional Splinter Cell. Hope it happens.
People always say that the 6th-gen version of Double Agent blows the 7th-gen version out of the water, but that hasn't been my experience; I think they're both pretty good. Maybe it's because I didn't witness that consensus form online. I think it's just parroted by tradition now.
I kinda agree. The 'next-gen' version of Double Agent was maybe more flawed but also more ambitious, which overall actually makes me like it more than the other version which was just more of the same.
Chaos theory is one of my favorite games of all time. Love the series as a whole. That being said its just not the same without Michael Ironside. Wish he'd come back for one more. I want a truly next gen traditional Splinter Cell. Hope it happens.
Chaos Theory was definitely the best one, and I agree Michael Ironside was pretty essential to this series, he was like the one thing that gave it some character that wasn't just generic modern military spy stuff.
Incredible game, just behind Thief 1-2 as far as stealth goes for me. Hope they keep the series going, blacklist was a step in the right direction but still had some work to do to return the greatness of the first 3 games, the level design is just so tight in those.
I can't agree more, like the game itself the soundtrack on Chaos Theory is by far the best in the series. Personally I really like the "Theme From Battery" track.
It's such a shame that there is no PC version for the superior Double Agent version and Pandora Tomorrow. The latter technically has a version, but shadows don't work on modern GPUs.
I played the Wii version of the superior Double Agent myself. The Wii remote controls were just a little bit janky, but very solid game overall. Definitely enjoyed it more than the shitty version of Double Agent, or Conviction for that matter.
I might buy them all again on PC for cheap when my new computer arrives, plus old Rainbow Six games. The nostalgia of going through it is going to be great. I'm definitely going through Blacklist again. Such good games. Glad to hear older Splinter Cell games are still holding up.
Played the first two when they came out, liked them a lot, but haven't touched the series for almost a decade afterwards, because various reasons. Played CT for the first time last year. It's soooo good. Holds up incredibly well. One of the all time greats.
I never understood how a publisher could take a franchise out of one generation on such a high note and turn around and almost kill it with its first entry into a new generation.
Chaos Theory is an incredible game that still holds up well today. Graphics, controls and everything else plays well. Still play it every now an then.....also I am ashamed to say I never have actually beaten it lol. I got stuck on
the mission where at the very end you have to defuse the bombs (I think bathhouse?). Could figure out how to defuse them lol
Chaos Theory is a superb classic. Just terrific game. Haven't played one since conviction but may give latest one a pop as I hear it's a bit of a return to form.
Still though, how could you deliver a game like Chaos Theory then produce sub-part titles afterwards?
Hard to believe Chaos Theory is a 6th gen game. Visually it can almost pass for a 7th gen one, and mechanically it destroys most if not all other games in its genre.
The fact that shooting out light sources worked and was actually strategic blew my mind. Current games sometimes don't even react to a bulb or light being broken.
No matter how many times I try, I just cannot get past the fact crouch-walk is only one speed. The game feels incredibly janky to me (especially in close, confined quarters) and it's even worse because you cannot switch shoulders either. The core mechanics of sneaking, are crap.
I love every Splinter Cell games. Absolutely amazing games. Every other stealth game I come I across I try to play as if it's a Splinter Cell game and I'm always disappointed. My favourite game is probably the first one. It's very high on the very espionage side of things. Lots of embassies to infiltrate which provide the best reason to do a ghost run.
Splinter Cell is pretty different from Hitman. There are no disguises, for one. In Hitman, you could usually just say, "Fuck it," and gun everyone down if you were feeling frustrated; doing that in Splinter Cell will get you killed (except in Conviction and in Blacklist's lower difficulties). There's much more focus on staying in the shadows, and there aren't (generally) any clever Hitman-style scripted moments, like
replacing a prop pistol with a real one.
Hitman is generally about finding creative ways to kill people. Splinter Cell (at least, for the good entries in the series) is generally about finding creative ways to get from one area to another.
Chaos Theory is an incredible game that still holds up well today. Graphics, controls and everything else plays well. Still play it every now an then.....also I am ashamed to say I never have actually beaten it lol. I got stuck on
the mission where at the very end you have to defuse the bombs (I think bathhouse?). Could figure out how to defuse them lol
Fuck. That. Mission. There are three bombs in that room. They're not exactly hidden, but they're in tucked-away corners. It's a shame you never beat it, because the ending of that mission is probably the coolest part of the game.
No matter how many times I try, I just cannot get past the fact crouch-walk is only one speed. The game feels incredibly janky to me (especially in close, confined quarters) and it's even worse because you cannot switch shoulders either. The core mechanics of sneaking, are crap.
I don't despise Blacklist, but I don't think that it lives up to Chaos Theory. It has a lot of problems, and, like you said, lack of granularity in movement speed is one of the most glaring ones. Another huge problem is the lack of an audio indicator, which it really needs given that guards will mysteriously be alerted by certain sounds but not others.
I could go on about Blacklist's problems for a while, actually. But ultimately, I think it's a competent stealth game (on Perfectionist), which is sadly rare these days. (No, Dishonored and Deus Ex are not stealth games, they just have optional sneaking in them.)
The PC version has many effects not present on any other versions and much better textures, it looks much better than on the original Xbox.
The PC version was next-gen before next-gen in 2005.
I bought the "ultimate" edition and it works very well on W8.1, no crashes or visual corruptions thus far.
Supports 1080p and the 360 controller natively.
