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LTTP: Yakuza (2006) [PS2] - Do it for her

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
In preparation for the upcoming Yakuza 5, I plan to run through every localized game in the series, starting with the first entry, which I've just completed. I didn't even hear about this franchise until probably around the time 4 was localized, so needless to say, I've got a lot to catch up on. For full transparency: I have finished the 4th game and sunk around 15 hours into the second, so this technically isn't my first rodeo. Submitted for your approval are my impressions of Yakuza, the first chapter in the story of Kazuma Kiryu.

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Firstly, I'd like to address this specific game's reputation. I had heard from several people who are fans of the Yakuza franchise that the first game is rough around the edges, and that I shouldn't tailor my expectations for the series on any of its shortcomings. Maybe it's good that hearing this must've affected my enjoyment of the game, because I had a blast with the first Yakuza game. Let me break down my reaction to each asset of the game so that my thoughts can be more gathered and easier to digest.

Combat

As I've mentioned, I've already played Yakuza 4 to completion, and when I got about knee deep into Yakuza 1 it really struck me how much of what makes the combat in this series greatly satisfying is present even in the first game. Parries, sidesteps, reversals and even back-turned attacks all make each encounter really fun to experiment with. I found many of the techniques taught by the bum at Purgatory to be the most satisfying, such as the parry (L1 before an attack) and counter hold (O before an attack), although the latter proved much more difficult to execute due to the variation in startup times from enemy attacks.

It felt like the combat in this game was maybe more open-ended than it needed to be; ignoring the number of retries listed below (look, I went into the second fight with Majima without any healing items and with no health, okay?), overall the encounters felt pretty easy. Usually I would get into MORE trouble with the mindset of "I'm gonna finish this with a counter!", but it's hard to fault the game for giving you a truckload of options to play around with. Would have been nice to be given more reasons to use some of the cooler moves, though, other than that they are cool and using them is fun.

Voice Acting

I feel the need to isolate this as I know it's a sticking point for a lot of people, and it's pretty obvious why. For those who don't know, the first Yakuza game is the only entry which received an English dub, while the rest of the games retain their Japanese dub but offer English subtitles. Even with a star-studded cast featuring Mark Hamil as The Joker as Majima and the guy who played Raiden in Metal Gear as Shinji, it's a little wonky. I wouldn't be surprised if the script was heavily altered so that the lines synced up with the character's mouths, as some of the lines are bonkers and their delivery slightly disjointed.

Also, it's a little distracting that shop-owners still speak Japanese, and that random thugs are clearly using the same voice clips, just lowered in tone for bigger characters and higher for smaller characters. Last note on this: Kage the Informant was HORRIBLY miscast. Dude sounded like an Italian mobster.

Story

Moving on, I want to talk a little bit about the story of Yakuza 1. It does a decent enough job giving you a reason to beat up random thugs, and a lot of the cutscenes LOOK great (I'll talk a little more about that later), but it feels over-complicated and I would've liked a story with a tighter focus. Everyone's double crossing everyone, and everyone knows they're being double crossed. I killed your parents, I've always loved you, yadda yadda. It's not bad, and it serves its purpose, but I'm a little muddy on some of the plot points and overall I think the narrative was just decent. I also want to mention that Lau Ka Long's segment was weirdly brief.

The characters are a strength, however, Date and Kiryu make good "unlikely" partners and are fun to watch together. Nishiki is cool, wish we got to see him more. Kage the Florist is always cool (despite that voice actor!) and Haruka could've been really annoying, but somehow wasn't.

Presentation and performance

Yakuza looks good on PS2. I played through the game with official SONY component cables on a SANYO flat-screen CRT. I went back and forth between playing in 4:3 (which matched the TV screen) and 16:9 (black bars) before settling on the latter. It bugged me that the radar and the subtitles in cutscenes were stretched in 16:9 mode, while other UI elements such as the clan emblems were presented correctly. Small annoyance, still preferred playing in widescreen as it seems to actually give more of the picture rather than cutting off the top and bottom of it, and the transitions between gameplay and cutscenes don't change aspect ratio.

Frame rate seemed really solid, I don't have any numbers but it played very smoothly in and out of battle, with occasional frame drops when exploring Kamurocho. The screen does FREEZE occasionally when transitioning from one section of the city to another, which at first is really distracting but eventually didn't bug me.

Conclusion

I got a little depressed while finishing this game, because honestly, I'm going to miss it. I know I've got lots more Kamurocho ahead of me, but it's not like I 100%'d the game and it feels a little bad leaving it behind as I move onto the next game. I want to tell everyone who's interested in this series: the first game isn't that expensive. It still plays great, it still looks great, and if you're starting with 3 or 4 on the PS3 and just going from there, you're going to miss out on something pretty cool.

Highly recommended.

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The numbers

Number of Completed Sub Scenarios: 53
Percentage of Moves Acquired: 100%
Number of Defeated Enemies: 874
Percentage of Coin Lockers Opened: 78%
Number of Retries: 17
Number of Saves: 58
Play Time: 24:26
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Yakuza 2 is even better, especially how well it ties into the first game, though sadly it starts the series tradition of
mucking with a happy ending.


Also I really liked Date's dub voice. I missed it in Y2.
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
Yakuza 2 is even better, especially how well it ties into the first game, though sadly it starts the series tradition of
mucking with a happy ending.


Also I really liked Date's dub voice. I missed it in Y2.

I really liked what I played of 2 and it's going to feel weird starting over after sinking so much time into it, but it's been a few months and I'm sure much of the story has been forgotten.

Really looking forward to playing through 2 anyway. If I have time I'll even do Dead Souls and replay 4.
 
Damnit, I was going to have my first threads be LTTP's of these games haha. Oh well, your write up is awesome and I'm happy to have a place to discuss!

I agree, I think the dialogue was heavily altered for the English cast. Jumping into 2, (I'm currently at chapter 8), I could not believe how much better the writing got. It was such a drastic jump, even in just incidental lines, (thugs actually having varied insults instead of just variations of "fuck you"), that I figure the English dub caused the story to suffer beyond just the voice acting.

As someone who hadn't played any of them before 1, I really loved the combat. I agree with you that it felt like the game was giving me plenty, if almost too many, options as to what I could do at any given moment, but I think that's what I loved most. It felt like the natural evolution of the 2d beat 'em up I always wanted. The lack of a good lock on was only a nuisance during some of the optional fights, where enemies would suddenly have Z-targeting on you and would dashing circles around you, but otherwise it didn't bother me much.

More than anything, and this has less to do with the game and more when I played it, but it had a very nostalgic feel for me. I have long since been burnt out on huge open worlds, and the smaller, but more detailed district of Kamurocho was a refreshing change of pace. I remember everything about it so vividly, then when small things change in two it actually had an impact on me. A perfect example of less is more, as I think I'll remember the character Kamurocho had much longer than most open worlds of the current generation.

Hopefully I'll beat 2 before your next LTTP!
 

vocab

Member
I'm really curious to know how many sub stories I did in one, it seemed like I did none at all. I couldn't find them!
 
I still think English Majima is awesome. English Kiryu is okay but really hard to hear. Everyone else seems to be trying too hard with the F bombs everywhere, though that might be due to the writing.

Don't feel bad though, I never truly completed Yakuza 1. I felt guilty as well and vowed to complete it when the HD remaster got localized. I'm still waiting though lol.
 
I think Yakuza 1 has a really good story, but it's marred by the bad localization. The plot and character beats are all done well, I think. But obviously it has nothing on 2, which is just sheer perfection.

What I love about all of these games is how much there is to do, and how varied the game play is. It's pretty impressive that they keep getting better with the games each time out (even if they've never reached the overall peak of 2 due to how incredible that story was). You've got a lot of great times ahead of you.
 
Man, the fact that I was 13 when I first played Yakuza is crazy to me. I bought it because I thought Kiryu's back tattoo was cool and I had leftover money from a birthday party or something. Even with the really awkward VA the characters are all still likable (The Kazuma/Haruka relationship is one of my favorites in videogames) and of course HEAT actions are the most badass thing in any game I've ever played. Even on old hardware the breadth of activities in Kamurocho is still staggering.

I bought the HD collection but still haven't gotten around to playing it, which is a shame. I dunno if 5 will be the last game ever localized, but if it is it's been a hell of a run. Probably the most consistently high-quality series I've played.
 
Really wish SEGA would just release 1&2 HD in the West, relocalizing 1 can't be that big of a deal and 2 already has work translated...but I suppose I'm over simplifying the issue. Still would be nice since it apparently fixes a few control issues and obvious the more well done Japanese voice track is a plus (I don't hate the dub, it was okay for a product of its time and I get what they were trying to do, but it didn't work overall and keeping honorifics was weird).

Voice Acting

I feel the need to isolate this as I know it's a sticking point for a lot of people, and it's pretty obvious why. For those who don't know, the first Yakuza game is the only entry which received an English dub, while the rest of the games retain their Japanese dub but offer English subtitles. Even with a star-studded cast featuring Mark Hamil as The Joker as Majima and the guy who played Raiden in Metal Gear as Shinji, it's a little wonky. I wouldn't be surprised if the script was heavily altered so that the lines synced up with the character's mouths, as some of the lines are bonkers and their delivery slightly disjointed.

Also, it's a little distracting that shop-owners still speak Japanese, and that random thugs are clearly using the same voice clips, just lowered in tone for bigger characters and higher for smaller characters. Last note on this: Kage the Informant was HORRIBLY miscast. Dude sounded like an Italian mobster.

Actually, that wasn't Quinton Flynn, though he did voice some of the other characters. On a related note,
Jingu was voiced by Kaz, while Lau Ka Longwas Skull Face. Strange ain't it?
 
The characters are a strength, however, Date and Kiryu make good "unlikely" partners and are fun to watch together. Nishiki is cool, wish we got to see him more. Kage the Florist is always cool (despite that voice actor!) and Haruka could've been really annoying, but somehow wasn't...

& here, imo, lies the true secret of the awesomeness of this franchise, & it's what elevates kiryu beyond being just another badass. haruka is the yakuza series soul, & she's always great :) ...
 

Victrix

*beard*
I think I need to check this series out, I'm really not sure why I missed out on it, the subject matter appeals to me. For some reason I think I thought the series wasn't localized? Maybe I'm an idiot.

One question, I'm kind of burnt on open world collectathons, is this game more focused in its execution and narrative?

I totally dig a realized space to explore and fool around in, I'm just sick of 'completed 5/75 of 100 repetitive task' popups with sparse story and relatively few unique situations.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
I think I need to check this series out, I'm really not sure why I missed out on it, the subject matter appeals to me. For some reason I think I thought the series wasn't localized? Maybe I'm an idiot.

One question, I'm kind of burnt on open world collectathons, is this game more focused in its execution and narrative?

I totally dig a realized space to explore and fool around in, I'm just sick of 'completed 5/75 of 100 repetitive task' popups with sparse story and relatively few unique situations.

The series is very story heavy, and the sidestories are crazy, though you sure have to dig for some of them.
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
I think I need to check this series out, I'm really not sure why I missed out on it, the subject matter appeals to me. For some reason I think I thought the series wasn't localized? Maybe I'm an idiot.

One question, I'm kind of burnt on open world collectathons, is this game more focused in its execution and narrative?

I totally dig a realized space to explore and fool around in, I'm just sick of 'completed 5/75 of 100 repetitive task' popups with sparse story and relatively few unique situations.
You can chug through the story and completely ignore all the side content if you want... but there's so much quirk that only lets itself be seen in the side missions.

I don't play GTA, never had the patience to finish RDR or make it more than 2 hours into Skyrim, but I eat these Yakuza games up for breakfast. I've actually already started up 2 after telling myself I'd take a bit of a breather. They're really special games and I hope you consider giving them a try - and yes, the main games got localized.
 
It'd be nice to be able to play 1-5 on PS3, but really the first game holds up very well on the PS2.

Yea but I don't know if I'll be able to play with the english dub. Not saying is bad or anything but I'm used to the JP voices already (my first Yakuza game was 3)
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
Yea but I don't know if I'll be able to play with the english dub. Not saying is bad or anything but I'm used to the JP voices already (my first Yakuza game was 3)

My first game was 4 and you can see my take on the dub in OP. in the very least, it's not worth missing out on the game for.
 

LiK

Member
Y1 was a solid foundation for the series. You definitely get to know Kiryu and why he's such a badass and also your first meeting with Haruka and your relationship with her is so sweet. I didn't mind the English dub at all like some other people. It was very good especially for the time. Hell, Mark fucking Hamill was in it! Haruka's English VO was also perfect. I always tell people to play the first game because it still holds a special place in my heart since most of the characters that appear are recurring and develop over the course of the series. it may not be the best in the series but it's still awesome.
 
My first game was 4 and you can see my take on the dub in OP. in the very least, it's not worth missing out on the game for.

The game looks good so it really is tempting... I'll check out the prices and see if I can play Yakuza 1 & 2 before 5 arrives.
 

LiK

Member
The game looks good so it really is tempting... I'll check out the prices and see if I can play Yakuza 1 & 2 before 5 arrives.

I'm hoping Y5 sells well enough that we could get Y1&2 HD remasters to be localized. but yes, definitely check out the original games. the fixed camera angles make them feel more like traditional RPGs than the new ones.
 
The game looks good so it really is tempting... I'll check out the prices and see if I can play Yakuza 1 & 2 before 5 arrives.

They are great games, with 2 quickly becoming a new personal favorite the farther in I get. I really wish Sony would release them on PSN as classics at the very least. It's a crime that more people haven't gotten to play them, especially 2.
 

LiK

Member
They are great games, with 2 quickly becoming a new personal favorite the farther in I get. I really wish Sony would release them on PSN as classics at the very least. It's a crime that more people haven't gotten to play them, especially 2.

Y2 also has the best baddie in the series, imo
 
Y2 has one of the best boss fights ever at the end. I love how Y1 does a great job making you feel like a huge badass when you beat up liek 40 dudes and then the game goes into a cutscene with kiryu just standing there being a cool guy. I cannot wait for 5 to come out.
 
I think I need to check this series out, I'm really not sure why I missed out on it, the subject matter appeals to me. For some reason I think I thought the series wasn't localized? Maybe I'm an idiot.

One question, I'm kind of burnt on open world collectathons, is this game more focused in its execution and narrative?

I totally dig a realized space to explore and fool around in, I'm just sick of 'completed 5/75 of 100 repetitive task' popups with sparse story and relatively few unique situations.

Yeah, the game is pretty focused with the narrative. You can pretty much always be moving forward.

There is a lot of side content, but it isn't mindless collectibles. Mostly the side stories are unique and wacky, and most of the other side content is different game play stuff with things like fighting tournaments, casino games, mahjong, going to the batting cages, hostess clubs, and much more.

There's a massive amount of side content, but it's all pretty unique.
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
I feel dirty bumping my own LTTP thread but given last nights announcement of Y1E I think people might appreciate my impressions of the game's original release.

Plus it's spoiler free I think!

Still chugging through Y2.
 
Got copies of 1-4 recently, started with 1 the other night. I really love how pick-up-and-play the game has been so far. Dub-only is kind of a bummer but w/e, everything else rules.
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
Got copies of 1-4 recently, started with 1 the other night. I really love how pick-up-and-play the game has been so far. Dub-only is kind of a bummer but w/e, everything else rules.
Glad you're liking it! I'm knee deep in 3 and really glad I played the first game for narrative reasons alone. I also liked it better than I'm liking 3!
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
with kiwami a month away i'm a little sad that the PS2 version of Yakuza 1 is about to be forever irrelevant in the west. we never got the HD release and i highly doubt Sony would ever bring this to PS2 on PS4.

it's really too bad because i do feel this game gets a bad rap due largely to performance problems. nevertheless ill miss the parry system, people always parrot that the combat in Yakuza gets better with every new entry but i think it's not that simple, and in some ways i prefer the combat of vanilla yakuza 1 to that of yakuza 0.

beyond that the look of the first two PS2 games are pretty distinct from the HD entries and i really wish kiwami had some way of toggling between the two styles, even if it's just for cutscenes if toggling kamurocho is impossible.

depending on whether or not i like kiwami i may never boot up vanilla yakuza again, so here's to all the memories. never forget the game that started it all.
 

Ceallach

Smells like fresh rosebuds
I recently replayed Yakuza on Wii U, and it holds up well. Shame we never got the 1+2 collection. Working my way through the whole series this year. Played 0 and 1. Gonna start on 2 HD when I get back home.
 
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