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jett · Feb 15, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1rEztT77NM

Just a video for now. Main takeaways:

-PC version has per-object motion blur
-PC version has higher resolution textures but it's unnoticeable during regular gameplay
-PC version has "better" temporal AA
-They didn't do any framerate testing
-They mostly look the same, except for the motion blur

Speaking on the motion blur and the AA, I think both are way too strong in the PC version, the top end options anyway, it just gives the game a really blurry look, in stills and in motion.

dark10x said:
...and here's the video I did for the game. Looks more in-depth at the PC settings. Didn't have long to work on it but I think it turned out OK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5IcIPRYpBU&feature=youtu.be

Guymelef · Feb 15, 2016

I hate the motion blur on this game.

RecRoulette · Feb 15, 2016

"-They didn't do any framerate testing"

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I-hate-u · Feb 15, 2016

Why no frame-data testing? That's the biggest thing.

Edit: Doesn't matter anyway. Pro tour will played on PS4. I really hope there is parity between both versions. I don't want to hear excuses like in during the PS3 era of Capcom fighters.

shandy706 · Feb 15, 2016

PS4 build doing an Xbox impression with that black crush.

I-hate-u said:
Why no frame-data testing? That's the biggest thing.

Probably coming in a second article.

E_Darkness · Feb 15, 2016

Damn. I was hoping for FPS tests.

JumpCancel · Feb 15, 2016

If possible will be turning off Motion Blur and AA. Hope there is no FPS issues on PC, otherwise I'll burst my V-trigger.

Digital Foundry do graphical comparison videos along with separate FPS comparison videos.

For now, we must wait.

Skilletor · Feb 15, 2016

The motion blur and AA in this game look awful on PC. Just makes it look like a blurry mess.

Gojeran · Feb 15, 2016

Skilletor said:
The motion blur and AA in this game look awful on PC. Just makes it look like a blurry mess.

This so fricking much. Please let us turn this off. It's fucking terrible.

Guymelef · Feb 15, 2016

Skilletor said:
The motion blur and AA in this game look awful on PC. Just makes it look like a blurry mess.

Yep, it's one of those cases where "less is more".

FinKL · Feb 15, 2016

I must be the minority, one of the reasons I would say the PC version looks better is because of motion blur. I also set "auto motion plus" (soap opera effect) to max on my tvs that have it, so maybe I've just gotten used to it.

I'll probably turn it off though and set my PC as close to PS4 to replicate tournament settings.

S1kkZ · Feb 15, 2016

not a single mention of the terrible shadow dithering on ps4...

Gbraga · Feb 15, 2016

FinKL said:
I must be the minority, one of the reasons I would say the PC version looks better is because of motion blur. I also set "auto motion plus" (soap opera effect) to max on my tvs that have it, so maybe I've just gotten used to it.

I'll probably turn it off though and set my PC as close to PS4 to replicate tournament settings.

You should turn off that setting on your TV to get closer to tournament settings. You want as little input lag as possible.

I'll try forcing vsync off through the control panel as well for that reason.

Someone said in the OT that setting Post Process to Medium gets rid of the awful motion blur, for people who dislike it as well.

Garlador · Feb 15, 2016

Guymelef said:
Yep, it's one of those cases where "less is more".

It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

No game gave me as much of a headache as that game did. Even the "fix" was more like a band-aid.

5taquitos · Feb 15, 2016

FinKL said:
I also set "auto motion plus" (soap opera effect) to max on my tvs that have it, so maybe I've just gotten used to it.

Gross.

Oneself · Feb 15, 2016

Beta had frame drops on PS4, I hope the problem is cleared.

nOoblet16 · Feb 15, 2016

Per object motion blur really should be standard and relatively cheap feature to implement this gen, especially for a fighter so I don't know why it's missing here.
In defence of the effect, when done properly (as in only for fast movement, without too much intensity and only applied to the body part moving fast rather than the ones surrounding it) and implemented with the right game it can look downright amazing at 60FPS. Tekken 5 is a good example of great use of per object motion blur to enhance animations.

But I don't think Street Fighter is the right kind of game for this since the animations in Street Fighter freeze on contact, while at the same time there are some animations that are very fast. The intensity of the blur is also a bit too high, for instance the entire upper body of Ryu is blurred when he is charging up and launching a Hadoken, when it really should just be his arms.

NaDannMaGoGo · Feb 15, 2016

Yeh, no thanks at that blur.

Backfoggen · Feb 15, 2016

jett said:
-They didn't do any framerate testing.

Mates, you had one job when it comes to fighting games.

dragonflys545 · Feb 15, 2016

Garlador said:
It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

No game gave me as much of a headache as that game did. Even the "fix" was more like a band-aid.

You just gave me a headache. Did not know it was that bad lol.

Spinluck · Feb 15, 2016

Garlador said:
It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

No game gave me as much of a headache as that game did. Even the "fix" was more like a band-aid.

I'm getting a nauseated just looking at this.

dark10x · Feb 15, 2016

Man, you guys hate the motion blur? For shame. I think it looks godlike. Absolutely love it.

VariantX · Feb 15, 2016

Garlador said:
It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

No game gave me as much of a headache as that game did. Even the "fix" was more like a band-aid.

Literally could not play that game without feeling motion sick pre patch. Even post patch, the rotation speed of the camera along with the movement of the characters still feel off, it just wont make you want to hurl after 5 minutes of play.

neojubei · Feb 15, 2016

dark10x said:
Man, you guys hate the motion blur? For shame. I think it looks godlike. Absolutely love it.

me too

Wallach · Feb 15, 2016

I feel like they have the resolution scaling setting fucked up in their PC footage. I don't recall the game looking that blurry in beta on my end, and I actually bounced between both versions of the beta on the same panel.

JumpCancel · Feb 15, 2016

Garlador said:
It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

.

Did you type "Need for Speed" wrong?

R3TRODYCE · Feb 15, 2016

So a GTX 950 matches the PS4 experience.

Interesting.

WickedLaharl · Feb 15, 2016

5taquitos said:
Gross.

Yup. Horrible feature!

Jawmuncher · Feb 15, 2016

Garlador said:
It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

No game gave me as much of a headache as that game did. Even the "fix" was more like a band-aid.

Glad they patched that later on. Dunno who thought that was a good idea.

Dictator93 · Feb 15, 2016

Guymelef said:
I hate the motion blur on this game.

JumpCancel said:
If possible will be turning off Motion Blur and AA. Hope there is no FPS issues on PC, otherwise I'll burst my V-trigger.

Digital Foundry do graphical comparison videos along with separate FPS comparison videos.

For now, we must wait.

Skilletor said:
The motion blur and AA in this game look awful on PC. Just makes it look like a blurry mess.

Gojeran said:
This so fricking much. Please let us turn this off. It's fucking terrible.

I would be very surprised if the post processing option in the menu did not control motion blur or an autoexec. could not take care of it like in all other UE games.

I love the motion blur and the ultra AA. To each his own I guess.

Nick · Feb 15, 2016

So glad they did away with the ugly dithering that was on the Ps4 beta. Also, Justin Wong was complaining of dropped frames in the Ps4 version? Glad I stuck with Steam.

Windforce · Feb 15, 2016

Garlador said:
It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

No game gave me as much of a headache as that game did. Even the "fix" was more like a band-aid.

Damn I got dizzy just looking at the images.

On topic: ground looks pretty aliased on PS4 on the OP picture.

Gren · Feb 15, 2016

S1kkZ said:
not a single mention of the terrible shadow dithering on ps4...

Those dithered shadows look a hell of a lot better than PC's lowest shadow setting (huge, jagged edges everywhere).

I'd really like it if in the final release they allowed us to fully disable certain settings (blur, AA, etc) via editing the config file, as it didn't work in the beta.

dark10x · Feb 15, 2016

Dictator93 said:
I would be very surprised if the post processing option in the menu did not control motion blur or an autoexec. could not take care of it like in all other UE games.

I love the motion blur and the ultra AA. To each his own I guess.

You can modify all of it and I'll be covering that in my PC settings video tomorrow.

Wallach · Feb 15, 2016

Nick said:
So glad they did away with the ugly dithering that was on the Ps4 beta.

They didn't. It's all over the PS4 footage in this video.

sir_bumble_bee · Feb 15, 2016

The motion blur works wonders for the character intros but yeah... in gameplay it's a little too much.

FinKL · Feb 15, 2016

Gbraga said:
You should turn off that setting on your TV to get closer to tournament settings. You want as little input lag as possible.

I'll try forcing vsync off through the control panel as well for that reason.

Someone said in the OT that setting Post Process to Medium gets rid of the awful motion blur, for people who dislike it as well.

During gaming, latency is king. My samsung is in game mode with all post processing off. Luckily, I'm playing on PC this time around with a monitor.

As a spectator, I think the blur is ok, if not slightly a tad much, but I wouldn't ever play with it on. I mean, in a game where judging range and seeing attacks is key, why would you want to "blur" animations.

Dreams-Visions · Feb 15, 2016

ps4 char models look better to me at matching resolutions, but the environment is clearly superior on the PC. dat floor. not to mention the color accuracy (lack of crush)

anyway, downsampling and higher resolutions will be a thing on PC, so it'll never actually be a debate which looks better.

ZeroX03 · Feb 15, 2016

The motion blur is incredible in this game, loved it. Don't blow it out of proportion. Also, let's not forget the PS4 version suffers from dithering.

Dictator93 · Feb 15, 2016

dark10x said:
You can modify all of it and I'll be covering that in my PC settings video tomorrow.

You da man, Dark.

I am not exactly sure why the game has apparently lower res textures on PS4. Maybe they were just using a very straight UE4 porting idea? Default settings translation?

Or like Rich said, to reduce load times (this one makes sense tbh)?

dark10x said:
PC settings video tomorrow.

sir_bumble_bee said:
The motion blur works wonders for the character intros but yeah... in gameplay it's a little too much.

This makes me wonder if you can .ini tweak motion blur shutter speed and strength for all those who think it is "a bit too much".

Gojeran · Feb 15, 2016

Dictator93 said:
I would be very surprised if the post processing option in the menu did not control motion blur or an autoexec. could not take care of it like in all other UE games.

I love the motion blur and the ultra AA. To each his own I guess.

I'm not too worried about the AA. I plan to run it at 1440p or even down sampled 4K but that blur has got to go. Glad to hear it likely won't be an issue.

Kraftwerk · Feb 15, 2016

Garlador said:
It can't be as bad as Type-O, right?

No game gave me as much of a headache as that game did. Even the "fix" was more like a band-aid.

holy fuck this is bad

T.O.P · Feb 15, 2016

Team Motion Blur, looks fantastic in game

cackhyena · Feb 15, 2016

Oneself said:
Beta had frame drops on PS4, I hope the problem is cleared.

It didn't. People who have the game now are saying there's still drops.

JumpCancel · Feb 15, 2016

Dictator93 said:
I love the motion blur and the ultra AA. To each his own I guess.

When done right it can be a worthwhile addition. I just never found it enjoyable enough to use, and most times its obscures the game.

That and film grain can do one when I'm playing.

UnrealEck · Feb 15, 2016

I'd play it on PC.
More flexibility in graphics, higher resolution, better AA, smoother/higher performance and the ability to use my 1ms monitor.

StriKeVillain · Feb 15, 2016

dark10x said:
You can modify all of it and I'll be covering that in my PC settings video tomorrow.

Great news.

SpiceMelange · Feb 15, 2016

I don't know if it's the motion blur or the lack of AF, but the tiles on the floor on ps4 look horribly jaggy

vg260 · Feb 15, 2016

dark10x said:
Man, you guys hate the motion blur? For shame. I think it looks godlike. Absolutely love it.

Yes, I hate it. I think it's an awful application to use it for characters in fighters.

Angel_DvA · Feb 15, 2016

No framerate test on a fighting game ? any ETA Dark ?

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