Compsiox
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https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/4crsmo/oculuss_services_are_always_on_and_you_should_be/
I thought this was necessary to bring to everyone's attention.
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Oculus's services are always on and you should be concerned
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I thought this was necessary to bring to everyone's attention.
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Scuba Steve
Member
Fucking Facebook
Fucking Facebook
I'm increasingly happy that I canceled my pre-order. Such a terrible company.
metareferential
Member
Facebook is facebook, but everything you do online gets stored and used.
There's really no way around it (not that this makes this thing any less gross, mind you).
There's really no way around it (not that this makes this thing any less gross, mind you).
SmoothRunningGun
Member
That seems ridiculous. At least should be a way to opt out.
Compsiox
Banned
They can use information on your computer
John Kowalski
Banned
Well one way is not using services or products that permit those kinds of exchanges.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Looking more, and more like the Facebook acquisition warped things. But they wouldn't be in the position they are now without the capital.
tim_pkmn89
Member
So like literally any other privacy policy? People are freaking out just because it's Facebook, like people complaining about app permissions when everything has a legit purpose in the app.
There is. Don't do business with Facebook. I highly suggest opting out in this manner.
LUFTRAUSER
Banned
Yeah, but there's a huge difference between your data being spread across a bunch of different companies that don't know what to do with it and all your data being sent to one single tech company that is probably the best at analyzing and mining data in the world.
Compsiox
Banned
It goes deeper than you think.
..because they have a proven history of abusing their access to your information.
family_guy
Member
Run -> services.msc -> Find Occulus service and stop it. Re-enable when you need to.
Theanine3D
Member
Yup, I've disabled the Oculus service from starting automatically since I first got my DK2, it never sat right with me. I just start it manually when I'm going to use it (which isn't often these days).
metareferential
Member
It's not like you have something constantly scanning your drive datamining everything.
hopefully
I'm not defending it, just putting it into context.
Of course. Problem is, we should forget the internet altogether (and everything else also).
But yeah, accessing "info" on our computers is another story.
Outtrigger888
Member
Not even surprised, really not of a fan of oculus or Palmer anymore. I was rooting for these guys a couple of years ago.
Edit: someone should tweet Palmer and ask him if this will be fixed, I'd love to see his response.
Edit: someone should tweet Palmer and ask him if this will be fixed, I'd love to see his response.
How does this compare to the information you've already put in your Facebook profile?
I think people also need to take a breath and figure out what they mean by "services". Services (capital S) is most likely referring to "Using the Oculus Software", and not referring to the Windows services that are monitoring for the Rift to turn on. Because I'm pretty sure that's all those services are doing.. it's the Oculus Home software that's calling home to Facebook, not the services.
I think people also need to take a breath and figure out what they mean by "services". Services (capital S) is most likely referring to "Using the Oculus Software", and not referring to the Windows services that are monitoring for the Rift to turn on. Because I'm pretty sure that's all those services are doing.. it's the Oculus Home software that's calling home to Facebook, not the services.
I come from the future:
After much outcry there will be a way to opt out, which many will believe actually opts you out as if this wasn't a/the major reason for Facebook's billion dollar investment. This will, of course, not really opt you out of everything.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
The device seemed hype and cool and then when it was sold to Facebook, I think it took the wind out of everyones' sails.
Good thing there are other options.
Good thing there are other options.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
The story of Oculus has been (and will continue to be, it seems) a total roller coaster and absolutely fascinating to follow.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
The word Pixels never sounded so scary
Yes that is what they mean. Thay information is extremely valuable. Why are you ok with advertisers paying facebook millions for that information to be taken from you instead of them paying you directly for said info?
Amen. Also, be prepared to always be the bitch of whatever is the VR equivalent of
"Most recent" vs "Top Stories"
I will repeatedly slap the human who decided that at Facebook.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Presumably this could be blocked pretty easily?
HideyoshiJP
Member
I mean, you can take measures. Kaspersky uses an NDIS filter at the network interface for the firewall (like most software firewalls). You can also configure it to block web traffic to specific servers, and since this is at the NIC level, it should stop any Oculus Facebook traffic.
It's something worth looking into, but it makes whitelisting sites you care about a pain, since the NIC doesn't know what site your visiting, just the elements within. There's also the downside of having to trust Kaspersky's certificate if you want to scan https.
timmyp53
Member
Obviously I agree with you about selling the data. What I mean is I think its okay for them to use the data that they get from you looking around inside the virtual space. If it improves software and the effectiveness of the tech.
KojiKnight
Member
Do note, it doesn't say anywhere that they are only looking in your virtual space... and that it runs all the time.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
Sounds like Watch Dogs.But is this honestly a surprise to anyone in this day and age? Your information is never just YOUR information on the internet, it belongs to anyone who has the desire/skills to search/obtain it. This by no means makes what they are doing "right" per say but this is something that is more and more common.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
Well, skipping over the Oculus Rift then.
timmyp53
Member
Wait I thought it was only vive with an exterior cam for room scale... smh
They can't keep getting away with this. Jpg
Codeacious
Banned
This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Facebook has been colloquially referred to for a while as the "big bad" in the tech industry when it comes to gathering, storing, and exploiting user information for profit. It's why they spent so much money on WhatsApp.
Doesn't ghostery, track, store and sell your information too?
Good point. Close the thread, we're done here.