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Texas is ****ing stupid

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Pellham

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WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court refused Monday to consider whether a Texas law making it a crime to promote sex toys shaped like sexual organs is unconstitutional.

An adult bookstore employee in El Paso sued the state after his arrest for showing two undercover officers a device shaped like a penis.

The employee, Ignacio Sergio Acosta, says a Texas law outlawing the manufacture, marketing or dissemination of devices shaped like sex organs is unconstitutional because it prevents individuals from using such devices, violating their right to sexual privacy.

Colorado, Kansas and Louisiana have held such laws unconstitutional, while Georgia, Mississippi and Texas have upheld them, said Acosta's lawyer in urging the Supreme Court to take the case.

An El Paso County court granted Acosta's motion to dismiss a criminal complaint against him, but an appeals court reinstated it, saying the Texas law did not infringe on private sexual behavior.

Acosta also said the Texas law should be examined in light of a U.S. Supreme Court decision that struck down a Texas criminal law banning gay sex as an unconstitutional invasion of privacy.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4231275.html

Crap like this and the story of the comicbook store guy who was arrested because a cop thought Urotsukidoji was obsene (and that's not the stupid part, the stupid part is the jury that refused to declare him not guilty) makes me feel sick that I live in Texas. Isn't there any way to knock some common sense into our legislators?

At least we made progress with the Supreme Court struck down the sodomy law but i'm flabbergasted that they refused to hear this one out since it is such an obvious violation of a genuine human right.
 
MetalAlien

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What's this law based on? Who is being harmed? I am from Texas and I miss it sometimes, but these odd laws seem like that they are designed to win votes from some religous group or something. No one could seriously think a dildo is harmful.
 
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Bezz

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Take that back sir, you dont mess with Texas!

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AlanHemberger

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MetalAlien said:
What's this law based on? Who is being harmed? I am from Texas and I miss it sometimes, but these odd laws seem like that they are designed to win votes from some religous group or something. No one could seriously think a dildo is harmful.
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I agree to an extent.

It just goes to show how ridiculous our state laws are then. We bitch about frivolous federal laws when we have a law banning dildo's. We have social and economic issues that are passed around like hot potatoes, but God forbid a soccer mom buy a plastic dick to stick in her ass.
 
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ShowDog

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You could always move to Quebec like that one guy is... what I gathered from that thread is they have much better nudie bars than us. They even have nudie breakfast joints, and it's shaved!

Edit: Or was it Montreal? I don't know.
 
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GashPrex

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Pellham said:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4231275.html

Crap like this and the story of the comicbook store guy who was arrested because a cop thought Urotsukidoji was obsene (and that's not the stupid part, the stupid part is the jury that refused to declare him not guilty) makes me feel sick that I live in Texas. Isn't there any way to knock some common sense into our legislators?

At least we made progress with the Supreme Court struck down the sodomy law but i'm flabbergasted that they refused to hear this one out since it is such an obvious violation of a genuine human right.
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where is this genuine human right? did I miss the passage in the constitution where you are guareneted the right to have a dildo?

This isn't a judicial issue, this is a legistlative issue
 
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White Man

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GashPrex said:
where is this genuine human right? did I miss the passage in the constitution where you are guareneted the right to have a dildo?

This isn't a judicial issue, this is a legistlative issue
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So what reason is there not to have dildos? I think there has to be a damned good reason if something, anything is banned across the board.
 
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GashPrex

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White Man said:
So what reason is there not to have dildos?
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I dunno, ask the legistlature. Personally, I think its stupid - but this isn't a case for the supreme court - unless you can make a due process argument, there isn't much here for the courts.
 
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Lelielle

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An adult bookstore employee in El Paso, Texas, sued the state after his arrest for showing two undercover officers a device shaped like a penis and telling the female officer the device would arouse and gratify her.

:lol :lol :lol
 
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ShowDog

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Ya it seems a little heavy handed to me when your government feels the NEED to ban people from owning plastic sex toys. What kind of right do they have to determine whether you are entitled to owning something like this or not?
 
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castle007

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instead of buying sex toys, get off your ****ing lazy ass and find a woman/man and sleep with them. how hard can it be??? (not directed at anyone in the thread)

I support texas
 
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LuCkymoON

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I've lived in Texas for awhile now and never knew abut this law. Here in Dallas i guess it just gets ignored. You can walk into any porn store and see all kinds of sex toys and instructions on how to use them. They even have viewing rooms. >_>
 
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RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
castle007 said:
instead of buying sex toys, get off your ****ing lazy ass and find a woman/man and sleep with them. how hard can it be??? (not directed at anyone in the thread)

I support texas
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And for the couples looking to spice up the experience?
Close mindedness for the loss?
 
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scissorfight

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castle007 said:
instead of buying sex toys, get off your ****ing lazy ass and find a woman/man and sleep with them. how hard can it be??? (not directed at anyone in the thread)

I support texas
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that is the dumbest ****ing thing I have ever read
 
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iapetus

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AlanHemberger said:
It just goes to show how ridiculous our state laws are then. We bitch about frivolous federal laws when we have a law banning dildo's.
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Only dildos shaped like sexual organs. A dildo shaped like George W Bush would be completely legal.
 
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argon

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castle007 said:
instead of buying sex toys, get off your ****ing lazy ass and find a woman/man and sleep with them. how hard can it be??
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It shouldn't be very hard to find a willing woman in Texas, since dildos are banned.. right?
 
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C4Lukins

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They sell dildos all over Texas. I have been into porn shops and head shops in Dallas and Austin that have them, and they are out in the open. If this is a law, it is only enforced in certain places. Actually, all the article says is that it is illegal to promote them. So I guess advertising and vocal promotion is illegal. You cannot say, "This is a dildo, I higly recommend it!"
 
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AlanHemberger

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C4Lukins said:
They sell dildos all over Texas. I have been into porn shops and head shops in Dallas and Austin that have them, and they are out in the open. If this is a law, it is only enforced in certain places. Actually, all the article says is that it is illegal to promote them. So I guess advertising and vocal promotion is illegal. You cannot say, "This is a dildo, I reccomend it highly!"
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Which is why all porn shops say 24 Hours News and Video in texas.
 
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C4Lukins

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AlanHemberger said:
Which is why all porn shops say 24 Hours News and Video in texas.
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And why bongs are not labeled "Illegal substance smoking devices." It sounds like people are getting bent out of shape over nothing here.
 
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browds11

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i'm flabbergasted that they refused to hear this one out since it is such an obvious violation of a genuine human right.
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Guh? I’ve read the Ten Commandments, the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, and even the godless communist Declaration of the Rights of Man—and no where in any of them did I ever see sexual perversion and degeneracy labeled as a “human right.”

I’m sorry, you have a right to bear arms, a right to life, liberty and property—but you don’t have the right to be a pervert.

And frankly as a Texan and American you should be pleased that the US Supreme Court upheld its constitutional duty—a rarity these days. The SCOTUS has no power under Article III of the US Constitution to even rule on this case.
 
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Amzin

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C4Lukins said:
They sell dildos all over Texas. I have been into porn shops and head shops in Dallas and Austin that have them, and they are out in the open. If this is a law, it is only enforced in certain places. Actually, all the article says is that it is illegal to promote them. So I guess advertising and vocal promotion is illegal. You cannot say, "This is a dildo, I higly recommend it!"
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Ok, so is it an infringement on free speech, then? It seems stupid that you can buy, own, and use something completely legally but can't talk about it to some interested individuals. I mean, if they were trying to sell one to kids I could see being uppity about it, but talking about it to a person who's old enough and who may be looking for one? Why?
 
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Amzin

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browds11 said:
I’m sorry, you have a right to bear arms, a right to life, liberty and property—but you don’t have the right to be a pervert.
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You totally have the right to be a pervert in your own home. As long as no one can see you. Or hear you. Or, I assume, smell you. Although that last one doesn't come up a lot, thankfully. If you want to be a pervert with someone else who also wants to be a pervert, I think that's still allowed.
 
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Macam

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browds11 said:
I’m sorry, you have a right to bear arms, a right to life, liberty and property—but you don’t have the right to be a pervert.
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A dildo, like your showerhead, is property and, provided you're not hurting anyone with it, pleasuring yourself with it if you cared to, falls under freedom (and/or the the pursuit of happiness). Try again.
 
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Ned Flanders

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browds11 said:
Guh? I’ve read the Ten Commandments, the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, and even the godless communist Declaration of the Rights of Man—and no where in any of them did I ever see sexual perversion and degeneracy labeled as a “human right.”

I’m sorry, you have a right to bear arms, a right to life, liberty and property—but you don’t have the right to be a pervert.

And frankly as a Texan and American you should be pleased that the US Supreme Court upheld its constitutional duty—a rarity these days. The SCOTUS has no power under Article III of the US Constitution to even rule on this case.
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Being perverted IS a liberty, as long as it is not exacted at the expense of another's freedom. F*cking troglodytes like yourself would make it a crime to be a nerd, or a cross-dresser, or a sports fan with ignoramus rationality like "I deed'nt see whur in the consteetushun you err afforded the right to be a Pheelydelphuh Eegles fayn." F*ck off.

Do us all a favor and stay far away from a ballot box or a bar exam.
 
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Fusebox

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C4Lukins said:
They sell dildos all over Texas. I have been into porn shops and head shops in Dallas and Austin that have them, and they are out in the open. If this is a law, it is only enforced in certain places. Actually, all the article says is that it is illegal to promote them. So I guess advertising and vocal promotion is illegal. You cannot say, "This is a dildo, I higly recommend it!"
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But were they dildos shaped like knobs or just your smooth tube variety??
 
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Mandark

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GashPrex said:
where is this genuine human right? did I miss the passage in the constitution where you are guareneted the right to have a dildo?

This isn't a judicial issue, this is a legistlative issue
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Ninth Amendment said:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
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Lots of room for debate on how those rights are determined by the courts. I tend to favor the more expansive view. Unless the government can show a solid social benefit, it shouldn't be regulating sexual pleasure.


PS This and a thousand other things all tie in with "pro-life" politics. People don't talk about abortion as a feminist issue just for shits and giggles.
 
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White Man

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browds11 said:
Guh? I’ve read the Ten Commandments, the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, and even the godless communist Declaration of the Rights of Man—and no where in any of them did I ever see sexual perversion and degeneracy labeled as a “human right.”

I’m sorry, you have a right to bear arms, a right to life, liberty and property—but you don’t have the right to be a pervert.
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Jesus ****ing Christ, are you kidding me?!
 
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browds11

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Macam said:
A dildo, like your showerhead, is property and, provided you're not hurting anyone with it, pleasuring yourself with it if you cared to, falls under freedom (and/or the the pursuit of happiness). Try again.
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You're misunderstanding what a right to property means and turning it into what you want it to mean for the purposes of your argument.

It does not mean you can own anything you want, it means that an individual—not just the state or the local sovereign--can actually own property—that it’s yours and nobody else has any legal claim to it.

Banning the possession of certain items doesn't go against a right to property at all.
 
MetalAlien

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C4Lukins said:
They sell dildos all over Texas. I have been into porn shops and head shops in Dallas and Austin that have them, and they are out in the open. If this is a law, it is only enforced in certain places. Actually, all the article says is that it is illegal to promote them. So I guess advertising and vocal promotion is illegal. You cannot say, "This is a dildo, I higly recommend it!"
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Oh good, because god damn it if I am ever in Texas and I wanna jam a rubber dick up my ass, mother ****er, I better be able to buy one and do it. :lol This is America!!!
 
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Fusebox

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No pun intended, but if you think girls shouldn't be allowed to buzz themselves just because you didn't read it in the bible, then you're a dick.
 
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browds11

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Mandark said:
Lots of room for debate on how those rights are determined by the courts.
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There would be if the courts had any say whatsoever in "determining" rights.

I tend to favor the more expansive view. Unless the government can show a solid social benefit, it shouldn't be regulating sexual pleasure.
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And I tend to favor the facts of the US Constitution--a document completely irrelevant to this issue. This is not a general law, this is a Texas law--and unless it has to do with slavery or a general ballot--the US Constitution has nothing to say on the matter. Which is why the SCOTUS wisely--for once--butt out of it.

PS This and a thousand other things all tie in with "pro-life" politics. People don't talk about abortion as a feminist issue just for shits and giggles.
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Whatever that means.
 
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browds11

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Ned Flanders said:
*cking troglodytes like yourself would make it a crime to be a nerd, or a cross-dresser, or a sports fan
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One of those is not like the others...

with ignoramus rationality like "I deed'nt see whur in the consteetushun you err afforded the right to be a Pheelydelphuh Eegles fayn." F*ck off.
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Well the fact of the matter is the Constitution doesn't afford you the right to be an Eagles fan in Texas. Don't get apoplectic about it, just read the Constitution. The US Constitution isn't some worthless European "Let's put every pet issue we have and codify it in our founding document!" constitution. The US Constitution is a true governing document, a contract with the states outlining the agreed upon powers of the general government.

So don’t look to the Constitution for “rights” look to it if you ever forget which branch of the government can pass bills about tariff policy.
 
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terrene

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browds11 said:
I’m sorry, you have a right to bear arms, a right to life, liberty and property—but you don’t have the right to be a pervert.
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I can't believe GAF's most infamous Libertarian is for dildo restrictions!

Ayn is weeping.
 
Xdrive05

Xdrive05

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Just curious Browds, on what grounds do you justify dildo bans? Isn't it the store owner's prerogative if he or she wants to sell a sex aid device? It's between the owner and the customer, no force or fraud involved.

I don't see why it is the government's job to tell them they can't go through with the transaction.

Also, how do you come off saying that the item in question is "sexual perversion and degeneracy." Aren't those moral abstracts?

And what does the Ten Commandments have to do with anything as this isn't a religion thread and the concept of "rights" have nothing to do with the Ten Commandments outside of Christianity.

Thanks for your time.
 
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