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Latest Nvidia driver seem to break OC on some cards

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Sky87

Member
My card: MSI Gaming X 1070

I installed 378.49 and noticed Debug mode was selected by default with no way to turn off.

http://i.imgur.com/bDbFZUo.png

This means default clocks and all OC is removed. I used DDU and reinstalled the same driver and the same thing was there. I then reinstalled 376.09 and the Debug option was back (non greyed out) and unselected.

My clocks using GPUZ's Render Test:

378.49: 1974mhz on the Core
376.09: 1987mhz on the Core

My card is factory OC with no tinkering done by me, but there may be people out there who have OC'ed theirs. I'm not sure which brands could be affected or if this is just a really bizarre bug.


EDIT: I also noticed that using the PCSS Shadow option on The Division produced huge flickering on the shadows when running the Benchmark. This was also fixed when reverting to 376.09.
 
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Storm360

Member
Thanks for the heads up, just downloaded them but haven't installed yet, guess i'll be keeping the last version for now
 
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UnemployedVillain

Member
It seems every Nvidia driver released in the last year has broken something. They need to either work on their quality control, or fire whatever dev team keep releasing shitty driver code without adequate testing
 
ISee

ISee

Member
Debug mode is also now on for me (msi 1070 gaming x).
No differences on my overclock though (via afterburner, +89mhz core clock and + 765mhz vram clock).

376.09 = 1949+89=2038 mhz core clock
378.49 = 1949+89=2038 mhz core clock
 
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Sky87

Member
ISee said:
Debug mode is also now on for me (msi 1070 gaming x).
No differences on my overclock though (via afterburner, +89mhz core clock and + 765mhz vram clock).

376.09 = 1949+89=2038 mhz core clock
378.49 = 1949+89=2038 mhz core clock
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Strange, it seems the GPU Z Render Tool might not be the most accurate to use then.

Is anyone able to test out The Division Benchmark using PCSS and shadow quality maxed? I got some severe flickering on the shadows on the latest drivers, but fixed when reverting to 376.09.
 
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Mifec

Member
Same here on my strix 1080

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_woLf

Member
Between Nvidia's and EVGA's screw ups lately it's making it hard for me to stay excited for Nvidia cards
 
Coonce

Coonce

Member
just updated my drivers - GTX 980.

debug option is still there and checked, OC works just fine in games, no issues.

pretty sure the debug option checked is a UI bug that isn't affecting clocks.

try running a benchmark and see what your core clock/mem clock does.
 
dr_rus

dr_rus

Member
This is just an UI bug of the CPL, the driver is working fine and the actual GPU clocks are the same as before.
 
Coonce

Coonce

Member
GhostRidah said:
I did that and its still in debug, its the driver.
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ok, mine also has the debug mode checked, but it isn't throttling my overclocks.

just because the debug mode is checked doesn't mean anything.

my last driver version - 376.33 ALSO had it checked.

did you check and see if your overclocks were working in game? was your clock speed being throttled on the new driver?
 
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Head.spawn

Junior Member
"NVIDIA GeForce Game Ready Driver is available"

Lately that has been code-word for, "search neogaf to see whats broken and to avoid it".

Fun times.
 
ISee

ISee

Member
bomblord1 said:
I've only been loosely following this but this seems to be the third thread on an Nvidia driver causing fairly major issues I've seen in the last several months.

What's going on with the green team and drivers? It's starting to look like the old CCC driver problems.
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Legato.Reborn- said:
Did Nvidia drop their QA team?
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Head.spawn said:
"NVIDIA GeForce Game Ready Driver is available"

Lately that has been code-word for, "search neogaf to see whats broken and to avoid it".

Fun times.
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Drivers are just fine. OP just panicked because gpu-z showed incorrect clock speeds. Stuff like that can happen from time to time.

Thread should be closed.
 
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bomblord1

Banned
I've only been loosely following this but this seems to be the third thread on an Nvidia driver causing fairly major issues I've seen in the last several months.

What's going on with the green team and drivers? It's starting to look like the old CCC driver problems.
 
M

Mohasus

Member
UnemployedVillain said:
It seems every Nvidia driver released in the last year has broken something. They need to either work on their quality control, or fire whatever dev team keep releasing shitty driver code without adequate testing
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This is just OP overreacting.

First he says that it breaks OC, then that he doesn't OC his card... err what?

The boost clock for his card is 1797MHz, which is lower than what he has now thanks to Boost 3.0. Boost 3.0 takes in consideration a few factors and then boosts the clock of the GPU, it won't always be the same.

For example, my 970 starts at 1405MHz, but after a few minutes it goes down a step or two (a step means 13MHz) thanks to the heat.
 
SliChillax

SliChillax

Member
No problems here. My 980ti has never never had any problems since I bought it when it came out. I guess I'm very lucky?
 
dr_rus

dr_rus

Member
ISee said:
Drivers are just fine. OP just panicked because gpu-z showed incorrect clock speeds. Stuff like that can happen from time to time.

Thread should be closed.
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But teh drama! and the usual cast of characters steadily notifying us how horrible NV drivers are these days.
 
NeOak

NeOak

Member
dr_rus said:
But teh drama! and the usual cast of characters steadily notifying us how horrible NV drivers are these days.
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You didn't complain when the usual cast of characters notified us of AMD driver fuck ups.

Besides, now that I got a 1070 I'm grateful for the driver heads up.
 
dr_rus

dr_rus

Member
NeOak said:
You didn't complain when the usual cast of characters notified us of AMD driver fuck ups.

Besides, now that I got a 1070 I'm grateful for the driver heads up.
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That's because I being a NV user don't care about AMD driver fuckups and even more - don't really know anything about them. Shocking, is it?

Driver heads up aren't needed. NV drivers are mostly fine. There were like one case in recent years where there was a serious installation issue, the rest are just usual stuff which can be fixed by installing a previous version right on top of the current one. Takes about 1 minute. But teh drama!
 
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Spinifex

Member
Is there an ETA on replacing the nVidia settings UI? It's horrible both in look and function, changing individual settings takes like 10 seconds to apply.
 
joecanada

joecanada

Member
my last update was the one where a bunch of people's including my Geoforce Experience just crashed during install and wouldn't install at all... gone.

Does anyone remember when this one was , what number, and should I do any further updates for now?
 
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jimmypop

Banned
Head.spawn said:
"NVIDIA GeForce Game Ready Driver is available"

Lately that has been code-word for, "search neogaf to see whats broken and to avoid it".

Fun times.
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I generally don't go to NeoGAF for my PC gaming esoterica. This is the place where we hear that keeping a gaming PC maintained is like building and operating a spacecraft.
 
K

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
I have literally never known that the Debug Mode in the NCP exists, let alonw what it does. I've never clicked 'Help'.

Therefore, I have no way of knowing whether that box has always been checked. I'm on 369.02 and the debug is greyed out and checked.
 
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SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
dr_rus said:
But teh drama! and the usual cast of characters steadily notifying us how horrible NV drivers are these days.
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Nothing to see here boys.

http://segmentnext.com/2016/03/07/nvidia-364-47-driver-problems-reported-causing-system-crashes/

http://wccftech.com/nvidias-latest-game-ready-driver-allegedly-killing-gpus-plagued-issues/

http://techreport.com/news/30552/nvidia-squashes-high-refresh-rate-power-bug-with-372-54-driver

http://www.universityherald.com/art...sues-seen-on-geforce-375-86-drivers-video.htm
 
MoogleMan

MoogleMan

Member
_woLf said:
Between Nvidia's and EVGA's screw ups lately it's making it hard for me to stay excited for Nvidia cards
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The whole evga thing was overblown and proven to be a bad batch of caps and nothing to do with thermals. It's the launch PS4 "issues" all over again; evga sells so many cards (just like the PS4) that a bad batch of a component is more likely to be noticed by the masses just by way of the size of the user base (also just like PS4).

I wouldn't let the evga "issue" or the nvidia driver problems dissuade you from looking at nvidia cards; not everyone has these issues, and if you're really worried, there's nothing stopping you from waiting on driver releases until kinks are worked out. I only update my drivers once every month or two. Never any issues.
 
dr_rus

dr_rus

Member
SapientWolf said:
Nothing to see here boys.

http://segmentnext.com/2016/03/07/nvidia-364-47-driver-problems-reported-causing-system-crashes/

http://wccftech.com/nvidias-latest-game-ready-driver-allegedly-killing-gpus-plagued-issues/

http://techreport.com/news/30552/nvidia-squashes-high-refresh-rate-power-bug-with-372-54-driver

http://www.universityherald.com/art...sues-seen-on-geforce-375-86-drivers-video.htm
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The usual suspect has said, people. Trust in WCCFTech in this case, they can't be wrong!

I fully expect people like you to link to this thread in a year to prove that there are oh so many issues with NV's driver. Drama must flow.
 
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