Of Nintendo new play console Wii the hearts of Techniktüftlern let strike more highly. “You is a perfect goal for hackers”, jubilierte Michael steep, head of the Xbox hackers, on Thursday on that 23. Chaos Communication Congress (23C3) in Berlin. Reason for the joy: The Wii is downward-compatibly with its predecessor, the Gamecube, and therefore also two its attack regions inherited. More work is necessary according to steep against it at the Xbox 360, since it concerns thereby a completely closed and thus “crippled” system. In contrast to the first generation of of Microsoft play console the safety-relevant clearly rigged successor withstood so far all crack attempts.

“There are some well-known Hacks for the Gamecube”, described Felix Domke on the 23C3. Since the Wii has a mode with reduced hardware abilities for playing old programs, “we provided a chopping compatibility list”. Seized of it to a variant of the “Action Replay” - attack, with which a copied Disc spends itself as original and reads Schummeleien in. Still more promisingly seems to the safety testers DVD drive assembly chopping in such a way specified.

With the interface, over which the DVD drive assembly with the core of the Gamecube communicates, the hackers found one serial haven and two back doors. First requires a password, which could be found simple according to with computer-assisted trying out Domke and which contained names as well as the words DVD and Game of the nut/mother company of Nintendo. Over this way one received access to the firmware and the RAM memory of the drive assembly, code to implement and the Authentifizierung from DVDs to stop be able, so that rapidly first Modchips appeared to the “Tuning” of the equipment. At the serial haven one has a comparable attack with the second back door to start and so also a micro CONTROLLER to add be able, what brought a second, still higher performance generation out at Modchips.

“They closed the first back door with the Wii”, unkte Domke. “You changed the password over to lower case.” This way one can have copies run thus from software for the Gamecube. With second a new connection part was added, which does not prevent however a playing of copies of Wii software. It is not yet possible to implement on the new NINT DO console provided code.

To create still with difficulty the hypervisor in the Xbox makes 360, which takes over all coding processes and over the system integrity is awake for the hackers. Theoretically arbitrary own code could run also with this beginning, which Microsoft forbids however. “That is one of the best safety systems, which I saw, praised ever” to Domke the Redmonder. It is unfortunate that one can start on the console still no Linux. Microsoft talks itself meanwhile with the fact out that programmers could write against the payment of a license at a value of 99 US Dollar per year plays in C# for the box and they should to be able to sell in the future also over an on-line market place. Therein a “alibi solution” sees steep, with which Microsoft exercises censorship. At the same time the Redmonder could sue potenzielle future Modchip manufacturers more simply, since their auxiliary offers were not used for playing “own” applications.

Sony set up itself with the Playstation 3 outside of the line of fire of the hackers, since for Linux and other software of third of play-hurry separated range of the inserted non removable disk is approved. USB, Bluetooth and Ethernet can be used so fully, the diagram functions reduced. Domke spoke of a “acceptable compromise”, since the hardware was usable for own applications not completely, but nevertheless to a large extent. It gives “few incentives” for hackers, who abzuchecken console on weak points also of the hypervisor which is used into it. (Stefan Krempl)/(thl/c't)

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Tieno said:

In theory communism works! In theory...

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Safe Bet said:

In theory democracy works!

In theory....

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Gaia Theory said:

HOLY SHIT! NO WAY! AWESOME NEWS!! .. .. . . ...

Seriously, who gives a shit? Oh yeah, right, all the pirates and 'importers.'

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Of Nintendo new play console Wii the hearts of Techniktüftlern let strike more highly. “You is a perfect goal for hackers”, jubilierte Michael steep, head of the Xbox hackers, on Thursday on that 23. Chaos Communication Congress (23C3) in Berlin. Reason for the joy: The Wii is downward-compatibly with its predecessor, the Gamecube, and therefore also two its attack regions inherited. More work is necessary according to steep against it at the Xbox 360, since it concerns thereby a completely closed and thus “crippled” system. In contrast to the first generation of of Microsoft play console the safety-relevant clearly rigged successor withstood so far all crack attempts.

“There are some well-known Hacks for the Gamecube”, described Felix Domke on the 23C3. Since the Wii has a mode with reduced hardware abilities for playing old programs, “we provided a chopping compatibility list”. Seized of it to a variant of the “Action Replay” - attack, with which a copied Disc spends itself as original and reads Schummeleien in. Still more promisingly seems to the safety testers DVD drive assembly chopping in such a way specified.

With the interface, over which the DVD drive assembly with the core of the Gamecube communicates, the hackers found one serial haven and two back doors. First requires a password, which could be found simple according to with computer-assisted trying out Domke and which contained names as well as the words DVD and Game of the nut/mother company of Nintendo. Over this way one received access to the firmware and the RAM memory of the drive assembly, code to implement and the Authentifizierung from DVDs to stop be able, so that rapidly first Modchips appeared to the “Tuning” of the equipment. At the serial haven one has a comparable attack with the second back door to start and so also a micro CONTROLLER to add be able, what brought a second, still higher performance generation out at Modchips.

“They closed the first back door with the Wii”, unkte Domke. “You changed the password over to lower case.” This way one can have copies run thus from software for the Gamecube. With second a new connection part was added, which does not prevent however a playing of copies of Wii software. It is not yet possible to implement on the new NINT DO console provided code.

To create still with difficulty the hypervisor in the Xbox makes 360, which takes over all coding processes and over the system integrity is awake for the hackers. Theoretically arbitrary own code could run also with this beginning, which Microsoft forbids however. “That is one of the best safety systems, which I saw, praised ever” to Domke the Redmonder. It is unfortunate that one can start on the console still no Linux. Microsoft talks itself meanwhile with the fact out that programmers could write against the payment of a license at a value of 99 US Dollar per year plays in C# for the box and they should to be able to sell in the future also over an on-line market place. Therein a “alibi solution” sees steep, with which Microsoft exercises censorship. At the same time the Redmonder could sue potenzielle future Modchip manufacturers more simply, since their auxiliary offers were not used for playing “own” applications.

Sony set up itself the bomb with the Playstation 3 outside of the line of fire of the hackers, since for Linux and other software of third of play-hurry separated range of the inserted non removable disk is approved. USB, Bluetooth and Ethernet can be used so fully, the diagram functions reduced. Domke spoke of a “acceptable compromise”, since the hardware was usable for own applications not completely, but nevertheless to a large extent. It gives “few incentives” for hackers, who abzuchecken console on weak points also of the hypervisor which is used into it. (Stefan Krempl)/(thl/c't)

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Mistouze said:

Hope it will give us soon a way to play imports!

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Gaia Theory said:

HOLY SHIT! NO WAY! AWESOME NEWS!! .. .. . . ...

Seriously, who gives a shit? Oh yeah, right, all the pirates and 'importers.'

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Gaia Theory said:

HOLY SHIT! NO WAY! AWESOME NEWS!! .. .. . . ...

Seriously, who gives a shit? Oh yeah, right, all the pirates and 'importers.'

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Dachande said:

Suddenly importers aren't legit? Screw you.

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Easy_G said:

fixed

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Gaia Theory said:

HOLY SHIT! NO WAY! AWESOME NEWS!! .. .. . . ...

Seriously, who gives a shit? Oh yeah, right, all the pirates and 'importers.'

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Dachande said:

Suddenly importers aren't legit? Screw you.

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Wario64 said:

Awesome, time to get a Wii

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Stumpokapow said:

And programmers who would love to make a Wii channel, and web developers who want to get at the innards of Wii Opera, and homebrewers who want to make their NES/SNES/Genesis homebrew available via Virtual Console, and media types who want a Music Library channel and...

Why are you posting in this thread again? If you really don't give a shit, wouldn't you not click on the thread? It's not like the title is sneaky or anything.

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Tieno said:

In theory communism works! In theory...

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Leonsito said:

What about this?

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Speevy said:

I don't get what the big deal is.

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empanada said:

I'm hoping for a media center channel.

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Speevy said:

I don't get what the big deal is.

The PS3, without hacking, does everything this "community" could want right out of the box.

So unless someone just wants a cheaper hackbox I don't get the appeal.

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Juice said:

Uh oh.

After letting the firmware wars completely sap my enjoyment of the PSP, this is one scene I'm deciding to not start following.

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Second said:

VC theoretically PWNED.

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replicashooter said:

Firmware hacks made the PSP what it is.

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_bla_ said:

It looks like the serial port on the drive is still there, and debug mode (just password changed) is still there. GC and Wii Backups are possible and GC Homebrew. Wii Homebrew (and very likely regionfree) isn't yet possible because Wii discs are signed.

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Speevy said:

I would certainly hope not. I doubt hackers want to take credit for the PSP's complete inability to take Nintendo's handheld market, either now or in the future.

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PjotrStroganov said:

Always black or white on gaf, isn't it?

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Dazzyman said:

All your bases belong to us!

Isnt it pointles though with internet connected machines as their always getting updated.

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