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Mario Strikers Charged World Cup approaches final phase!

maxmars

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Hello everybody,

I am here on behalf of the participants of the very first Mario Strikers Charged World Cup here at GAF.

We've kept this in the Online Matchup Forum, but we wanted to give a little exposure both to the tournament and the people who steamr^H^H^H^H^H^H passed the preliminary phase (they deserve it, they're very fine players!)

So far we've discovered that:

* The game does not seem to have obvious exploits. There's no "winning" team or captain. This is very important as it keeps frustration to a minimum.

* There's no rubberband whatsoever. Items seem to be distributed casually and there's no automatic "comeback" feature for the loser. This also means that better players tend to crush less skilled players, but if you are a novice or someone who can't devote his life to the game (like some seem to do), don't despair: there's something cooking also for you. More details as the situation develops, stay tuned.

* People here at GAF are very honorable. We didn't have a single accuse of cheating, disconnection whatsoever and even the few matches which weren't played (due to Real Life) didn't bring any annoying consequence. The person who coldn't be there was defaulted a loss and everything went on just fine.

* The game is frantic, there's a goal opportunity every few seconds, so a comeback is possible until the very end. Mega Strikes are not a factor, they don't unbalance the game. Very few happened during this first phase of the tournament actually.

This all means one thing: if you have the game, or just think about getting it, please do so and join us. You aren't being left behind just because you didn't play it from day one, and you WILL have fun.

As mentioned before, we're trying to come up with something for the less skilled players or those who are returning after a period of absence, a sort of lounge where you can meet, play the other players and then receive precious input to improve your skills.

We're also trying to find a way to broadcast the matches; so far KKG1701 managed to film a few matches, here are them for your viewing pleasure:

Game 1 between kkg1701 (home) and CapnDrake (away)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALNOIa5SXGI

Game 2 between kkg1701 (home) and CapnDrake (away)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=865EGr74ycQ

Game 1 between Kawaii (home) and kkg1701 (away)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubu6838Ya3U

Game 2 between Kawaii (home) and kkg1701 (away)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNGkVfyOL44

Game 3 between Kawaii (home) and kkg1701 (away)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNojzcuCPpA

Enough blabbering, here's the roundup of the preliminary phase, courtesy of Haunted One.

The Final Group Tables:

Group A:
Code:
                  Series     Games      Goals     Points
1. Capndrake        4:1       9:2       30:17       27
2. Haunted One      4:1       8:4       52:20       24 

3. Kawaii           3:2       6:5       19:26       18
4. Fresquito        2:3       5:7       26:20       15
5. Dash Kappei      1:4       3:8       14:29        9
6. Kkg1701          0:5       1:10       6:40        3
Group B:
Code:
                 Series     Games      Goals     Points
1. Tanasten         4:1       8:2       33:8        24
2. MasterMFauli     4:1       8:3       22:15       24

3. Toma             3:2       6:4       28:22       18
4. maxmars          2:3       5:6       17:18       15
5. Nli10            1:4       2:8        7:32        6
6. Wes              0:5       0:10       0:20        0

In good Mario Strikers Charged tradition, there are two trophies awarded after the preliminary rounds:

The Golden Foot award goes to Haunted with 52 goals scored (averaging 4,3 goals per game and 10,4 goals per series).

The Brick Wall award goes to tanasten, who only let 8 goals in (averaging 0,8 goals per game and an amazing 1,6 goals against him per series).


Congratulations. :)

Thanks to everyone who participated so far, this first round seemed to be great fun for all the people I've talked to, with lots of intense and enjoyable games - it really showed how awesome the NeoGAF community can be. Kudos to all! :)

BUT the Cup is far from over - Announcing the four players who advance to the semi-finals to duke it out for the coveted Mario Strikers Charged GAF Cup: CapnDrake and Haunted from Group A; tanasten and MasterMFauli from Group B.

The winners of the respective groups get the home advantage for this round, making the pairings for this week's semi-finals

CapnDrake - MasterMFauli
tanasten - Haunted
 
You lucky European. I never thought that Super Mario Strikers will be this fun. Have to admit I thought Europe is getting the short end of the stick (when compared to SPM for US). Nice OP. I am betting on Capn Drake.
 
Apujanata, if you have the chance have a look at the videos. KK1701 did a great job with them, and they truly show how tight can a match be.

I'd suggest starting with those where Capndrake is playing, as he's one of the best players.
 
aaagghh! this makes the wait for the u.s. version even tougher. i'm sure i'm in the minority, but i would've rather gotten this first than super paper mario.
 
i would love to play in this but i realised i have less time to play games then i want to :( damn you real life!!! *shakes fist*

my record is half decent but i got hammered by the 3rd ranked player 4-0 then 8-0 :(
 
Heh, sweet. I've been having problems with my connection the last week, so I couldn't have two of my three matches. I think I could've made my way into semifinals. Heh, next time I'll do better :)

Mario Strikers is great.
 
Im ready for the next World Cup ! Beware of my catenatio !

Im ranked 15000 or something like that. My last game was against a top 100 player. I lost 0-6 my first game. then i went into full catenatio mode and won 1-0 and 1-0 , both in sudden death.
 
Starchasing said:
Im ready for the next World Cup ! Beware of my catenatio !

Im ranked 15000 or something like that. My last game was against a top 100 player. I lost 0-6 my first game. then i went into full catenatio mode and won 1-0 and 1-0 , both in sudden death.

It's either "catenaccio" or "fellatio", depending on the context. :D
 
maxmars said:
It's either "catenaccio" or "fellatio", depending on the context. :D

Oh, i wasnt sure how to spell it, but i meant football catenaccio, where you play ultra strong defense and pray the gods to score a goal
 
Starchasing, Bo130 and Phife Dawg: don't worry, things are cooking and in a couple of weeks a new cup will start. In the meantime there's this "playground" thing I'd like to start in order to keep people involved, I'll post here when I have setup the thread in the online / matchup forum.
 
I've been enjoying the cup immensely - even if my only win was a default one!

Looking forward to the next one, should be larger with all the extra people having the game.
 
the Tanasten fan club said:
Go tanasten!

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Thanks, I'm ready for the savage party.
 
tanasten said:
Thanks, I'm ready for the savage party.
:lol I won't go down easy, tanasten - I want that tag. >_<


Thanks for the thread, maxmars. It would be awesome if we'd get some additional payers for the next Cup, and increase everyone's friends list. Training by playing some unranked matches to then compete in the Cup at full power. :D

Starchasing said:
where you play ultra strong defense and pray the gods to score a goal
That's the best explanation of catenaccio I've ever heard. :lol


edit: oh, and just for fun - the four players in the semi-finals are from Spain (tanasten), Netherlands (apologies to CapnDrake), and Germany x2 (MFauli, Haunted).
 
Haunted One said:
Thanks for the thread, maxmars. It would be awesome if we'd get some additional payers for the next Cup, and increase everyone's friends list. Training by playing some unranked matches to then compete in the Cup at full power. :D

Yes I think we should both reward skilled players and nurture novices / casuals (me among others) so that we don't run out of people to play with. Online gaming can be a bitch!


Haunted One said:
That's the best explanation of catenaccio I've ever heard. :lol

No no no -- you don't pray to score a goal, you actually wait for the best moment to score a goal, usually after a huge assault that left the opponent breathless. It's like a cold shower. All these years of being exposed to that.. :lol
 
MasterMFauli said:
Oh, winner gets a new tag?
Wow, i need that one then...current one kinda sucks :P

Well, the current one suits you perfectly, as it's been discussed already in the official thread !!!!11!!11!! :lol :lol :lol
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Are we gonna have another tourney later on so us importers can join in on the fun? :(
There should be other tournaments when this one is over. There's too many people that want to join for the tournaments to stop ;) Still, you can share your Mii code to play some friendly games until then.

Just a question, by the way. I still have only 12 friends codes that have been registered... other are still "waiting for connexion". I don't think it's simply that the other people hasn't entered the code, and there was people in the online forum saying it was buggy. Any definite answer on this problem ?
 
Koren said:
Just a question, by the way. I still have only 12 friends codes that have been registered... other are still "waiting for connexion". I don't think it's simply that the other people hasn't entered the code, and there was people in the online forum saying it was buggy. Any definite answer on this problem ?

I had this happen to me (with Toma?) and the only way to make it go away that we've found is being online both at once.
 
maxmars said:
Well, the current one suits you perfectly, as it's been discussed already in the official thread !!!!11!!11!! :lol :lol :lol
oh, that's a brutal joke. :lol


Nuclear Muffin said:
Are we gonna have another tourney later on so us importers can join in on the fun? :(
absolutely! This is only the first Cup we're playing.

Although it still hasn't been confirmed if players from different regions can play together. (or did it and I missed it?)
 
Once again guys, sorry for not being able to take part after signing up. I still haven't been able to set up my Wii but hopefully I'll get to it this week and can still give a few of you some friendly games :)

Good luck in the final stages everyone taking part!!
 
maxmars said:
In the meantime there's this "playground" thing I'd like to start in order to keep people involved, I'll post here when I have setup the thread in the online / matchup forum.
Sounds like a good idea. Some sense of pre-season matches.
 
MasterMFauli said:
What the... :-/

MMF, it's all in good fun. :) You rock! As a poster and as a player!

By the way, everybody please have a look **here**, it's the thread for All the People That Want to Play Mario Strikers Charged Online Together With Other GAFfers.
 
bananabread said:
This game is so fantastic.

As an Aussie, am I going to get raped by lag if I try to participate in the next cup?

Just ping any server here and see what you get... for example 193.145.138.27

i get on average 110 ms
 
Capndrake said:
Netherlands!
*blinks* Of course, you even told me about the dutch store where you bought the game early - my memory's so worthless. sorry. :)

Kawaii said:
Hup Holland Hup!
:lol Good-natured rivalry and all that. >_<

This game is so fantastic.

As an Aussie, am I going to get raped by lag if I try to participate in the next cup?
I don't know, we should try this out. When you have the game, post your friends code in the official Strikers thread in the Online/Matchup forum. We'll add you and try how well the connexion works.
 
bananabread said:
This game is so fantastic.

As an Aussie, am I going to get raped by lag if I try to participate in the next cup?

The only way to find out, is to try. :)

Now go in the matchup forum and exchange your FC with us! :D
 
Haunted One said:
:lol Good-natured rivalry and all that. >_<

You could always remind them that Holland was called "Germania Inferior".. :lol

Although I wouldn't do that BEFORE your (eventual) match with Capndrake. :D
 
Today the first match of the semi-finals took place in The Vice stadium, and we were lucky enough to be there to collect the champions' impressions for you.

The two contestants were:

Capndrake, from the Netherlands, first place in the preliminary phase, Group A

MasterMFauli, from Germany, second place in the preliminary phase, Group B

For the records, the match ended 2-0 in favor of Capndrake (six goals to one in the two games).

Teams were as follows:

Capndrake: Waluigi, Hammer Bro, Monty Mole, Boo

MasterMFauli: Yoshi, Koopa, Birdo, Hammer Bro

Here's what Capndrake wanted to share with us, with regards to strategies:

Capndrake said:
I rely on multiple strategies. If a sidekick is near the goal, I try to pass to him for him to perform his Skillshot. If somebody is near and my sidekick can do an aggressive deke (Hammer Bro, Monty Mole) then I do it, if it's Boo (No aggressive deke) I either pass back or, if I have an item, use the item, then try the Skillshot. If Waluigi gets near the goal and the ball's charge is red or higher, I pass to him and try to get him to teleport into the goal. If he's near a corner and I have items, I pass to him, use items, and try to use a MegaStrike.

While MasterMFauli sticked to the following:

MasterMFauli said:
My main strategy is to high-pass until the ball is white, then pass to anyone who´s within the enemy´s half and shoot. When that doesnt work so well, i change to single-attacks, trying to fast forward with the help of the special abilities of my characters.

The defining moment, in the first match, was as follows in the words of both contestants:

Capndrake said:
MasterMFauli firing off like 10 fully charged shots in a row and the goalie blocking every single one of them.

Now that must have been a sight to behold!

MasterMFauli said:
Drake stopping my high passes. Neraly everytime i tried to pass to someone within his half of the field, the sidekick got fouled and he got the ball. I kept trying this strategy, hoping to get the hang onto choosing more wisely to whom i pass, but it didnt work.

Both players reporting their oppponent's strategy. Interesting, means that they both respected each other, isn't it?

As for second match:

Capndrake said:
The many times I managed to stop his sidekicks just before they pulled off a Skillshot to score.

And:

MasterMFauli said:
Well, i dont want to sound bitter ^^, but the laggy mega-shot ruined it to me. I managed to get 1 goal and think i could´ve won this round (though it´d be hard), but the 5 goals from the mega-shot settled it .

I agree -- it's frustrating when it happens. But, MMF, don't worry: we know you could have made it! All four players passing preliminary phase are quite strong players. Hats off to you (and Capndrake!)

Let's close with blunders. What were yours, Capndrake?

Capndrake said:
Me being slightly off with a Waluigi teleport and teleporting right into the electric fence next to the goal. Earlier on, I also somehow got confused and used my item instead of the deke button when I was right in front of the goal, meaning I could've scored but instead used an item.

Oh well, you pulled off a victory anyway, but what about you, MasterMFauli?

MasterMFauli said:
I regret that i still cant use items properly :P That is, though, because i dont want to use them. when an enemy tries to mega-shoot, and noone frome mine is around, i just smash the item-button, hoping that there is something to stop him. But i just dont care so much about items. ;)

I'm pretty sure that in the next tournament you'll be an items master, MMF!

And now, lights are turning to the other match of these semi-finals, the one between the Spanish steamroller, Tanasten, and the Haunted German. Who will win?! We'll find out soon!

As for now, thanks to both contestants of today match: Capndrake and MasterMFauli, two proud and sportive GAFfers, who spend more time playing than bitching about games (everybody please take notice). Kudos to both of you!
 
maxmars, I have to say that you've done a really awesome job in organizing this entire tournament. Really great stuff.

I forgot to join in on this tournament, but I'll try to be there next time!

Oh btw, I'm supporting CapnDrake and hope he wins! Same country and all. :lol

I like how most of the participating countries are the same as in real life soccer/football btw. :) From what countries are the other participants? I take at least Italy, the UK and France were among them?
 
maxmars said:
Today the first match of the semi-finals took place in The Vice stadium, and we were lucky enough to be there to collect the champions' impressions for you.

[...]

And now, lights are turning to the other match of these semi-finals, the one between the Spanish steamroller, Tanasten, and the Haunted German. Who will win?! We'll find out soon!

As for now, thanks to both contestants of today match: Capndrake and MasterMFauli, two proud and sportive GAFfers, who spend more time playing than bitching about games (everybody please take notice). Kudos to both of you!
:lol that was an awesome write-up, max! You're great at both organising and commenting on the Cup and its games. kudos.
 
bananabread said:
This game is so fantastic.

As an Aussie, am I going to get raped by lag if I try to participate in the next cup?

Nope - just by those four players in the finals :D

R0nn said:
I like how most of the participating countries are the same as in real life soccer/football btw. :) From what countries are the other participants? I take at least Italy, the UK and France were among them?

I represented UK - I'm English/Irish and well, I played a lot more like the Northern Ireland team than anything else. :lol
 
I can't wait for this game..so much talk about it..

Guess I'll play my not imported copy of Super Paper Mario while I wait!!!! :lol
 
Yeah, great job, maxmars! :)

R0nn said:
I like how most of the participating countries are the same as in real life soccer/football btw. :) From what countries are the other participants? I take at least Italy, the UK and France were among them?

I know Denmark will be participating next time :D
 
Starchasing said:
Just ping any server here and see what you get... for example 193.145.138.27

i get on average 110 ms

i get 370ms on average from Australia. I'd be up to swap friend codes with someone in the USA to test the lag. I'm not great, but i'm getting better!
 
After yesterday's match, we've had the thrill of being exposed to the second, and last, semi-finals match.

This was a special game, if one exists, as we had two very prominent players facing. Not that Capndrake and MasterMFauli aren't excellent, but Haunted One was so vocal during the preliminary phase, and Tanasten so provocative (in a good way, see pic above) before matches that you could feel the atmosphere.

The moments before the match weren't devoid of mockery (see this exchange), and I went online during the match, just to stare at the Miis of our champions and the red caption flashing below them: Currently Playing.

It was like being stuck outside of a stadium where you know that a great match is taking place. So frustrating, but also filling me with anticipation of the final score and comments!

But what was cooking inside of them, apart from the outspoken exchanges on the forum?

Well, let's just say that Tanasten wasn't one hundred percent ready, as he is currently building a new life, moving away from the family and the city that saw him go from nino to hidalgo.. Anybody that stepped in his feet before, will know what it feels like. I myself wouldn't want to play with that mood!

Haunted was somewhat electric, as his words will tell you:

Haunted One said:
It was the first knockout game to play in the Cup, so I was a bit nervous before. It didn't help that tanasten 1) played a great first round, 2) beat me soundly in a friendly match a couple weeks before and 3) was pegged by other players as one of the best players and a Tournament favourite - he even has its own fan club!

As for the score, it was all in favor of Haunted One:

tanasten 0 - Haunted 2

with six goals for Tanasten and eight for Haunted.

The teams were as follows:

Tanasten, from Spain, winner of Group B, with Dry Bones as defender, Birdo at left, Boo at right and Bowser as captain.

Haunted One, from Germany, second place in Group A, with Yoshi as captain, Monty Mole and Dry Bones as midfielders, and another Dry Bones as defence.

A few words on the tactics they employed in the match:

Haunted One said:
I usually have two heavy and slow players, but I knew that the key against tanasten was to use quicker and more aggressive players to stop his flow, so I went with two fast, and only one heavy player.

As for scoring, I planned on using Monty Mole as shooter from the distance, and the Dry Bones to move in closer to the goal to create scoring chances. Of course, as the game goes on and the items trickle in, you're forced to make the strategies up on the go, but that's part of what makes Strikers so awesome.

Yes that's true. You don't get "phoned in" items like in Mario Kart.. You could be down five goals and get a measy banana. I know that, it happens to me all the time!

Tanasten said:
Badly for me, I wasn't concentrated enough and I wasn't keeping Boo and Dry Bones in it's defensive points, so Haunted One had free way at the sides and that's what killed me. Also, I was playing fairly like if I was using my real team (meanwhile Haunted was very aggressive, constantly hitting my team mates)

All in all, I think Haunted had an easy win. I was just not ready for the match.

You know what Tanasten? I think that after all the smuck talk, Haunted really feared your celtic fury, hence the pre-emptive heavy play! :lol

I also have the feeling that the next ranked match between you two will see yourself playing more aggressively.. Just a guess, of course. :D

But let's hear from the champs what they observed about their opponents, while frantically trying to score a goal more than him.

Tanasten said:
He did some different tactics trying to score, but the key of the match was it's two Dry Bones at the sides. He could easily cross all the field freely next to the sides and move the ball at his will. Dry Bones were it's more dangerous players too, scoring 3 super shots and ghosting at least one.

To be honest, I wouldn't have thought that Dry Bones could be so good in a forward position. On the other hand, I was out in the first phase and Haunted is a finalist, so what do I know!

Haunted One said:
Before the game, I thought he would try to score with Boo's deke and special shot, which is very hard to defend against, so that was worrying. But in the game, he rarely used Boo to try to score a goal, and I suddenly had to worry a lot more about Bowser and Birdo, his good shooters.

Here's the defining moment for the first match, in their words:

Haunted One said:
The slow and careful beginning evolved into a frenzied match when I foolishly tackled him and he got his first items - it was all-out warfare from that point on.

Tanasten said:
The very slow start absolutely out of place. Both had sud a bad start that looked a newbies game. Was a very violent game too and we rarely could play. I was to win when at the last seconds of the game he scored easily due to the lack of concentration from my part, and then scored easily with a Dry bones super shot. I was very deceived for everything, the way I played and how he scored last goals so easily

See guys? All that talk before the match made you very careful of not being the one to be buried under an avalanche of goals. You should always talk after, not before!

But to be honest, the public really digs an outspoken athlete, so please do not change. :lol

As for the second match:

Haunted One said:
His defensive positioning enabled him to score 2 very quick goals right at the start of the game - he intercepted two balls that came directly from my goalie to score those. >_<

That hurts. Much! But not much enough to knock you down, it seems.

Tanasten said:
Things were going under plan until he found that his dry bones at sides were deadly. I know then that I would lose the game. Seeing him to score 3 goals with dry bones easily made show the white flag. I wansn't in good mood for this.

Next cup is in two weeks, Tanasten.. Please let Telefonica know that they need to hurry!

Well, what else? A little gossip perhaps? Just to cancel that bully talk? :D

More in detail, what would they have said to each other, if Nintendo included a headset with the wiimote?

hmm, so many things for all the different events that happened in the games. Well, the most important one would be 'Thanks for the games!' afterwards.

..and..

You bastard, let my team mates alive. Moreover on the first match. On the second I was like **** those Dry Bones.

I'll let you guess who is the cold blooded German and who's got sangre caliente in his veins. Hmm.. That isn't so hard, now is it?

Before leaving you, in anticipation of the next (and final!) match of the cup, here's a little insight about one game feature: items.

Haunted One said:
(I like the most) The blue shell. Hilarious if it hits several players at once and freezes them in their respective shoot or tackle animations.

Tanasten said:
I don't like items at all. I would disconnect them if I could.

I wonder if it's actually possible?

Tanasten said:
In any case, with GAF tournament team Bowser's fire is my favourite. In my real team turbo toad and Daisy needles are my favourite. Just for the gossip -> every Daisy Needles I got means a goal.

I think we'll all learn that the hard way in the next tourney. Aww! :lol

Anyway, really really thanks guys for the great moments, and for taking the time to answer those questions. Personally this first tournament has been already worth a couple of megatons, in GAF speech, and this is all thanks to you -- winners and losers alike.

So what's next?

The final matches of course!

For the 3rd and 4th place:
Tanasten - MasterMFauli Will another German stop Tanasten?

Trivia: the two were both players in Group B but couldn't play together in the preliminary phase, so this match will settle the dispute over who's the best!

Battling it out for the custom tag, and first place:
Capndrake - Haunted One shadows of the 1974 world cup finals, with Crujiff-Neeskens-Krol playing against Gerd Mueller and Franz Beckenbauer.

That year, the Netherlands (nicknamed "Orange Clockworks" for their ruthlessness) had to knee before Germany, will Capndrake rewrite history?

In the first phase Capndrake won 2-0.. Leonardo would say, "Tristo è lo discepolo che non avanza lo maestro", so will the apprentice pay back his former master?

Let the champs rest a little, as I think the next matches will be very heated. :D
 
nelkon and parker said:
This is excellent! Can we somehow make sure the final is recorded? I would love to see it.

I wish we could! I'm trying to lobby the players to find a way, even if it was something like

Wii --> DVD Recorder / VCR --> TV

and then digitalising the videotape / importing the DVD into a PC and then uploading all into YouTube.
 
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