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RevenantKioku
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Saw the 3D trailer tonight. Lol'd. Looks terribad. What's everyone hotstepping over?
Sapiens
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Lol.
I'm really looking forward to it, even though it does kind of seem like Dancing with Smurfs. I expect the story to be somewhat bland, but with James Cameron, it's all about how he takes you through it.
Plus, I'm always up for groundbreaking effects from ILM and WETA.
Beyond this, I know very little of the film, but it's got that James Cameron vibe which makes me very excited.
I won't be seeing it in 3D, as I have no desire to.
I'm really looking forward to it, even though it does kind of seem like Dancing with Smurfs. I expect the story to be somewhat bland, but with James Cameron, it's all about how he takes you through it.
Plus, I'm always up for groundbreaking effects from ILM and WETA.
Beyond this, I know very little of the film, but it's got that James Cameron vibe which makes me very excited.
I won't be seeing it in 3D, as I have no desire to.
pieatorium
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SPOILERS GOD!duckroll said:
edit damn too early/late i failed at spoiler and bolded instead
RevenantKioku
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It had who I guess is the main dude and chick just yelling at each other about not going forward or something and then floaty "spirits" climbed all over the dude's body.duckroll said:
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I'm personally quite excited for it and I will be seeing it opening weekend in IMAX 3D.
RevenantKioku
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Yeah but like, look at the character designs. Seriously? Can't say I've ever seen a Cameron film. No idea what he made outside of Titanic, so meh. I'll quit shitting on everyone's parade, I guess. :lolHaunted said:
The Take Out Bandit
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Doubledex said:
I don't get this.
Cameron stopped being relevant to my red blooded action loving self when he fucked off to make chick flicks and Discovery Channel specials.
I hope this movie is the Ivan Drago of his career and breaks him.
RevenantKioku said:
For Cameron Sci-fi, watch Aliens, Teminator, and Terminator 2. Three sci-fi movie directed by Cameron. Then come back and let us know wether or not you'll be looking forward to his next sci-fi movie with mother fuckin space marines in mech suits vs. pterodactyls and blue aliens.
People focus too much on the cg and 3d hype and completely forget the fact that this movie is another fuckin sci-fi from Cameron. It's really not that hard to see where the real hype stems from.
Plus, say what you will about Titanic, but it's clear to me and many others that Cameron has mastered the art of action and pacing with that movie. So I'm hoping he continues his great style and pace/direct the action scenes in AVATAR as best as he can. EDIT: To be clear, I'm talking about the pacing of the action scenes. Not the pacing of the movie. Because I hated the Old Rose scenes.
RevenantKioku
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Nope. Not really interested in 'em. (Now, don't go taking that as me trying to make some statement about their quality. 'cause I'm not.Yoboman said:
)I'm not sure where all the hype is coming from either. And I don't like the character designs of the aliens either. But I'm giving Cameron the benefit of the doubt and regardless of wether I like it or not I hope it's successful for him. It's sure to be CG eye candy at least.RevenantKioku said:
pieatorium
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Wow no the pacing was the worst thing about Titanic imo, everything else was good-great but that film could have used some trimming.Bit-Bit said:
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RevenantKioku said:
pieatorium said:
You should have read the rest of my post. "I'm hoping he continues his great style and pace/direct the action scenes in AVATAR as best as he can. EDIT: To be clear, I'm talking about the pacing of the action scenes. Not the pacing of the movie. Because I hated the Old Rose scenes."
The Take Out Bandit
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Calcaneus said:
Yeah, I got everything I needed from Titanic out of the trailer and previously in The Poseidon Adventure.
Did Titanic have Ernest Borgnine? NO!
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RevenantKioku said:Nope. Not really interested in 'em. (Now, don't go taking that as me trying to make some statement about their quality. 'cause I'm not.
WHAT THE WHAT? Sit down and watch them right now. My roommate never saw Terminator 2 because he was "not really interested in 'em" and we sat him down and watched it yesterday on Blu-ray. Now he says it's one of the best films he has ever seen and he is 100x more hyped for Avatar.
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DanielPlainview said:
Why do people assume that because Cameron made good movies a couple decades ago he's in a position to make another good movie? That assumption doesn't work for many directors
I'm not "hating" on Avatar, merely pointing out that it looks like nothing more than a glorified tech demo. The story is tacked on/generic, the art direction is ugly...what exactly am I missing here?
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PhoenixDark said:
James Cameron's nuts on your chin apparently.
PhoenixDark said:
His track record is just that good. There hasn't been any movie from Cameron that has ever sucked, and he's done quite a number of movies, both original productions and sequels. He has made movies across a huge spectrum of genres, ranging from action comedy, to space scifi, to modern day scifi action, to period drama. He has showcased that he has an amazing eye for the camera, and understands how to use both live action characters, cinematography, and cutting edge visual effects to entertain and thrill audiences of all age, gender and interest groups. Something like this cannot be accidental, so there therefore for people who have been following his work, it is no surprise that him tackling a scifi action adventure film set on an alien world using state of the art visual effects is a very enticing prospect.
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PhoenixDark said:
I'm not saying it's a 100% guarantee, but it gives me confidence that there is a director behind it that has made action classics. I just hope Avatar is 1/2 as good as Terminator 2.
Uh oh. I'm watching Aliens right now and I just came to the realization that Avatar might SUCK!
Ok so Aliens and Terminator were fuckin awesome... but do you guys remember Titanic. It was a good movie but there WAS some cheesiness in it... especially the romance part. Now Avatar has romance it seems.... which is okay. But we all forget tha James Cameron is an OLD DUDE now.. and if Speilberg and George Lucas has taught us anything.. old dudes make cheesy ass movies. I hope Cameron hasn't turned into a shitty director like those guys have.. but... it's a possibility guys. Watch out!
Ok so Aliens and Terminator were fuckin awesome... but do you guys remember Titanic. It was a good movie but there WAS some cheesiness in it... especially the romance part. Now Avatar has romance it seems.... which is okay. But we all forget tha James Cameron is an OLD DUDE now.. and if Speilberg and George Lucas has taught us anything.. old dudes make cheesy ass movies. I hope Cameron hasn't turned into a shitty director like those guys have.. but... it's a possibility guys. Watch out!
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duckroll said:It wasn't a circlejerk, trust me. It was just Sculli jerking off in everyone's faces. Some of us were so covered with cum that we couldn't say anything negative in fear that he would stick his dick in our mouths as well.
Was he holding your eyeball open like that one bukkake video I
I admit, I kind of want this movie to not suck; but I'm not counting on anything, and unfortunately nothing I've seen so far has jazzed me.
Bit-Bit said:
I don't know what special place Cameron has with this kind of sci-fi, because as good as Cameron is as a action director and storyteller, he has never really designed a complete world before. That's where most of the negativity is coming from. It's all subjective of course, but I would rather have Ridley Scott set up the world and have Cameron direct the sequel.
Cameron has never really been subtle though. Terminator 2 was basically about a badass punk delinquent kid who hates his caring step parents, and thinks his mom is a psycho loser who got put away. Then he learns to treasure the ones he cares for, ironically, from a killer robot from the future with no emotions. The boy teaches the robot to cry, and the robot teaches the boy to learn respect and to appreciate what he has. Meanwhile many things blow up, there are crazy chases and a kickass action. We even have a moment where an obsessed computer programmer finds out there's more at stake than just his work, and that the big corporation he's working for is actually selfish and evil and framed an innocent woman by hiding evidence so they can further their own money making research which would eventually DESTROY MANKIND. ZOMG.
Seriously, he's not a subtle writer or director. :lol
Seriously, he's not a subtle writer or director. :lol
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