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Elderly Gay Couple Separated, Abused, Robbed By County Officials in California

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cntr

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Elderly Gay Couple Forcibly Separated, Abused, Robbed By County Officials in California
from Slog by Dan Savage
This is shocking and outrageous:
Clay and his partner of 20 years, Harold, lived in California. Clay and Harold made diligent efforts to protect their legal rights, and had their legal paperwork in place—wills, powers of attorney, and medical directives, all naming each other. Harold was 88 years old and in frail medical condition, but still living at home with Clay, 77, who was in good health.

One evening, Harold fell down the front steps of their home and was taken to the hospital. Based on their medical directives alone, Clay should have been consulted in Harold’s care from the first moment. Tragically, county and health care workers instead refused to allow Clay to see Harold in the hospital. The county then ultimately went one step further by isolating the couple from each other, placing the men in separate nursing homes. Ignoring Clay’s significant role in Harold’s life, the county continued to treat Harold like he had no family and went to court seeking the power to make financial decisions on his behalf. Outrageously, the county represented to the judge that Clay was merely Harold’s “roommate.” The court denied their efforts, but did grant the county limited access to one of Harold’s bank accounts to pay for his care.

What happened next is even more chilling: without authority, without determining the value of Clay and Harold’s possessions accumulated over the course of their 20 years together or making any effort to determine which items belonged to whom, the county took everything Harold and Clay owned and auctioned off all of their belongings. Adding further insult to grave injury, the county removed Clay from his home and confined him to a nursing home against his will. The county workers then terminated Clay and Harold's lease and surrendered the home they had shared for many years to the landlord.

Three months after he was hospitalized, Harold died in the nursing home. Because of the county’s actions, Clay missed the final months he should have had with his partner of 20 years. Compounding this tragedy, Clay has literally nothing left of the home he had shared with Harold or the life he was living up until the day that Harold fell, because he has been unable to recover any of his property.​

Clay is now suing the county, the auction company, and the nursing home. This story should get as much attention as Constance McMillen's story. More attention. There should be protests outside the hospital and county administration buildings. And I think another phone call from the president is called for.​
 

SmokyDave

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Grim story.

Some Flip-Flop salesman I once spoke to said to me "SmokyDave, You can judge a society by how they treat their weakest members."

That old man might have been onto something.
 
good! the gays took our jobs!!!!!!

EDIT: sadly i don't think stories like this is going to change anyone's minds about whether it's fair to not discriminate when it comes to marriage and other legal ramifications.
 
yankeeforever2 said:
Thread title is a little over the top.
exactly. Being placed in a home never being allowed to see your loved ones and all your possessions being sold without you or them knowing or having any say in it is merely what I would call an unfortunate string of affairs.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
The people "just doing their job" here should be punished.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Douche-level of your post is a little over the top.
Your douchness is a little over the top, am I saying this is right, no I am not, I'm just think the thread title is over the top compared to what we know.
 

Yaweee

Member
yankeeforever2 said:
Thread title is a little over the top.

It's pretty accurate. They legally separated the partners, forcing them into different homes, held one against his will, and took their their shit without legal consultation. Separated, abused, and robbed.
 
yankeeforever2 said:
Your douchness is a little over the top, am I saying this is right, no I am not, I'm just think the thread title is over the top compared to what we know.

Waaaah, don't call me out for saying stupid shit, waaaah.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Yaweee said:
It's pretty accurate. They legally separated the partners, forcing them into different homes, held one against his will, and took their their shit without legal consultation. Separated, abused, and robbed.


yeah, but for all we know the couple could have been smuggling chinese laborers, thread title shouldn't jump to conclusions!
 

gerg

Member
yankeeforever2 said:
Your douchness is a little over the top, am I saying this is right, no I am not, I'm just think the thread title is over the top compared to what we know.

How is it over the top?

An elderly couple were separated from each other when one was in hospital, their possessions taken without consent by the authorities (hence "stolen", hence "robbed"), and the wishes of both consistently ignored (hence "abused").

Count Dookkake said:
Waaaah, don't point out the stupidity of my failed attempt at backpedaling, waaah.

+1

"Move the fuck on" doesn't stand as a great defence of your position.
 

Forearms

Member
yankeeforever2 said:
Thread title is a little over the top.

I think we should separate you from all you hold dear, take away everything you have, force you to live somewhere you don't want to live, and then see how you feel.

I'm pretty sure you would feel that you were forcibly separated, abused, and robbed.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Waaaah, don't point out the stupidity of my failed attempt at backpedaling, waaah.
..............I am sticking with my over the top opinion, have fun acting fucking 2, k not coming back to this topic.
 
yankeeforever2 said:
..............I am sticking with my over the top opinion, have fun acting fucking 2, k not coming back to this topic.

Waaah, I want to say dumb things and then tell people not to comment on them on a discussion board, waaah.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
yankeeforever2 said:
..............I am sticking with my over the top opinion, have fun acting fucking 2, k not coming back to this topic.


all that and you never had a point to make in the first place?
 

Alcoori

Member
Crazy thing is that all the documents they had were disregarded.

I don't know who's responsible for this shit exactly, but they should pay.

Be it a straight or gay couple, this is just horrible.
 

Dead Man

Member
Fucking hell. What a horrible thing to happen to them. Just fucking terrible.

Edit: Yeah, they were fucked over by many people, surely this is not legal when they had all their documents organised? Not to mention just flat out selling their stuff? How come there are no criminal charges here?
 
yankeeforever2 said:
..............I am sticking with my over the top opinion, have fun acting fucking 2, k not coming back to this topic.
Why? Point out how they were not robbed and abused. You're just factually wrong if you say these things didn't happen.

Abused = to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way:
Robbed = to take something from (someone) by unlawful force or to deprive (someone) of some right or something legally due
 

Odrion

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Really Awful Poster Mocked, Abused, Banned by Moderation Officials on Neogaf.

Back on topic: this is really awful, I can't believe this is taking place in California of all places, jesus.
 
Souldriver said:
Why? Point out how they were not robbed and abused. You're just factually wrong if you say these things didn't happen.

Abused = to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way:
Robbed = to take something from (someone) by unlawful force or to deprive (someone) of some right or something legally due

Waaah, I already left the thread, waaah.

:p

EDIT - Waaah, I was banned, waaah.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Waaah, I already left the thread, waaah.

:p

EDIT - Waaah, I was banned, waaah.
Just noticed it. Shame, I wonder if he'd have answered my post or just have bailed at this point.
 

Einbroch

Banned
Odrion said:
Really Awful Poster Mocked, Abused, Banned by Moderation Officials on Neogaf.
A thread title we can all get behind.

And wow. That's all I can say about this story. It's depressing, heart-wrenching, and inexcusable.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
idahoblue said:
Fucking hell. What a horrible thing to happen to them. Just fucking terrible.

Edit: Yeah, they were fucked over by many people, surely this is not legal when they had all their documents organised? Not to mention just flat out selling their stuff? How come there are no criminal charges here?


how much weight do those documents have when same sex spousal connections aren't acknowledged? I'm really not sure, but I'd guess that led to some of this...
 

Dilly

Banned
This is disgusting.

These things happened in Nazi-Germany, I can't believe it still happens in the 'civilized' societies of today.
 
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