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Hourou Musuko / Wandering Son TV |OT| ~ Gender confusion for tears, not faps ~

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mollipen

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Basic Infos
Start Date: January 13th, 2011
Episodes: TBD (assumed to be 11~12)
Official Site: http://www.houroumusuko.jp
Opening Theme: "Itsu datte" by Daisuke
Ending Theme: "For You" by Rie fu

Creator (manga): Takako Shimura
Association: Noitamina (Fuji TV)
Studio: AIC Classic
Director: Ei Aoki

What is Hourou Musuko about?
Oh, you know, it's your simple tale of a young boy and a young girl as they try to make their way through grade school. They experience those issues we've all dealt with as a child: making friends, being bullied, learning how the world works, wanting to be the opposite sex of what you were born. You know, the basics.

Wait... what?
Okay, okay. Hourou Musuko is the story of two main characters: Shuuichi Nitori (aka "Nitorin") and Yoshino Takatsuki (aka "Takatsuki-kun"). Nitorin was born a boy, but feels in his heart that he was meant to be a girl. Meanwhile, Takatsuki-kun was born a girl, but runs away from the world of sugar and spice due to identifying more with being a boy. Figuring out who you really are as a child is hard enough; immensely more so, as I'm sure you can imagine, when you aren't even sure of your very own gender.

Sooo... this is another one of those boys-in-dresses anime then?
Lord no! In fact, that's one of the qualities that makes Hourou Musuko as engrossing and endearing of a story as it ends up being. In a medium (anime and manga) going through a fetish for "otokonoko" that recently got kicked into overdrive, this is a total breath of fresh air.

Hourou Musuko's characters don't exist to provide set-up for gags, cheap (and over-used) dilemmas to get out of, or fodder for your next wanking session (after which, no doubt, you always convince yourself that you were really doing it to "that other character" and not the girl whose dress hides a special bonus).

The power of Hourou Musuko is that, as unrealistic as its world can sometimes be - let's face it, children dealing with these kinds of issues wouldn't have it as easy as Nitorin and Takatsuki-kun do - the emotion behind the characters, their feelings, their hopes and dreams, and their desire to simply find a place in the world in which they feel they can belong, has a reality to it that is at times shocking. Even beyond every other element that Hourou Musuko puts forward during its run, Nitorin and Takatsuki-kun quickly become amazingly powerful yet sympathetic character, characters that - no matter if you can directly relate to them or not - you want to see end up happy. Except, this isn't your typical anime series where solutions are assured, and a moment of light-hearted fun can suddenly turn into crushing heartbreak. Not from death, or divorce, or other familiar sources of struggle and strife, but from a simple facial expression, or a few words, or the reaction of another character.

One of the panels from the manga that I can never forget is a scene where, looking into a mirror, Nitorin holds a girl's outfit up to himself, as if to imagine that he were wearing it. In most other titles, it would be a brief scene that comes and goes with little notice, but here - as you see the look on Nitorin's face, and understand how much he hurts inside as he imagines a world he so desperately wants to belong to but feels like he never can - it's a scene that, if you've come to care at all for Nitorin as a character (and you will), it'll hit you like a sledgehammer to your heart.

Do I have to care about transgender issues to enjoy Hourou Musuko?
No, absolutely not. While questions of gender and the roles certain characters fit into in that regard are central to the story, the core of Hourou Musuko is the characters themselves and the struggles they are going through. If you yourself deal with any such gender issues, then it is a story that can both be uplifting and cruel as it reminds you of your own struggles. If you're just looking for a deeply emotional drama that actually gives a damn about creating characters worth caring about and storylines you hope to see resolved, then you'll get more than your fill here.

How far will the anime version go in relation to the manga version?
Unsure. The manga series is currently up to eleven full volumes with the beginning chapters of a twelfth already released.

Should I still read the manga even after watching the anime series?
Yes! Please! The manga is utterly fantastic, and no doubt there will be some changes between it and the anime version. As well, as beautiful as the anime is looking, Takako Shimura's art for the manga series is something worthy of appreciation. As of now, there are fan resources for reading the Japanese-released chapters, but an official English release has been announced by Fantagraphics Books which will be starting in March of this year. The English release should absolutely be supported as a show of thanks to Fantagraphics for taking a chance on the series.

Why does the name Takako Shimura sound familiar?
She is a manga artist known for tackling LGBT-related topics, most notably (and probably where you'd know her from) the manga and anime series Aoi Hana.

Is it Hourou Musuko or Wandering Son?
Wandering Son is the English translation of the Japanese name, and the official name used for English releases of the anime/manga. I know a lot of people around here have set on calling it Wandering Son all of the time, but when I got into the series, I knew it as "Hourou Musuko", that's what I always called it, so god-dammit, that's what you're going to see me use.

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Crunchyroll will be showing episodes of Hourou Musuko via their official page for the series. From what I can understand (being a person who has heard of the site but never uses it), looks like if you have an account at the level where you get to view videos in "Prerelease", you'll get to see new episodes about an hour and a half or so after they air on Japanese TV. For everybody else, you'll get the episode a week later when the next prerelease episode hits.

Crunchyroll: Wandering Son

Prerelease: Thursday, January 13th at 10:00am PST (and then every week following)
Standard: Thursday, January 20th at 10:00aam PST (and then every week following)

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Preview Videos
PV 01: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIENMGq6H5U
PV 02: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pejectC1SVU
PV 03: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMqrs6SvV8

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orioto

Good Art™
Oh wow, a thread on a particular anime serie! There is hope then ?
I've kinda drop the ball on anime since.. 96.. I didn't feel there was any kind of mature and original alternative after evangelion. It seemed to me that 96 was a special era with late anime serie for adult (not porn i mean) and all that, but the industry came back to something more commercial after that.

I probably missed a lot actually!
 
orioto said:
Oh wow, a thread on a particular anime serie! There is hope then ?
I've kinda drop the ball on anime since.. 96.. I didn't feel there was any kind of mature and original alternative after evangelion. It seemed to me that 96 was a special era with late anime serie for adult (not porn i mean) and all that, but the industry came back to something more commercial after that.

I probably missed a lot actually!

There was actually a bunch of specific anime threads last season.

And yeah, if the last time you watched anime was 96, you missed A LOT.
 

tiff

Banned
Excellent job on the OP :)

Show looks pretty stunning, and seems to be an mature look on an issue I care greatly about. I'm definitely looking forward to this.
 

kiunchbb

www.dictionary.com
It is an interesting subject, I read the manga but did not found it to be fresh or exciting.

The story did make you want to find out how the characters will develop, and how each character will change as they grow up and meet new people.

It will be a great slice of life anime, as long as you don't expect anything else from it, you will enjoy the show.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Please don't screw this up please don't screw this up please don't screw this up please don't screw this up
 

orioto

Good Art™
cosmicblizzard said:
There was actually a bunch of specific anime threads last season.

And yeah, if the last time you watched anime was 96, you missed A LOT.

Well, i saw the naruto serie but i'm bored now, i saw Hale nochi guu which i loved, some episodes of GitS wich seems good...


Yeah i should catch up! I should at least try to see Kareshi Kanojo no Jijyou for Sagisu and Anno's work!
 

mollipen

Member
cosmicblizzard said:
Still think this is being overhyped, but I'll watch it nonetheless.

Are you saying this having read the manga or not having read the manga?



icarus-daedelus said:
Wandering Son looks good, albeit shiny. Shiny white spots in hair are to Hourou Musuko as random horrible glare was to Star Trek 2009.

Why did you say this? Now I can't un-see it!
 

Jikagi

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I haven't read the manga or know anything about this show but with the amount of hype that it has I'll probably watch it.
 

Lafiel

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Definitely looking forward to this; i read the first volume of the manga, and it was really good. My only concern about this adaptation is it will most likely only be 13 or 11 episodes in length, which doesn't feel like the right length for a character-driven show like this. Especially since the manga has around 11 volumes or so.
 
Lafiel said:
Definitely looking forward to this; i read the first volume of the manga, and it was really good. My only concern about this adaptation is it will most likely only be 13 or 11 episodes in length, which doesn't feel like the right length for a character-driven show like this. Especially since the manga has around 11 volumes or so.
This will totally get a second season, just like Aoi Hana.
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Platy

Member
A friend sended me the link to some scanlations of the manga last year .... and i can say that i'm insanely hyped =D
and with the same amount of fear of a crap adaptation
 

Articalys

Member
It would be nice if more series had this level of fan devotion.
I remember reading the first couple chapters or so a while ago; doesn't strongly appeal to me personally but I'm glad you've all found something to be excited about.
 

trejo

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I can't see myself identifying with the premise but I'll still check it out for the supposedly well-realized characters. Hopefully it'll live up to the hype.
 
shidoshi said:
Are you saying this having read the manga or not having read the manga?

Like 8 chapters half a year ago. Don't remember much. I just don't find the subject matter that interesting. I'm more interested about the art style in this than the actual story but that alone won't hold m interest and I hope I do end up liking it for the plot/characters.
 

mollipen

Member
cosmicblizzard said:
Like 8 chapters half a year ago. Don't remember much. I just don't find the subject matter that interesting. I'm more interested about the art style in this than the actual story but that alone won't hold m interest and I hope I do end up liking it for the plot/characters.

Well, I think the reason it gets the "hype" that it does is that it's one of the few (at least from the ones I've seen) anime/manga titles to actually give a damn about taking a worthwhile look at the transgender issue and characters that fall into those roles. Because of that, it's a serious drama about characters that it's very easy to end up caring about.

Sure, it's a topic that one might not care about at all, and if not, it could be hard to appreciate. But, really; in an industry that loves to do nothing but treat the topic as either a fetish or source of comedy, I'm sure you can understand why many think Hourou is pretty special.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I like the manga because it is a good example of what the medium is capable of, should anyone try to exploit it, and a very good subversion of typical manga fare.

Also for all the reasons shidoshi listed.
 

Jex

Member
Very nice thread.

My hope is invested in these shiny headed folks. Let this be a good anime.
 

notworksafe

Member
Too washed out and shiny dome hair everywhere. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy the show as the premise sounds interesting and I plan to watch a few episodes to see how I like it.

Perhaps "awful" was a bit harsh, but I just dislike the look of the art.

EDIT: I suppose it's also that since I don't know much about the story or tone of the show I can't judge if it matches the art. Another reason to watch a few episodes...
 

Zalasta

Member
I was just despairing the fact that I haven't been interested in anime for the past 3 seasons. This definitely looks like a good departure from the usual generic crap. Thanks for the heads up (going to check YesAsia to see if the manga is available in Chinese).
 

Nishastra

Banned
Watched the first episode. It does indeed skip a good bit of the manga, so it's kind of straight into it without much of an intro.

I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not for someone who hasn't already read it. It'd probably be a bit confusing.

Anyway, I'll certainly be watching it.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Nyergh, not a good starting point.

I hope I'm proven wrong when i watch it. (the beginning chapters were kind of slow although that was the point really)
 

mollipen

Member
Hmm. Hearing this is concerning me a bit, because it seems the show is going to focus more on the "typical drama" elements of the manga and less on the "coming to terms with gender drama" elements of the manga.

But, it's really unfair of me to decide anything before I've had a chance to actually see the episode, which I really hope I can do ASAP.
 

Nishastra

Banned
Thinking about it some more, it'd probably be more than just a bit confusing for someone who didn't already know what's going on :p

The first episode is all over the place, trying to vaguely mention everything important that happened before the start without actually doing a "here's the story so far" type deal. Hopefully it calms down in subsequent episodes.
 
shidoshi said:
Hmm. Hearing this is concerning me a bit, because it seems the show is going to focus more on the "typical drama" elements of the manga and less on the "coming to terms with gender drama" elements of the manga.

But, it's really unfair of me to decide anything before I've had a chance to actually see the episode, which I really hope I can do ASAP.
:( I hope that they are not skirting the issue. It doesn't help that AIC Classic doesn't exactly have a history of shows without pandering. I am starting to wish that JC Staff was doing this. :(

I think their recent productions need to be summed up in picture form. These are all from 2010.
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drkOne

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shidoshi said:
Sooo... this is another one of those boys-in-dresses anime then?
Lord no!
It was weird, but I read until this part and was like "SOLD!".
I'm afraid of how easy it is to manipulate me :(
 
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