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This is live journal material but deal with it. I choose to post here because GAF still manage to provide helpfull comment among all the bad jokes.

So here's my story: at 13, I was diagnosed with heart problem and potential cardiac dysrhythmia. To prevent that, I was put under a treatment that block my heart to beat fast to avoid drum solo in my chest and the resulting fibrillation.. Of course, that meant the end of all physical activities. It was a shock because I was doing lot of sports and I was enjoying running arround like any kid. Of course, my entire world collapsed when the news hit me.

But I'm passed that now. I've growned up, I've managed to get used to that and I live an almost normal life. I can drink, I can have sex, I just can't get too physical (carry heavy stuff, run...) because my body isn't trained and my heart can't follow. I have stable condition for now 8 years.

A couple of month back, I've complained about severe degradation of my physical capacities, mostly because of pain in the heart during basic and daily physical activities. I got through a lot of test and the docs said: obstructions in the heart. Intervention needed ASAP. I was on the table early Mars. I've been through an operation that is no surgery. They just injected alcohol in the very location of the obstructions so it could necrose the tissues. I was awake and I could feel the 25 CC of alcohol in the heart. Remember Pulp Fiction's adrenaline needle in the chest scene ? You get the feeling. Right after the adrenaline spike, you get the storm of fire raging in your chest. Doesn't feel good man.

Intervention went fine. I was put (still fully conscious, dealing with the fire melting my heart and lungs) in recovery room. 30 to 40 minutes after, I saw the roof flying away. Litteraly. Something was going wrong. 1/10 of a second after that I check my Beat Per Minutes monitor that started screaming while displaying my BPM skyrocketting: 60, 80, 120, 160, 200, 250, 300...

I remember feeling heavy, unable to move nor feel arms, legs, or anything. I saw a shit load of docs over the bed. Then I heard " We're loosing him " before seeing the defibrilation panels in the hands of a doctress. I was like " I'm fine, no need for that ! " but I couldn't say a word and I probably ended up moaning something instead. I lost sight of the panels because they were on my chest and I heard " CLEAR " before an almighty force striked my body, shattering my muscles and lifting me over the bed. I was so crisped that I could not even feel the pain and I felt back on the bed like a dead piece of meat. I've been drug after that shock and I passed out.

I remember a black space. It was warm and felt confortable. Very like the sensation of waking up in bed after a good sleep. I was fine. Then the black space turned out to be a tunnel full of pictures but there was none I could relate to my life. There was no light at the end, just pictures everywhere. Then, a light broke out from behind the wall of pictures, hit me like a lighning bolt and drag me into where it came from and when I hit the wall of picture, I saw a celling and understood it was another defibrilation shock but I was in another room. I felt intense pain again and understood that I wasn't out of trouble yet.

I woke up later. They told me 24 hours passed since the accident. I've made two incredibly sever fibrillations resulting " arrhythmic storm ". They shocked me 10 times to stop the first one. Transfered me to Intensive Care. Minutes later, I've done another fibrillation and I got 3 more shocks. My heart simply stoped. They hand massage me in low flow for more than 5 fucking minutes to get it back on.

Medical procedure says that after 6 minutes without blood, it's over for the brain so they give up. For 30 seconds or so, of a dedicated doc that fought for me, I live. Did he had a watch ? A timer ? Would he had stopped at 6:00 ? I can't fucking believe I was less than a minute to be dead.

After that, they put me under full life assistance for 24 hours.

I stayed a week in intensive care, with tons of shit going in and out of me, with defibrillation panels on me in case of any problem, ready to be remotely activated from anywhere in the ward. My heart has been a good boy and they let me out after 6 days.

I stayed home 2 weeks and now I'm back to school. I knew social reinsertion would be hard. I could imagine depression striking me. I enjoy being around with friends, now more than ever, but I can't stand them for long. After a couple of hours, I just want to be alone. How to deal with that ? It's like I'm into a very serious depression, but only half of the time: when I'm being alone.

I have no new treatment or recommandation since I left hospital. They just throw me out of the intensive care like nothing happened. " Hey, you got 13 shocks, you had a 5 min long heart failure, but it's okay now, it's been 7 days. Go back to your life ! "

The head doc isn't helping much. She advises to make something good about this experience. But I was less than a minute close to being 6 feet underground and dead for 5 minutes. How can you imagine being able to with that at 21 ?
 
I don't know... for me, that would make life easier to life, not harder. I know some people will say "it's just the brain doing stupid stuff before you die", but having an experience like that would give me far more hope that there is something more to all of this than just what our physical bodies can drag us through.

You almost died, but you didn't. You get you live more of your life, and you have a cool story to tell at parties. I guess I'm not sure where your problems coping with it all are coming from exactly.
 
Wow, OP, that sounds like a hell of a lot to go through. Glad to hear though that you are back to living life now. Enjoy it and if you are feeling depressed, continue to seek help from the head doc.

NDE!
 
First off, that's a hell of an experience. I'm sorry that you had to go through it, and I hope it doesn't happen again for a long time.

Second, you said:
I enjoy being around with friends, now more than ever, but I can't stand them for long.

What do you feel when you're around them too long?
 
Doctress?
doctress.jpg
 
Something similar happened to me a few months ago where my heart just completely failed me. My experience is a bit different, though, since I wasn't awake for any of it. One minute I was at home. The next, I was in the hospital and a week has passed.

Don't really have any advice for dealing with the aftermath. I guess the weirdest part is that I feel like I should have some sort of epiphany, but everything is just too normal. Though, it is somewhat comforting that the incident don't need to permanently change anything. You do have a "get out of jail free" card for EVERYTHING that happens the next couple months. However, I think you'll feel better once everyone go back to treating you the way they did before.
 
Amazing story, glad youre ok man.

Id just give it some more time, its still too soon for you to feel "ok" again.
 
That's intense and deeply traumatic, and if you're not satisfied with the help you're receiving from your therapist, you should look for a different one. The hospital ships you out when you're physically well again because hospitals aren't for emotional therapy.

I don't think there's much we can offer here besides our sympathy for the trauma you endured, and to encourage you to continue seeking the best professional help until you find it. Don't feel like it's something you should be expected to work through on your own.
 
shidoshi said:
I don't know... for me, that would make life easier to life, not harder. I know some people will say "it's just the brain doing stupid stuff before you die", but having an experience like that would give me far more hope that there is something more to all of this than just what our physical bodies can drag us through.

You almost died, but you didn't. You get you live more of your life, and you have a cool story to tell at parties. I guess I'm not sure where your problems coping with it all are coming from exactly.

I feel like I missed most of the experience. I got 13 shocks but I can remember only one. I'm not complaining or anything, it's just that my body endure it, but I just can't remember it. I've been told afterward. Like I missed my own show.

I've walked out the hospital full of pride, walking again, being able to do stuff on my own. I'm still very weak and can't really go to parties... And even so, I don't think I'll wear a shirt with " I was dead for 5 minutes " and try to heat on girls with this story... But maybe the care factor can work on some girls... Oh well...

Clydefrog said:
Wow, OP, that sounds like a hell of a lot to go through. Glad to hear though that you are back to living life now. Enjoy it and if you are feeling depressed, continue to seek help from the head doc.

NDE!

It's still hard to remember but the most painfull thing is the random flash of the accident, the sensations, the sounds... Feels like you can't escape your past and it's a constant reminders of that it can happens again, even if it actually cannot...

Life seems so good at times, since the accident. Every little things that are good can't stop amazing me. I caught myself enjoying things far more than I should or would before. Feels great. Feels like being a kid all over again.

I'm going to see the head doc again, for some times I guess. She's specialized in post-accident therapy and she's the best head doc I've met. She's actually feeding engaging conversations. Probably the first head doc I feels confortable with.

NDE ?

Fireye said:
What do you feel when you're around them too long?

Boredom. I wasn't into cheap talks before my accident, but when I'm hanging out with my friends, they are talking about their girlfriends silly and meaningless issues, their fight for details, and everything. Everything seems so dull and uninteresting. I've always been like that but I feel like I've radicalised since the accident. Their life weren't really awesome to begin with, but I was okay with that. Now I that I've live my probably most intense and enduring experience in life, I feel like I've lived, seen, though of things they could never imagine.

But I can't blame them for that and I feel sad a lonely because I can't talk to them about this. I would sound like a douch or a prick. " you can't understand how I feel " kind of thing... I know the problem is me here, and I'm struggling dealing with it. As I can't see options in the boredom, I isolate myself and everything is fine again when I dive into my lonely bubble of depressed boy.


SnakeswithLasers said:
Doctress?
doctress.jpg

Sorry. I got confused and adapted the word. In french, you said doctoresse...

Goldrush said:
Something similar happened to me a few months ago where my heart just completely failed me. My experience is a bit different, though, since I wasn't awake for any of it. One minute I was at home. The next, I was in the hospital and a week has passed.

Don't really have any advice for dealing with the aftermath. I guess the weirdest part is that I feel like I should have some sort of epiphany, but everything is just too normal. Though, it is somewhat comforting that the incident don't need to permanently change anything. You do have a "get out of jail free" card for EVERYTHING that happens the next couple months. However, I think you'll feel better once everyone go back to treating you the way they did before.

You didn't have any heart related record before that ? Any problem in the family ? How old are you ? Waking up a week later seems so long... Why so long ? Forced sleep due to your condition ? Where you stable after your accident or not ? (That would explain why you were out for a week) How did your family hold during this time ?

I don't really understand the "get out of jail free" card thing. It's a reference to Monopoly but I don't get your analogy, sorry...

I want things to be normal again, so I want people to stop worrying about me for every stairs I climb, but on the other hand, I like people taking care of me, asking me how I do. I'm sound like an attention whore but I'm not. I just struggle to deal with what happens to me and the heavy psychological consequences against the physical ones that are healing very fast. I fear that once I got full recovery, everybody will fortget and act like nothing happened.
 
UnluckyKate said:

Sorry, there was another thread recently about near death experiences. The OP, instead of writing out “near death experience” just wrote NDE and everyone was confused.
 
You don't want people to forget? I had a major surgery when I was younger (although not near as intense as your ordeal). For a few years after, I told everyone that I had a surgery and showed them scars and such. Eventually, I got tired of my surgery defining me, so I just stopped telling people. You can be so much more than your heart condition.
 
Well, I know what you're talking about. I can't share my experience and I'm not sure if you can take my advice but... well, live peacefully. You'll never be the same. You can choose to play along with people or not - it's your choice. But remember we all are parts of society and getting away from people won't make your heart feel better. I guess you can find a lot of things not interesting now and you may feel that there's too much useless bullshit around but that's not the point.

Honestly I can't give you any other advice other than live peacefully. People who touched death have seen more than others and therefore they are different. It's as simple as that. Don't think about it, just live according to new rules and enjoy your life. Other people don't appreciate it as much as you can.
 
UnluckyKate said:
Boredom. I wasn't into cheap talks before my accident, but when I'm hanging out with my friends, they are talking about their girlfriends silly and meaningless issues, their fight for details, and everything. Everything seems so dull and uninteresting.
This isn't really helpful if you really want to re-integrate, but I just wanted to say that I feel the exact same way and I've never been through anything like you have. Some people are just like that.
 
Copernicus said:
wth is NDE?
smh

Since you are attending school, perhaps you could see about talking to a counselor? You should talk to someone. Other than the depression, are you having any anxiety issues?
shidoshi said:
You almost died, but you didn't. You get you live more of your life, and you have a cool story to tell at parties. I guess I'm not sure where your problems coping with it all are coming from exactly.
PTSD
Acute stress reaction

The brain just doesn't walk away from trauma unscathed, it's not supposed to. UnluckyKate, I'm not trying to diagnose you. Speak to a doctor if you are really concerned.
 
Man that sucks that that had to happen, but that is an amazing story.

I would try and get a very good therapist that can help you with dealing with the experience you had and the future of your life. Even just to be able to say what you are feeling out loud can help.
 
shidoshi said:
I don't know... for me, that would make life easier to life, not harder. I know some people will say "it's just the brain doing stupid stuff before you die", but having an experience like that would give me far more hope that there is something more to all of this than just what our physical bodies can drag us through.

You almost died, but you didn't. You get you live more of your life, and you have a cool story to tell at parties. I guess I'm not sure where your problems coping with it all are coming from exactly.

It's probably just the psychological trauma. If I had been through something like that there would probably be times where I would want my friends to just leave me alone, if I hadn't had time to come to grips with the reality of what just happened yet.

I mean your friends are still living the lives they had, but yours has changed. You're a different person now, and you feel different from everyone else around you because of what you've been through, I suppose.
 
If they just released you like nothing happened, perhaps you need new doctors? Get some second opinions to see what actually happened so it doesn't happen again, or you can at least know what your risk it.
 
subversus said:
Well, I know what you're talking about. I can't share my experience and I'm not sure if you can take my advice but... well, live peacefully. You'll never be the same. You can choose to play along with people or not - it's your choice. But remember we all are parts of society and getting away from people won't make your heart feel better. I guess you can find a lot of things not interesting now and you may feel that there's too much useless bullshit around but that's not the point.

Honestly I can't give you any other advice other that leave peacefully. People who touched death have seen more than others and therefore they are different. It's as simple as that. Don't think about it, just live according to new rules and enjoy your life. Other people don't appreciate it as much as you can.

I understand you cant share it, but if you ever could I would love to hear it. These things you guys went through really help add perspective and appreciation to the lives of those of us who haven't.
 
SalsaShark said:
Amazing story, glad youre ok man.

Id just give it some more time, its still too soon for you to feel "ok" again.

I guess so... I though everything would be okay as soon as I walked out of the hospital, but it got worste in fact. Social reinsertion was ahead, just waiting to slap me in the face for thinking that I could go better so fast after all this.

Time is a huge part of this. I know that now. I just don't like it and have trouble accepting it.

Joe Shlabotnik said:
That's intense and deeply traumatic, and if you're not satisfied with the help you're receiving from your therapist, you should look for a different one. The hospital ships you out when you're physically well again because hospitals aren't for emotional therapy.

I don't think there's much we can offer here besides our sympathy for the trauma you endured, and to encourage you to continue seeking the best professional help until you find it. Don't feel like it's something you should be expected to work through on your own.

I'm not satisfied with the head doc because I never really trust any nor believe in their work. But in fact, this one is way better than any head doc I've met. I actually enjoy the session even if I don't really know what am I seeking. I guess I need help, but I don't know what form of help I must look for. I'm not used to ask for help so I'm a bit lost here. What to do ? I guess talking in the first step. Talking to people about my problem is a huge workout for me. Internet is easier. People respond if they care. In real life, people who are not interested/who doesn't have anything to say needs to fill the blank and the conversation feels awkward very fast.

JCX said:
You don't want people to forget? I had a major surgery when I was younger (although not near as intense as your ordeal). For a few years after, I told everyone that I had a surgery and showed them scars and such. Eventually, I got tired of my surgery defining me, so I just stopped telling people. You can be so much more than your heart condition.

That's the most interesting thing I've read so far. I'm not sure if I agree with you: my heart condition is part of me. It's a huge deal in my life: it rules the way I live, the things I can do, it affects my interests and my hobbies. I can't totally hide it from others. I can talk about my condition but not mentioning the accident. I don't have the big ass scar across the chest so no one can notice it from outside. I can go with that.

It's a very interesting idea you gave. I'll think about it for sure. Thank you.

Tijnisch said:
Good to hear you're OK now. Did it give you a new perspective on anything?

Not so much. I cancelled all my activities on the medium to long terms (even if I don't plan months in advance) and I'm pretty much living week after week, trying to get goals and objectives day after day. I can be anything: a movie coming out, meeting with a friend... Now it's getting my new glasses. Pretty excited about this. Too much sun, I need my new polarized glasses !

subversus said:
Well, I know what you're talking about. I can't share my experience and I'm not sure if you can take my advice but... well, live peacefully. You'll never be the same. You can choose to play along with people or not - it's your choice. But remember we all are parts of society and getting away from people won't make your heart feel better. I guess you can find a lot of things not interesting now and you may feel that there's too much useless bullshit around but that's not the point.

Honestly I can't give you any other advice other than live peacefully. People who touched death have seen more than others and therefore they are different. It's as simple as that. Don't think about it, just live according to new rules and enjoy your life. Other people don't appreciate it as much as you can.

I do live peacefully now. I'm super careful because I still feel weak. I'm not drinking alcohol for a couple of month (even if it's not restricted, I just don't feel too... I had enough of 25 CC of pure alcohol into the heart). I'll try to live and appreciate as much as I can, but it's hard to not think about it. I can feel my heart when I walk for a couple of minutes.

ninj4junpei said:
smh

Since you are attending school, perhaps you could see about talking to a counselor? You should talk to someone. Other than the depression, are you having any anxiety issues?

PTSD
Acute stress reaction

The brain just doesn't walk away from trauma unscathed, it's not supposed to. UnluckyKate, I'm not trying to diagnose you. Speak to a doctor if you are really concerned.

My school suck ass. I reached my director and made him aware of the intervention and then the accident. He forward the documents to my study director who didn't lift a finger and no one in the school (my teachers, my classmates, the administration) were aware of my condition. Anxiety ? No.

The brain doesn't walk away from trauma ? That's sound fair enough. I suffer from no neurological disorder (how lucky is that, after no blood irrigation in the brain for 5 minutes?) nor motion disorder from the same thing. I don't know about trauma. I don't feel like I'm through a unusual post-accident thing. I think I'm just going through the logical near death aftermath. Question about value of life ? No. About place in society ? Not so much. About everything and anything ? Yeah... Is that trauma ? Could be. I'll try to avoid falling into that.
 
Trojita said:
Man that sucks that that had to happen, but that is an amazing story.

I would try and get a very good therapist that can help you with dealing with the experience you had and the future of your life. Even just to be able to say what you are feeling out loud can help.

I'm seeing a specialized therapist. She's doing post-accident therapy like this for 15 years. She helped. I continue seeing her.

Wads said:
If they just released you like nothing happened, perhaps you need new doctors? Get some second opinions to see what actually happened so it doesn't happen again, or you can at least know what your risk it.

Second opinion ? It's not a very french thing. And even less a thing I ever did. I don't feel like I need to. I trust my doctors. Always did. Probably always will. They never failed me, fooled me. My heart specialist is know in the country. Even friends in med school red papers wrote from him.

After the accident, my case suddenly became famous. All the cardiologist from the hospital saw me. They told me the complications I had after the intervention, were at a level of intensity and gravity they never observed. I can't tell if that mean in the hospital or in France or in recorded medecine but they made a pretty huge deal about it.

I still trust my doc. He warned me. He has been taken by surprise by the violence of my fibrillations, just as the entire staff.

Can't blame anyone for my heart to go crazier than anyone could predict it.
 
UnluckyKate said:
You didn't have any heart related record before that ? Any problem in the family ? How old are you ? Waking up a week later seems so long... Why so long ? Forced sleep due to your condition ? Where you stable after your accident or not ? (That would explain why you were out for a week) How did your family hold during this time ?

I don't really understand the "get out of jail free" card thing. It's a reference to Monopoly but I don't get your analogy, sorry...

I want things to be normal again, so I want people to stop worrying about me for every stairs I climb, but on the other hand, I like people taking care of me, asking me how I do. I'm sound like an attention whore but I'm not. I just struggle to deal with what happens to me and the heavy psychological consequences against the physical ones that are healing very fast. I fear that once I got full recovery, everybody will fortget and act like nothing happened.

I'm in my mid-20s. All my tests prior to and after my incidents came back normal. Did go to a bunch of follow-up appointments with different specialists, but no one can give me a definite answer about why it happened. Shit happens, I guess.

Can't really give you any advice since I'm sure I'm still sorting through some identity crisis and other emotion as a result of this. Since I now have a box sticking out of my chest, I'm sure the incident will always define me in some ways. However, it does help me to think that it's mostly up to me to decide how much.
 
ttdr;

too terrifying, didn't read.(i.e. stopped reading when the medical procedures started)


hope everything works out for you.
 
Thanks for writing out that story, deeply moving stuff. Glad you pulled through it well. You seem very stable given the circumstances. Good that you're seeing a therapist.

I imagine I would totally freak out afterwards and become afraid of everything. I'd be paranoid and stressed all the time and would probably have obsessive thoughts about life and its fragility.
 
UnluckyKate said:
I remember a black space. It was warm and felt confortable. Very like the sensation of waking up in bed after a good sleep. I was fine. Then the black space turned out to be a tunnel full of pictures but there was none I could relate to my life. There was no light at the end, just pictures everywhere. Then, a light broke out from behind the wall of pictures, hit me like a lighning bolt and drag me into where it came from and when I hit the wall of picture, I saw a celling and understood it was another defibrilation shock but I was in another room. I felt intense pain again and understood that I wasn't out of trouble yet.

Awesome story dude. This was a NDE...unlike the guy from yesterday who said NDE and didn't list any traits of a NDE. You pass the test. Glad to see you're alive. How does one reincoporate back into society? Go with the flow I guess...don't push things just for pushing sake.
 
UnluckyKate said:
The brain doesn't walk away from trauma ? That's sound fair enough. I suffer from no neurological disorder (how lucky is that, after no blood irrigation in the brain for 5 minutes?) nor motion disorder from the same thing. I don't know about trauma. I don't feel like I'm through a unusual post-accident thing. I think I'm just going through the logical near death aftermath. Question about value of life ? No. About place in society ? Not so much. About everything and anything ? Yeah... Is that trauma ? Could be. I'll try to avoid falling into that.
Well, yes. It's just a matter of whether it is within acceptable parameters or not (i.e. healthy). I wasn't even thinking of brain damage, just psychological damage (of course they are not mutually exclusive).
I don't feel like I'm through a unusual post-accident thing.
You most definitely did not have a "usual" accident, but that's beside the point.
UnluckyKate said:
I'm seeing a specialized therapist. She's doing post-accident therapy like this for 15 years. She helped. I continue seeing her.
I guess I missed that fact, if you mentioned it earlier. Anyway, that's good to hear. :)
 
I had a similar situation when I was 14 and had a serious jaw surgery but the next day after the surgery, I ended up with a collapsed lung (happens occasionally with anesthesia apparently). About a dozen doctors and nurses scrambling around me putting tubes down into my lungs to eventually get me breathing correctly. Had to be on a ventilator for 24 hours and the worst part of it was actually having people visit you and try to console you, that just felt strange and awkward when you're struggling to sync your breathing with the machine. Afterwards I was really turned off to any social contact and it took me about a year to get myself back together. I think talking about the situation like you are doing helps though.
 
Goldrush said:
I'm in my mid-20s. All my tests prior to and after my incidents came back normal. Did go to a bunch of follow-up appointments with different specialists, but no one can give me a definite answer about why it happened. Shit happens, I guess.

Can't really give you any advice since I'm sure I'm still sorting through some identity crisis and other emotion as a result of this. Since I now have a box sticking out of my chest, I'm sure the incident will always define me in some ways. However, it does help me to think that it's mostly up to me to decide how much.

That's a terrible story of yours... This week end, I was hanging out with friends and we met girls at night. We introduced each other and my pals throw a joke about me " He's always traveling, he just came back from heavens " and it didn't bother me at first, because the joke was very noire and well placed. But I hated how they defined me by my condition in front of new people, before I could even say a word. I felt like a freak show or something. Of course, the girls wanted to understand the joke and I was tedious about explaining because it would have throw an heavy cold on the night...

Chittagong said:
Thanks for writing out that story, deeply moving stuff. Glad you pulled through it well. You seem very stable given the circumstances. Good that you're seeing a therapist.

I imagine I would totally freak out afterwards and become afraid of everything. I'd be paranoid and stressed all the time and would probably have obsessive thoughts about life and its fragility.

First night in hospital was a terrible experience. I had a bunch a monitors beeping for any reason (related or not to my heart) and every time my heart was hurting or doing something not right, I was getting nervous. After a few hours on the edge, I asked to mute all the monitors in the room and for something to sleep. They gave me pills and I could rest for few hours... THe first days were difficult, but my heart went fine after that and now the daily irregular pains or stretches of my heart does not bother me so much.

ErasureAcer said:
Awesome story dude. This was a NDE...unlike the guy from yesterday who said NDE and didn't list any traits of a NDE. You pass the test. Glad to see you're alive. How does one reincoporate back into society? Go with the flow I guess...don't push things just for pushing sake.

Yeah. I was trying too hard. Now I'm slowing down, settling with slow but healthy recovery. I just hope psycho-social recovery will slip along as well.

Al-ibn Kermit said:
I had a similar situation when I was 14 and had a serious jaw surgery but the next day after the surgery, I ended up with a collapsed lung (happens occasionally with anesthesia apparently). About a dozen doctors and nurses scrambling around me putting tubes down into my lungs to eventually get me breathing correctly. Had to be on a ventilator for 24 hours and the worst part of it was actually having people visit you and try to console you, that just felt strange and awkward when you're struggling to sync your breathing with the machine. Afterwards I was really turned off to any social contact and it took me about a year to get myself back together. I think talking about the situation like you are doing helps though.

Letting it through my mind helps. Even the conversations I have in this thread helps. Just too talk about it, to shares, to get support and advise is helping. But it's pretty hard to talk about this in society... That's why I was seeking help here.
 
Astery said:
If it's ok, mind if I ask what kind of pictures you saw?

It was very common pictures. I remember thinking " It should be pictures of memories, or pictures I took... " but it were not.

I can remember very clearly a black and white kitten, in the green grass, during a sunny day. It was very generic, like a picture you find on kitten calendar for grannies...

Another one was a sunset over a beach. Sky was orange to redish. Sea was calm, not oil calm but still. A palm tree on the side, over the sight. Just like a windows wallpaper/postal card you can find from any resort beach...

Last one is more interesting. It was a close up from over a car. Probably an old racer, I can remember seeing the engine through what seemed to be a rear windows. You could see the screws and the rivets around the hatch. Lot's of very silk and smooth curves. Body was shiny like a mirror. Color was orange and what looks like stripes were dark green.

I have a cat, but it never was black or white, I can't remember any palm tree sunset in my life and I'm not into cars that much, and especially not into old or race cars.
 
Live Journal Bump.

I think I'm officially in a severe post-nde depression.

I realized that a few hours ago. I haven't stepped outside for 3 days. I'm eating only 2 meals a day. I'm turning down everybody and every perspective. Don't feel like doing anything, speaking to anyone, even answesring to the phone and talk gently to the famillly for a couple of minutes is a terrible pain. I just feel like hanging up because everything feels bland and I couldn't care less about their daily routine and interrogations.

I'm just running away from every responsability and I avoid getting involved in all the work I have to do for school in the team project. I have to find a trainership but I'm not sure if I can make it, physically speaking. I few weeks ago, I was eager to get better, I was pushing myself way to hard for recovery. Now I'm just hiding under my accident and my condition.

I hate it.

I realised I am at an advanced stage of depression and going worst way too fast.

Today I'm cleaning all the trash I've got massed up in the flat. I'm showering. Shaving. I'm calling friends for force myself to go out and hang out. I'll probably take pictures by night, I used to love that. Tomorrow I'm putting a suit and I'm going to kick doors and find a job and after that I'll shoot movies for this school project.

And I'll eat apples.

And call my therapist. I guess I shouldn't wait our next session in 2+ weeks.

And plan a couple of days off, somewhere sunny or someplace fun nearby.
 
I've had a couple of those experiences. Once when I nearly drowned and another where I was hospitalised (with one particular text returning a "not compatible with life"; I don't want to go into details though) and the weird thing is it didn't bother me at all. That's not some morbid bragging. I think I've known death is inevitable and have, kind of, been comfortable with it.

Clearly I'm a different make-up to you so there's not much there that is of use to you. But, umm, to redeem my post... mental health professionals are sometimes very useful folk (having spoken to a therapist just in case I had PTS after going to Afghanistan).
 
UnluckyKate said:
I realised I am at an advanced stage of depression and going worst way too fast.

Today I'm cleaning all the trash I've got massed up in the flat. I'm showering. Shaving. I'm calling friends for force myself to go out and hang out. I'll probably take pictures by night, I used to love that. Tomorrow I'm putting a suit and I'm going to kick doors and find a job and after that I'll shoot movies for this school project.

And I'll eat apples.

And call my therapist. I guess I shouldn't wait our next session in 2+ weeks.

And plan a couple of days off, somewhere sunny or someplace fun nearby.

Follow through with this OP, things will get better.
 
UnluckyKate said:
Today I'm cleaning all the trash I've got massed up in the flat. I'm showering. Shaving. I'm calling friends for force myself to go out and hang out. I'll probably take pictures by night, I used to love that. Tomorrow I'm putting a suit and I'm going to kick doors and find a job and after that I'll shoot movies for this school project.

And I'll eat apples.

And call my therapist. I guess I shouldn't wait our next session in 2+ weeks.

And plan a couple of days off, somewhere sunny or someplace fun nearby.
Sounds like a great plan :)
 
TheEastonator said:
You need to leave your house and go outside ASAP. It's tough, but trust me.

Yeah, the hardest is to leave the place. Find motivation to put myself together, and prepare to hit the street again... While I'm so confortable between my chair and my bed. But I'm fully loaded up now. No time to fool arround being sad and stuff. Time have a drink with friend, enjoy real food, walk, breath, shop, touch things, feels things.

Jeramii said:
OP. You wrote that very well. I was actually able to picture everything you said.

Hope all is going well for you.

Thank you. It was pretty hard to write because it brought all these memories back... And english isn't my first language.

Things are going back and forth... I guess it's life.

slider said:
I've had a couple of those experiences. Once when I nearly drowned and another where I was hospitalised (with one particular text returning a "not compatible with life"; I don't want to go into details though) and the weird thing is it didn't bother me at all. That's not some morbid bragging. I think I've known death is inevitable and have, kind of, been comfortable with it.

Clearly I'm a different make-up to you so there's not much there that is of use to you. But, umm, to redeem my post... mental health professionals are sometimes very useful folk (having spoken to a therapist just in case I had PTS after going to Afghanistan).

I used to be afraid of death, the first night after. I was still very weak, under shock, with pain and all stressed up that it could happen again. Now, I don't know... I used to not being afraid of death because of my condition but now (because of depression) I just don't care.

iNvidious01 said:
go out, tell your story, have a good time

It's hard to put that in a conversation: " Hey babe, I'm a photographer, and I was dead for 5 minutes last month. Wanna check my place ? "

And even with friends... I'm not confortable bringing that up. I feel like an attention whore. It's very hard for me to put thoughts in orders. It's even harder to put words together. So imagine trying to tell someone casually that you don't know how to deal with him because he feels bland and boring to you after you had this near death experience...


Dreams-Visions said:
300bpm! wow, man.

Does not feel good. You loose awarness of your muscle because blood isn't pumped how it should to. Soon, you realize you can't talk, because you can't even move your jaw. Breathing feels like inhalating air so hot it's burning your chest from inside, creating a raging storm of fire melting your lungs and heart.


water_wendi said:
Sounds like a great plan :)

It's a basic act-to-go-better plan. The hard part is to follow it up. Then to keep it up for the upcoming days/weeks.


zerokoolpsx said:
It's the weekend. Go out and have fun. Have you been able to talk about your NDE to anyone else besides your head doc?

I've receive tons of supports. Incredibly moving messages and boring ones. It helped a lot in the first days after the accident, because it was when I needed the most. Now, everybody knows my story. It's been more than a month... And like I said, I don't feel confortable about bringing that up out of nowhere during a casual conversation whit anyone. It would be way too cold blooded.
 
Bump, double post, etc... Sorry.

It's been two month since... I died. I'm just out of the hospital, for the monthly observation routine, after the accident. Things don't turn very well. The effect of the initial intervention... are not showing up. Docs are still very cold and don't talk about results just yet. They hide behind the third month and final observation tests to evaluate everything. But I fear I'll have to go back on the table.

I fear I have to go through the intervention that killed me two month ago, again.

I'm still struggling everyday to get over this post nde depression. I got a full time job for a web site, I wake up every morning and it's good for both moral and physical shape to keep some things going on a regular basis like this.

Still, things are as hard as before. It's been two month. It feels so far yet just like yesterday. Of course my condition and my moral made through a lot and are better, but I feel exhausted by all this.
 
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