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Boss Doggie · Jan 20, 2012

I've always been buying DVDs for watching videos, but I've actually considered buying blu-rays (I already have some thanks to those BR-DVD combos but never actually used them since I let relatives borrow them), but I always wondered how big the leap of quality is. And is the actual video from Blu Ray much better than say, online streams or BR rips?

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew · Jan 20, 2012

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/compare.htm

Big.

Online stream and BD rips are compressed compared to the actual Blu-ray disc.

Ragnarok · Jan 20, 2012

It's a huge leap.

nomis · Jan 20, 2012

It has 6x the detail of standard def, and pretty much as high bitrate as possible, which means that in fast moving scenes the video will never macro-block like more compressed streaming video.

Korey · Jan 20, 2012

Ookami-kun said:
I've always been buying DVDs for watching videos, but I've actually considered buying blu-rays (I already have some thanks to those BR-DVD combos but never actually used them since I let relatives borrow them), but I always wondered how big the leap of quality is. And is the actual video from Blu Ray much better than say, online streams or BR rips?

Blu Ray is HD.

Boss Doggie · Jan 20, 2012

But what about vs. rips?

Good Job Bob · Jan 20, 2012

Yes, yes, yes.

Tremendous jump in quality.

RBH · Jan 20, 2012

Rent a Blu-Ray from RedBox and see for yourself.

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew · Jan 20, 2012

Ookami-kun said:
But what about vs. rips?

BD rip is essentially someone taking a Blu-ray copy of a movie, ripping/pirating it and uploading it at a lower resolution.

Example: The Dark Knight is 40GB. BD rip available in the masses is 1GB-7GB. These are done so to ensure people can save these files in a DVD for backup purposes or it's small enough to ensure quick download.

weekend_warrior · Jan 20, 2012

1. It varies from movie to movie
2. Some people notice the difference more then others.
3. It depends on your setup.

In general if you have a 40"+ 1080P TV you'll definitely notice and appreciate the difference. A smaller TV and you probably won't.

maomaoIYP · Jan 20, 2012

Only matters if you're watching it using a HD monitor/TV.

Goreomedy · Jan 20, 2012

Worth it for the audio quality alone, if you've got the system to take advantage of it.

Good Job Bob · Jan 20, 2012

Ookami-kun said:
But what about vs. rips?

Blu-rays are much much higher quality than the crappy pirated rips as well.

LuCkymoON · Jan 20, 2012

Superior color and sound are the main reasons I cannot stand DVD video compared to blu-ray disc.

HomerSimpson-Man · Jan 20, 2012

HD streams suffer from microblocking alot when there busy fast moving scenes. Heck even OTA HD , which can be much better than cable HD, suffers from it. And ripped BD as noted is heavily compressed and also without the HD audio.

SCULLIBUNDO · Jan 20, 2012

Apocalypse Now.

coldvein · Jan 20, 2012

star wars

vhs

it's the best.

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew · Jan 20, 2012

Comparing HD Stream. According to Netflix, the Best quality provides up to 2.3 GB per hour for HD. That's way less than that a Blu-ray will provide.

OnkelC · Jan 20, 2012

Ookami-kun said:
I've always been buying DVDs for watching videos, but I've actually considered buying blu-rays (I already have some thanks to those BR-DVD combos but never actually used them since I let relatives borrow them), but I always wondered how big the leap of quality is. And is the actual video from Blu Ray much better than say, online streams or BR rips?

It's a huge leap in quality. It gets much more obvious if you get accustomed to watching Blu-Rays for a couple of months and then go back to DVDs.

ThoseDeafMutes · Jan 20, 2012

I can notice the difference for sure, but after all is said and done, I could have lived with DVD (and still do since most of my collection is in that format).

AzureSkies · Jan 20, 2012

One thing I completely love about Blu-rays is how there is far more region free Blu-rays compared to DVDs, which allowed me to build a collection when I was moving from England to Canada without any problems

SCULLIBUNDO · Jan 20, 2012

Kinyou · Jan 20, 2012

No question about the quality of the image, though the lack of nice looking menus really annoying. Most of the time it's just some kind of poor "flash" animation or there's just no menu at all. Being able to call up a little pop-up menu during the movie is nice though.

nomis · Jan 20, 2012

Ookami-kun said:
But what about vs. rips?

"I don't know nothing about no rips, B."

whitehawk · Jan 20, 2012

Here is the difference.

DonMigs85 · Jan 20, 2012

you might wanna wait, because apparently 4K movies might be out in a few years.

Rentahamster · Jan 20, 2012

shagg_187 said:
BD rip is essentially someone taking a Blu-ray copy of a movie, ripping/pirating it and uploading it at a lower resolution.

Example: The Dark Knight is 40GB. BD rip available in the masses is 1GB-7GB. These are done so to ensure people can save these files in a DVD for backup purposes or it's small enough to ensure quick download.

It's not a lower resolution. It's still at an HD resolution (unless you are talking about going from 1080 to 720, then yeah), just that the filesize has been reduced due to trimming out the extras, and using a more compressed codec.

PumpkinPie · Jan 20, 2012

Loads of Blu Rays are shit quality though, best to read specific reviews an Amazon if you're planning on buying any. I recently bought the Millennium series and they look all snowy.

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew · Jan 20, 2012

PumpkinPie said:
I recently bought the Millennium series and they look all snowy.

Staying true to the setting, I suppose! :lol

NEOPARADIGM · Jan 20, 2012

The jump has been big enough to not be disappointing, but not big enough to where I went out and bought all my movies again like I did with DVD. I have something like 40 blu-rays, not 200.

$0.02

PumpkinPie · Jan 20, 2012

shagg_187 said:
Staying true to the setting, I suppose! :lol

I still prefer to buy DVDs, my TV is only 32" so there isn't a massive difference between them for me, my eyesight is pretty bad though.

xbhaskarx · Jan 20, 2012

whitehawk said:
Here is the difference.

Those two images

you quoted

look exactly the same

on my phone

.

TheKaeptain · Jan 20, 2012

PumpkinPie said:
I still prefer to buy DVDs, my TV is only 32" so there isn't a massive difference between them for me, my eyesight is pretty bad though.

I have a 32 inch Samsung in my bed room and I can tell the difference between dvd and blu-ray.

Risette · Jan 20, 2012

PumpkinPie said:
Loads of Blu Rays are shit quality though, best to read specific reviews an Amazon if you're planning on buying any. I recently bought the Millennium series and they look all snowy.

Amazon reviews? At least look at AVSforum or DVDbeaver or something.

dimb · Jan 20, 2012

whitehawk said:
Here is the difference.

I kind of prefer the aesthetic of the regular version.

def sim · Jan 20, 2012

I only own one blu-ray movie and it's Groundhog Day. Probably not the best reference for quality, but it looks very good. DVD isn't in the same tier at all.

duckroll · Jan 20, 2012

Ookami-kun said:
But what about vs. rips?

Tell us which rips you've seen, and we'll help compare them to the actual blu-rays.

Risette · Jan 20, 2012

Dance In My Blood said:
I kind of prefer the aesthetic of the regular version.

Uh, why?

Good Job Bob · Jan 20, 2012

Dance In My Blood said:
I kind of prefer the aesthetic of the regular version.

Blow up the DVD version on a 55" screen and we'll see if you still prefer the "aesthetic". ;p

parrotbeak · Jan 20, 2012

I've only watched a handful of brs at friends', but I remember Jerry McGuire looked like shit.

MrToughPants · Jan 20, 2012

BR quality is so much better I don't have to wear my contact lenses when I'm watching in the living room, I don't have to squint either.

DVD/SD TV I need my contacts or else i'm squinting.

dimb · Jan 20, 2012

pizzaroll said:
Uh, why?

It's pretty obvious that the image was never intended to be displayed at a high bit-rate. The standard image paints a very complete picture, while the updated version is a visual mess because of all the detail. Suddenly the translucent tape becomes something for the viewer to inspect. The numbers and words on the transceiver are there for the viewer to overindulge in. I just don't like it at all.

Good Job Bob · Jan 20, 2012

Dance In My Blood said:
It's pretty obvious that the image was never intended to be displayed at a high bit-rate. The standard image paints a very complete picture, while the updated version is a visual mess because of all the detail. Suddenly the translucent tape becomes something for the viewer to inspect. The numbers and words on the transceiver are there for the viewer to overindulge in. I just don't like it at all.

Yeah, this is wrong.

whitehawk · Jan 20, 2012

Dance In My Blood said:
It's pretty obvious that the image was never intended to be displayed at a high bit-rate. The standard image paints a very complete picture, while the updated version is a visual mess because of all the detail. Suddenly the translucent tape becomes something for the viewer to inspect. The numbers and words on the transceiver are there for the viewer to overindulge in. I just don't like it at all.

Um, what? When the film was originally played in theatres, it would have likely been displayed at resolutions greater than 1080p.

edit: I think I'm being trolled.

nomis · Jan 20, 2012

duckroll said:
Tell us which rips you've seen, and we'll help compare them to the actual blu-rays.

BocoDragon · Jan 20, 2012

Dance In My Blood said:
It's pretty obvious that the image was never intended to be displayed at a high bit-rate. The standard image paints a very complete picture, while the updated version is a visual mess because of all the detail. Suddenly the translucent tape becomes something for the viewer to inspect. The numbers and words on the transceiver are there for the viewer to overindulge in. I just don't like it at all.

Dude.... Film is like 4x greater than HD resolution.

Blu-ray is actually a slight downgrade from how it was shot.

DVD is like displaying that film at 1/20th the quality.

whitehawk said:
edit: I think I'm being trolled.

Must be... must be.....

Rukes · Jan 20, 2012

icarus-daedelus said:
I wasn't convinced until I bought Interstella 5555.

Interstella 5555 is considered one of the worst blu-ray's ever made, since all they did was upconvert the 480p DVD to 1080p, so it looks like garbage.

So if you are serious (and it wasn't a subtle troll attempt), I think you need to watch an actual blu-ray quality disc to be blown away

King Of Fuh · Jan 20, 2012

Echoing a bit what others have said here, but...

Blu-Ray looks and sounds noticeably better than DVD. However, I have an extensive DVD collection and have no interest in rebuying all the titles I collected over the years, so I generally just buy blu-rays of movies that I didn't already own. When I watch DVDs, which get upconverted by the blu-ray player, I am in no way distracted or bothered by their quality.

They still sound and look good to me, just not as good. People were very happy with DVDs for a long time, I think it's a bit of overreaction the way people treat DVDs like garbage nowadays. I imagine when the next super-HD format comes along they'll be saying the same thing about their BRDs.

Anyway, you can get blu ray players for so cheap these days, it's a very minimal investment for the upgrade.

itxaka · Jan 20, 2012

Rentahamster said:
It's not a lower resolution. It's still at an HD resolution (unless you are talking about going from 1080 to 720, then yeah), just that the filesize has been reduced due to trimming out the extras, and using a more compressed codec.

This. I have ripped my BD movies (only have 8) to store them in digital form and the highest one I have has a bitrate of 10Mb with a filesize of around 8-10Gb. I can't notice any difference with a 22 monitor as I wathc them at my PC only so I guess there can't be much of a difference with those scene rips if they hoover around 6-8Mb and you are watching them in a medium sized monitor or tv.

Also I guess the scene has better rippers than me (I know the basics of video encoding) so they are able to squeeze more out of the codecs and such.

Is there too much difference between a 40Mb bitrate and 8Mb bitrate for a medium tv?

985boi · Jan 20, 2012

Kinda off topic question and maybe a stupid one.

I got a question about TV shows on blu-ray. Are the audio and video way much better than their hd broadcast?

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