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In the last quarter, the Iphone is bigger than all of Microsoft

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The iPhone did not exist five years ago. And now it's bigger than a company that, 15 years ago, was dragged into court and threatened with forcible break-up because it had amassed an unassailable and unthinkably profitable monopoly.

The iPhone also appears to be considerably more profitable than Microsoft.

In the December quarter, Apple's iPhone business generated $24.4 billion of revenue. Microsoft's whole company, meanwhile, from Windows to Office to servers to XBox, generated $20.9 billion.


http://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-bigger-than-microsoft-2012-2#ixzz1lwnlDFq8


2007 Interview with Steve Ballmer said:
INTERVIEWER: ... The Zune was getting some traction. Then Steve Jobs goes to MacWorld and he pulls out this iPhone. What was your reaction when you saw that?

STEVE BALLMER: 500 dollars? Fully subsidized? With a plan? I said that is the most expensive phone in the world. And it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard. Which makes it not a very good email machine.

INTERVIEWER: How do you compete with that, though? He sucked out a lot of the spotlight...

STEVE BALLMER: Let's take phones first. Right now, we're selling millions and millions and millions of phones a year. Apple is selling zero phones a year. In six months, they'll have the most expensive phone by far ever in the marketplace.


http://www.businessinsider.com/flas...iphone-september-22-2007-2010-6#ixzz1lwoL8ixM
 
i understand why people compare the two companies but i would think apple is closer to a company like samsung than microsoft. Google and Microsoft seems to be a better comparison nowadays.
 
someone needs to get rid of ballmer. dude just missed the ball way too much and way too often. I have no macdroid beef with microsoft, but seriously people. reboot your shit.
 
Read this earlier this week. Is this the biggest financial phenomenon ever? I read something like AAPL accounts for 10% of NASDAQ. Just wow.
 
Read this earlier this week. Is this the biggest financial phenomenon ever? I read something like AAPL accounts for 10% of NASDAQ. Just wow.

Erm, no? The worldwide housing boom of the previous decade for one was on a much grander scale. I'm not even sure what you mean.
 
I don't like this comparison because Microsoft make an established computer operating system and iPhones are phones. Both cater to totally different markets (one market is booming and the other is relatively stagnant) and both are in different growth stages. Not to mention that the Xbox has been basically unchanged for almost 7 years now, so it's not exactly a hot selling item.
 
I don't like this comparison because Microsoft make an established computer operating system and iPhones are phones. Both cater to totally different markets and both are in different growth stages. Not to mention that the Xbox has been basically unchanged for almost 7 years now.

Microsoft has sold a phone OS for years. They assumed they would rule phones just like they ruled the desktop.

Never forget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U&feature=player_embedded
 
I love the competition, it's bringing the best of out everyone.

If Apple didn't have this success we would still possibly have Vista and Windows Mobile. Windows 8 today would be still on a road map 3+ years down the line and Windows Phone wouldn't exist.

Good for Apple.
 
Microsoft has sold a phone OS for years. They assumed they would rule phones just like they ruled the desktop.

Never forget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U&feature=player_embedded

Apple came in at a completely different level than all the other phone developers. To me, Microsoft trying to break into the phone OS market is like Apple trying to break into the console gaming market. (and I don't mean iPad & iPhone as a gaming system, I mean like a dedicated system like xbox or playstation)
 
Apple came in at a completely different level than all the other phone developers. To me, Microsoft trying to break into the phone OS market is like Apple trying to break into the console gaming market. (and I don't mean iPad & iPhone as a gaming system, I mean like a dedicated system like xbox or playstation)

That makes no sense, Microsoft were already in the phone business. They have just been really shitty at getting with the times.

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That makes no sense, Microsoft were already in the phone business. They have just been really shitty at getting with the times.

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My t-mobile MDA had that OS. it was fucking terrible.

I had to reconfigure the touch screen daily because it would lose track of where my stylus presses were ocurring. battery life was horrid. startup time was horrid. browser was horrid. call stability was questionable.

Why did I buy that phone? Ugh. Fortunately, my next phone was the iPhone 2G.
 
That makes no sense, Microsoft were already in the phone business. They have just been really shitty at getting with the times.

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I still remember using windows mobile on my omnia. That piece of crap.

Microsoft had a foot in the mobile space way before apple or google had. And they squandered all that advantage. *shakes my head*
 
They need to bring Bill Gates back. Badly.

Too bad Bill Gates has already stated that he has no interest in returning to day-to-day management of Microsoft.

Oh, right, I thought it was funny that on Christmas weekend, a combined 6.4 million iOS + Android devices were activated. Microsoft sold a total of 6.8 million Windows Phone 7 devices in all of 2011. It took iOS + Android 2-3 days to almost match the total sales of WP7 in all of 2011.
 
Not a chance. Not with their influence and the money they're making. They'll be a factor even if they don't come out with a single new product in the next decade.

No way they would be relevant. The 4S and ipad 2 could be the last products until 2022 and they would still be in the game?

Edit - Unless you meant that they could respec the ipad and iphone. Your post didn't make that part clear. If they could just release new ipads and iphones every year then, yes, they will still be around 10 years from now.
 
They need to bring Bill Gates back. Badly.

Too bad Bill Gates has already stated that he has no interest in returning to day-to-day management of Microsoft.

Oh, right, I thought it was funny that on Christmas weekend, a combined 6.4 million iOS + Android devices were activated. Microsoft sold a total of 6.8 million Windows Phone 7 devices in all of 2011. It took iOS + Android 2-3 days to almost match the total sales of WP7 in all of 2011.

Bill Gates was pretty good... but he had plenty of his own management flaws. I mean the guy stayed on as Chairman and still worked at Microsoft up until something like 2006. So of 6 out of 12 years of decline, he still had significant power to change things as he saw fit.

His biggest failing was keeping Ballmer on - that guy... on one hand, I imagine he's kinda like the embodiment of MS culture. OTOH, MS culture is so irrelevant nowadays, and he's kinda the reason for it.
 
No way they would be relevant. The 4S and ipad 2 could be the last products until 2022 and they would still be in the game?

All they have to do is upgrade those products. Look at how much the iPod still makes them and look at how long it has been out on the market. Their laptop industry also makes them a good amount of money. Apple's business model is to come out with a product, charge a premium, and then slowly drop the price as they upgrade the device. It has worked wonders.
 
All they have to do is upgrade those products. Look at how much the iPod still makes them and look at how long it has been out on the market. Their laptop industry also makes them a good amount of money. Apple's business model is to come out with a product, charge a premium, and then slowly drop the price as they upgrade the device. It has worked wonders.

See my edit above. Yeah, I got what you meant after the post.
 
Apple came in at a completely different level than all the other phone developers. To me, Microsoft trying to break into the phone OS market is like Apple trying to break into the console gaming market. (and I don't mean iPad & iPhone as a gaming system, I mean like a dedicated system like xbox or playstation)

What? How is that even a comparison?

Microsoft actually has a pretty decent phone OS available right now (regardless of its tiny marketshare). Then you compare it to Apple breaking into the console market? What?
 
Apple came in at a completely different level than all the other phone developers. To me, Microsoft trying to break into the phone OS market is like Apple trying to break into the console gaming market. (and I don't mean iPad & iPhone as a gaming system, I mean like a dedicated system like xbox or playstation)

You mean like the Apple Pippin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Bandai_Pippin

Also remember the Apple Newton, the PDA they release way back when? That didn't do so well and if you judged Apple's ability to release a PDA type product on the success of the Newton then the iPhone should have failed. Microsoft never seem to get things right the first few times, just look at their OSes. It used to be that you would wait for the first service pack before you upgraded to a new version of Windows.
 
Microsoft is doing well. The point of that chart/article is how crazy good the iPhone sells.

edit: Although I don't know what "iPhone Business" is supposed to mean. Does that include App Store? iTunes?
 
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