http://www.pocketgamer.biz/r/PG.Biz/PlayStation+Vita/news.asp?c=38346
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(Credit goes to dc89 posting this in Vita 1.2 million thread earlier)
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PS Vita UK launch sales 'around one quarter' of PSP debut
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(Credit goes to dc89 posting this in Vita 1.2 million thread earlier)
darkpaladinmfc
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I'm not surprised, I haven't hear anybody mention it, I heard a lot of PSP talk back when it launched.
DefectiveReject
Banned
Nice device
Wrong advertisements. Makes it look purely hardcore.
Wrong advertisements. Makes it look purely hardcore.
Yeah I saw this too.
I remember back when PSP launched. My brother got one for his birthday, there was a big fuss about the system and the quality it could offer in the palm of your hands.
The Vita offers more quality yet it hasn't seemed to have generated the same buzz. I guess the economic squeeze is not helping.
I remember back when PSP launched. My brother got one for his birthday, there was a big fuss about the system and the quality it could offer in the palm of your hands.
The Vita offers more quality yet it hasn't seemed to have generated the same buzz. I guess the economic squeeze is not helping.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Doesn't really make any sense. Completely flies contrary to both what Patrick Garratt said the other day and what Sony released today.
Although if the Vita failed that bad in the UK then it must be selling well in the US. Otherwise it doesn't really add up.
Although if the Vita failed that bad in the UK then it must be selling well in the US. Otherwise it doesn't really add up.
Shining Sunshine
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"My source (from GAF) told me."
Father_Brain
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I emailed Patrick Garratt, who made the positive comments, asking for clarification on that point. He wouldn't (couldn't?) provide any, so I have no idea.
Well the UK doesnt make up all of the EU region. But yeah I dont think its a stretch that North America would carry the majority of that 600k.
No one seemed to notice it so I thought it would be good to create a new thread. Console launches and their sales discussion don't happen that often.
But if mods find this thread unnecessary, it's fine by me.
Yeah, I noticed you posting this and thought I'd make a thread. You are mentioned in OP now. ^^
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
And nobody had a smartphone back when PSP launched
GarthVaderUK
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Hmm. Sales to retail number from Nintendo vs sales to consumers number from Chart Track maybe?
DefectiveReject
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The justifications across the two threads are crazy.
If its at 600k for rest of the world. 70k in.the UK is 12% or a touch more. USA probably about 50-60% so it all ties in
If its at 600k for rest of the world. 70k in.the UK is 12% or a touch more. USA probably about 50-60% so it all ties in
What on Earth would you buy it otherwise for?
"I like Angry Birds, but for some reason don't own a phone that plays it. What im' looking for is an expensive hardcore gaming machine with an OLED screen that I can play Farmville on."
This is true. People had Snake on their phones, maybe in colour!
113k according to Nintendo, but there have always been reports about how Chart Track numbers were very different from what it has been said in the famous PR about European launch.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
We have a 12-13 page thread at this time to discuss all this. Now we can have another mockery here too I guess.
The accuracy of NoE's internal tracking system is undeniable. Any potential error is at Chart-Track's side.
You would be surprised at the ammount of people that buy a $1500+ macbook to browse Facebook and play Farmville.
DefectiveReject
Banned
Hardcore gamers stay at home and sit with headsets on and eat pizza and shoot yanks.
Handheld gamers want mostly quick.immersive, pick up put down games with the occasional longer game..... at least that's what I see anyway.
Plus its 2012 and we're staving off recession so £300+ on a handheld is out. Especially as we're all saving up for an iPad3!!!!
GarthVaderUK
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Strange, I thought Vita sold 1.2 million together in both US and EU
Worldwide.
DefectiveReject
Banned
The same way 3DS had 140k preorders and sold 113k.
MarshMellow96
Member
I bet
most of those sales were on Amazon, too.
The dying retail stores basically fucked people over. Game/Gamestation essentially priced the console £30 higher than HMV. £44.99 16GB cards on release day...
Jeez.
That 'source' is just insane, too.
hope
The dying retail stores basically fucked people over. Game/Gamestation essentially priced the console £30 higher than HMV. £44.99 16GB cards on release day...
Jeez.
That 'source' is just insane, too.
People cancelling their pre-order perhaps? It does seem a bit odd though.
Eitherway, it really isn't surprising. I only know one other person who has a Vita, and I haven't heard it being talked about much at all.
Keeping also in mind that Chart Track covered until March 26.
3DS was released on March 25, and Nintendo's number (113k) were for the weekend (ending March 27).
That was expected. PSP had a lot going for it, it had a huge buzz. I think PSP sales were record breaking in the UK. PSP was releasing after the hugely successful PS2, where Sony were the market leaders. Smartphones and tablets were not around too, and the graphics jump from DS to PSP was huge. Where as the graphics jump from high end smartphones, tablets and 3DS to Vita might be big, but not big enough for the average consumer to easily tell. Of course lack of software, piracy, price, and lack of innovation like touchscreen killed interest in PSP later in it's life. With Vita most of it's features are hard to distinguish for the average consumers. Great graphics, well a lot of casuals can't see a huge difference in graphics from a game like Infinity Blade and Real Racing to a Vita game. All it's social features and great multitasking UI, is hard to market without a person actually using a Vita themselves, and smartphones have many of these features too.
turnbuckle
Member
Pretty devastating if true. I really love the device but it's fighting an uphill battle in a crowded market and the advertising + pricing of hardware/software/necessary memory cards aren't doing anything to convince consumers that the Vita is a good buy.
PSP is still the console with the best debut in UK EVER.
Well huh. Guess that settles that confusion.
Lovegooder
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I think one non-circle jerk for every seven or eight circle jerks is a good ratio. Good, not great.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yeah, you have to have that balance.
Also adding to what I posted above (about the differences in days between the reports and Chart Track; and the articles with the 3DS)..the same applies to the Vita:
-Vita was released on February 22 in UK.
-Chart Track covered until February 25 (3 days).
-Sony's PR covered until February 26.
Like the 3DS, none of the numbers tracked "an entire week" and all are different because all covered different days and different trackers (internal versus external).
-Vita was released on February 22 in UK.
-Chart Track covered until February 25 (3 days).
-Sony's PR covered until February 26.
Like the 3DS, none of the numbers tracked "an entire week" and all are different because all covered different days and different trackers (internal versus external).
I can't say I'm surprised, sadly. Here in Europe the hype for this machine is nearly 0. And I'm lucky to have a public booth to try one in a MediaMarkt not far from home: is the only promotion I've seen for the Vita here where I live.
I went to that MM the launch day, and then again yesterday to buy a new TV. The pile of Vitas was exactly at the same height. Anecdotal, I know, but I was also in the launch of the original PSP here in Spain (I bought one, with a friend of mine) and back then that console had hype and they were actually, you know, selling. You could see game shops moving the product. Perhaps it's its price and the shitty economy, but whatever it is, I just don't see that excitement (or, TBH, any excitement) for the Vita here.
And that's sad, as the Vita is a much much much better product than the original PSP. I'll surely grab one the moment it gets its first pricecut. I was burned by what happened with the 3DS, I won't repeat the mistake of buying too early never again.
I went to that MM the launch day, and then again yesterday to buy a new TV. The pile of Vitas was exactly at the same height. Anecdotal, I know, but I was also in the launch of the original PSP here in Spain (I bought one, with a friend of mine) and back then that console had hype and they were actually, you know, selling. You could see game shops moving the product. Perhaps it's its price and the shitty economy, but whatever it is, I just don't see that excitement (or, TBH, any excitement) for the Vita here.
And that's sad, as the Vita is a much much much better product than the original PSP. I'll surely grab one the moment it gets its first pricecut. I was burned by what happened with the 3DS, I won't repeat the mistake of buying too early never again.
It's a shame the prince's life was so short lived
It's outstanding how things changed in such a little span of time.
This is how the all format chart appeared when PSP launched
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index....p&ct=110015&arch=t&lyr=2005&year=2005&week=35
TWENTY TITLES FOR A BRAND NEW CONSOLE OUT OF FORTY TITLES IN THE UK RANKING. Something probably we'll never see again with the next launches. XD
shinra-bansho
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Is this site known for A) having access to Gfk-ChartTrack data not publically published; and B) being allowed to publicly disclose such data, in however a roundabout way they've done it...?
It does seem plausible. Global tie ratio is around 1.7 - software floor is around 80K. UK tie ratio may be higher than global.
It does seem plausible. Global tie ratio is around 1.7 - software floor is around 80K. UK tie ratio may be higher than global.
Nope.
The 1.2 million number is worldwide, so if you remove the 600k or so from Japan/HK that leaves 600k for the rest of the world. Then the 80k or so from UK and is around 520k...and you still need the rest of Europe, Australia, US, Canada and Latin America.
Tretton is expecting to sell 500k in the US in 3 weeks..and it just 1 week.