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Star Wars: The Old Republic sub numbers already declining - analyst
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Escape Goat
Member
Negative, negative. It didn't go in. It just impacted on the surface.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
hmm oh well 
that is why GW2 will be awesome though, it's sub numbers CAN'T ever decline
that is why GW2 will be awesome though, it's sub numbers CAN'T ever decline
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Deleted member 17706
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Free weekends. You don't do free weekends if you're satisfied with your subscription growth.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Yeah, not sure if these should even have threads anymore. This isn't an official statement and could be 100% or 100% right.
Yeah. And you'll continue to see those even if the game had 10,000,000 subscribers. The market for MMOs has changed. I still see TOR going F2P next year but analysts don't know jack and really shouldn't be treated as experts at anything.
EA wouldn't say a fucking thing if subscriber numbers were going down.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
Well they would have to at some point, right? They have shareholders to answer to.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Coincidentally, I got a mail today from EA, with an offer to play TOR for free.
I deleted it without reading it.
Disheveled_Zen
Member
All that is, is signs of marketing tactics in an increasingly bloated genre of gaming. There are so many MMOs with subscriptions, and most people will not subscribe to two different games at a time, so stuff like free weekends, free till level 20 and so on is just further steps in a marketing war.
Is SWTORs subs decilining? Sure.
Has the same thing happened to every MMO since WoW? Yep.
This is why MMOs need to stop opening so many servers at launch, its inevitable that you are going to lose subscribers as time goes on.
Also this guy gets paid to look at third party sites that have no concrete data and write about them? Damn I need to change majors.
BattleMonkey
Member
I wish I could get paid to guess random things.
hmm oh well
that is why GW2 will be awesome though, it's sub numbers CAN'T ever decline
Ummm yes it can. When people just don't buy the next expansion.
But things are supposed to get better as time goes on, not stay the same.
Companies aren't trying to "beat" WoW. MMOGs that have a sustainable subscriber base are hugely profitable. The marginal revenue per subscriber gets higher as the game gets older. You know what is a hugely profitable game that most likely only has 100,000 subscribers? Ultima Online. The marginal revenue per subscriber for UO is probably the highest in the space.
Since it's buy to play and not subscription based, the number of subscriptions cannot drop as it does not exist
BattleMonkey
Member
EA would be happy if the game has 1.25 mil subs still at end of Fiscal March 2013. They are not talking about this month
TouchMyBox
Member
Project Titan has a shot.
Absoludacrous
Member
This reminds me, I still need to cancel my sub.
Cancelled mine after the ME3 ending.
Because MMOs make tons of money even if they get a fraction of WoW's userbase.
fluffydelusions
Member
Only because it's Blizzard lol. That said, I enjoyed SWTOR but got bored when I hit lvl 50 and beat my story line and had nothing much to do. That plus they really need to merge servers because many planets are just empty, particularly those in the later game.
Bending_Unit_22
Member
I thought it might draw in people like me who won't play MMO's for whatever reason by being Star Wars. Then again I was just reminded of why I won't pay monthly fees to play games. The free trial of WoW should have done that, but I do so love The Old Republic franchise.
sixteen-bit
Member
How does this compare with SWG?
The only person that can beat Blizzard is Blizzard. Titan has a high bar to hit but they could make it if we actually find out what the hell it is.
Escape Goat
Member
I don't see TOR as being an MMO. Its a single player experience with the option to do co op play. Both had potential to be slam dunk MMOs but SWG crashed and burned and TOR just never took off.
BattleMonkey
Member
SWG peaked at around 400k I believe
The analyst in the OP is saying the game will have around 1.25 mil subs in another year (end of fiscal March 2013). That is far more successful than majority of MMOs released in the past decade.
Then maybe Bioware should have done something better than WoW, not do the same thing.
RPGCrazied
Member
I'll be interested when its Free2Play. But its backed by EA, so it'll never happen.
But its backed by EA, so it'll never happen.Two very different type of mmos. SWG is pure sandbox, TOR is themepark ride like Wow.
Old Republic was released way too early, and it's engame is based on an older 2008 Wow. There's going to be growing pains with it until they find their niche.
In all honesty, some of the storylines are better than anything in Kotor1/2 because the pc's are not limited as playing as the "good guys".
Bending_Unit_22
Member
That's one reason I thought I would like it more, but yeah I'm not paying $240 to play a worse KotOR.
Or it'll be virtually unplayable without major amounts of microtransactions.I'll be interested when its Free2Play.
BattleMonkey
Member
DCUO combined on two platforms was about 500k max but it went free to play in less than a year of release. This analysis guess is claiming the game will still have 1.25 mil at the end of the next March fiscal year in 2013. Seeing as they stated the game needs 500k to be profitable, the game is still going to be successful for EA at that time.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
I think the analyst is being ridiculously overoptimistic. There's no way the game will have 1.25M subs a year from now, unless EA gives them away for free or something.
Freyjadour
Member
I just can't fathom why anyone would continue to sub after the first month or two. I had planned on leveling a Repub after my Empire character hit 50, but I was done with the game after 4 weeks.
Exactly, it is very good as a co-op/single player game. It fails as a MMO (badly)
Have you played it? GAF guilds raid several times a week. End-game is almost identical to WoW in activities.