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Blizzard · Jun 9, 2012

The site appears just to be a blog:
http://7dfps.org/

As far as I can tell, there's a list of suggest resources for people to use (Unity, UDK, etc.), and basically no rules. Make an FPS in 7 days, share it with people.

Notch mentioned that he wanted to make a/the FPS component of 0x10c during this timeframe, and I'm guessing it might be playable standalone if it's part of the challenge.

I imagine no one will be doing this through the week, but hey, if anyone is, or if anyone knows any good streaming links, feel free to share!

There's a keynote video now, and just under 7 days left in the challenge.

Zombie James · Jun 9, 2012

This makes me interested in learning UDK. Any good guides?

Blizzard · Jun 9, 2012

Resource list:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq8nvlTl8YRXdDJzY1ZabHFlNEJQWnhUSlNaTWNUU0E#gid=0

Note that there's a free Unity3D Pro license available (presumably just for the duration of this contest) here: http://7dfps.org/about/

Zombie James said:
This makes me interested in learning UDK. Any good guides?

Check the start of this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=430197

rohlfinator · Jun 9, 2012

Huh, should be interesting to see what comes out of this.

I'm impressed that the tools have advanced to the point where something like this is viable. I need to give Unity3D another look sometime.

Blizzard · Jun 9, 2012

There's also an IRC channel at http://7dfps.org/chat/ if anyone wants to hang out/share suggestions etc.

I allllmost want to try it, but if I take the time to work on it I should really work on my 2D engine instead. =(

LuffyZoro · Jun 9, 2012

I looked into this yesterday, and even downloaded UDK, but was driven off by it's interface. Maybe I'll check out those guides and give it a try.

Blizzard · Jun 9, 2012

LuffyZoro said:
I looked into this yesterday, and even downloaded UDK, but was driven off by it's interface. Maybe I'll check out those guides and give it a try.

Here's a YouTube playlist for you! http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA2DE3D64B848BC63

Bear in mind if you're completely new to 3D modeling, it'll probably be easiest to try to make something using the built-in resources to start with. Trying to make your own models will take a long time unless you're experienced or you use very simple models.

Sibylus · Jun 9, 2012

I'm mighty tempted to dig through my old Left 4 Dead 2 entity experiments (scavenging scraps for a group inventory, using said scraps to craft weapons and items, grabbing gas for building power and light, etc) and throw it all together into a simple prototype map, see if it's something I want to iterate on in the future and if people like it.

IceDoesntHelp · Jun 9, 2012

Thought it was going to be about making a game that runs at 7 frames per second.
I am leaving dissatisfied.

WX3 · Jun 9, 2012

To anybody that takes this challenge on, I wish you good luck!

Blizzard · Jun 9, 2012

Well, 24 minutes until the May UDK finishes downloading. I finally wrote down some ideas, based on a Molydeux idea, so I guess I'll try something this weekend!

Spehornoob · Jun 9, 2012

I really wish I could be a part of this. But I'm at home with a satellite internet connection with a bandwidth limit. No way I can get the tools I need downloaded.

How is Unity3D to work with, anyway? I've had a few classes in XNA, Flash, that kind of stuff (graduated with a minor in game design), so I'm curious as to how it compares.

Blizzard · Jun 9, 2012

Spehornoob said:
I really wish I could be a part of this. But I'm at home with a satellite internet connection with a bandwidth limit. No way I can get the tools I need downloaded.

How is Unity3D to work with, anyway? I've had a few classes in XNA, Flash, that kind of stuff (graduated with a minor in game design), so I'm curious as to how it compares.

I think I went into it mostly blind and taught myself to make a mimesweeper game over a weekend. But that wasn't a FPS camera. However, a FPS camera probably wouldn't be bad since if I recall correctly they ahve a few different camera modes built in.

Hootie · Jun 9, 2012

this is how the COD:MW games are created, right?

Prophet Steve · Jun 9, 2012

Spehornoob said:
I really wish I could be a part of this. But I'm at home with a satellite internet connection with a bandwidth limit. No way I can get the tools I need downloaded.

How is Unity3D to work with, anyway? I've had a few classes in XNA, Flash, that kind of stuff (graduated with a minor in game design), so I'm curious as to how it compares.

Unity3D works pretty different, but works very well. It is focused on 3D an excellent design tool, you can move the objects around in a 3D world without touching code. But making a 3D FPS in such a short time with little experience might be hard.

Spehornoob · Jun 9, 2012

Prophet Steve said:
Unity3D works pretty different, but works very well. It is focused on 3D an excellent design tool, you can move the objects around in a 3D world without touching code. But making a 3D FPS in such a short time with little experience might be hard.

I see. Well, this has at least piqued my interest in it. I'll have to tinker with it sometime and see if I can come up with anything cool.

Blizzard · Jun 9, 2012

After a couple of hours of messing around off and on, I have my amazing level set up. There's a black sky sphere, and a TRON grid in the background! But you can't step on it, because I have high-tech blocking volumes around my main play platform.

BAM

Blizzard · Jun 10, 2012

Here's one of the coolest work in progress things I've seen so far, from a guy who's using Unity3D with Beast: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11859630/vrac/Gameplay.mp4

XANDER CAGE · Jun 10, 2012

Blizzard said:
Here's one of the coolest work in progress things I've seen so far, from a guy who's using Unity3D with Beast: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11859630/vrac/Gameplay.mp4

First person VVVVVV? I'll take 10.

bernardobri · Jun 10, 2012

Blizzard said:
Here's one of the coolest work in progress things I've seen so far, from a guy who's using Unity3D with Beast: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11859630/vrac/Gameplay.mp4

I said wow. :O

RooMHM · Jun 10, 2012

Blizzard said:
Here's one of the coolest work in progress things I've seen so far, from a guy who's using Unity3D with Beast: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11859630/vrac/Gameplay.mp4

Looks good but, not an FPS (yet)?

Blizzard · Jun 10, 2012

RooMHM said:
Looks good but, not an FPS (yet)?

That was my problem trying to come up with an idea. I had some things that might work in first-person view, but they wouldn't technically be SHOOTERS.

Tomat · Jun 10, 2012

Sounds fun but I don't have any experience with anything!

Emitan · Jun 10, 2012

If you like this, you should check out the 7 Day Roguelike Challenge

Blizzard · Jun 10, 2012

I wasted about 4 hours today refreshing my memory on all the Blender -> UDK keyboard shortcuts, modeling, texturing, UV unwrapping, exporting, and importing stuff I used to know but forgot because it's been months ago. I got things working though, but I -still- haven't yet prototyped the main mechanic I wanted to try. Dinner time!

Prophet Steve · Jun 10, 2012

Blizzard said:
Here's one of the coolest work in progress things I've seen so far, from a guy who's using Unity3D with Beast: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11859630/vrac/Gameplay.mp4

This will cause some huge motion sickness for people. Maybe the idea can work.

Blizzard · Jun 15, 2012

Today being the last day (7 hours left), I naturally am nowhere close to having a game. As far as I recall I basically only worked Saturday afternoon, Sunday, and last night, however, so I guess that's not a lot of time. I'm still going to poke at it a bit more this afternoon. Did anyone else try?

Blizzard · Jun 15, 2012

Here are some screenshots since the end of the competition is somewhere around now. I'm not submitting anything, but I think I've done about 3 days work counting last weekend and this weekend, so hopefully the practice/educational experience was useful. This afternoon I did get one of the main mechanics working I wanted to do:

The weapon is a rocket launcher that can be toggled to drop little node blocks instead, which auto-link to the closest existing node. My end goal was to do Molydeux's suggestion of a tactical shooter that required you to be close to an electrical socket to use your gun or whatever.

For a puzzle mode, you would presumably have a limited number of nodes and sockets, and once you placed the sockets, you could maybe teleport (or just normally travel) back and forth between them trying to shoot several targets as quickly as possible. Placement of the sockets would dictate how quickly you could do it.

For a multiplayer mode, maybe both players would be trying to do that sort of thing, or you could have nodes and sockets possibly be destroyed or captured by the other player. That would be more complex and I figure it's really hard to get anyone to actually test a multiplayer game, however, so I'd rather have singleplayer/puzzle at least as an option.

Blizzard · Jun 16, 2012

That Mirror's Edge meets VVVVVV meets Portal game prototype is up, playable via web browser:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/Chman/flipd

Unfortunately there's no video yet. Project page here: http://7dfps.org/?projects=all-it-takes-is-a-little-push

Dennis · Jun 16, 2012

7 frames per second?

I game like that all the time already!

Blizzard · Jun 16, 2012

OK it's supposed to be short and I'm only a couple of maps in, but...PEOPLE SHOULD TRY THIS GAME and let the guy know if you like it. He might extend it.

It plays really well in the Unity web player, super smooth. Even the music kind of reminds me of Mirror's Edge.

jediyoshi · Jun 16, 2012

Blizzard said:
That Mirror's Edge meets VVVVVV meets Portal game prototype is up, playable via web browser:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/Chman/flipd

Unfortunately there's no video yet. Project page here: http://7dfps.org/?projects=all-it-takes-is-a-little-push

Oh lord that runs smooth. Wish there was a way from them to indicate that you're flipped rather than rotating the view to its new position, that part of it makes it a little disorienting.

Lathentar · Jun 16, 2012

Blizzard said:
OK it's supposed to be short and I'm only a couple of maps in, but...PEOPLE SHOULD TRY THIS GAME and let the guy know if you like it. He might extend it.

It plays really well in the Unity web player, super smooth. Even the music kind of reminds me of Mirror's Edge.

Lots of fun, I got stuck about 5 levels in. A massive improvement to the game would be the option to look around at the place you died. I'm falling into water from a pit and have no idea where to go and no real way to learn.

Jackson · Jun 16, 2012

This is hilarious. I like this.

Rekubot · Jun 16, 2012

It's got potential, but a bit too disorientating I think. The timing on that 4th (5th?) level is a pain in the ass.

Blizzard · Jun 16, 2012

Rekubot said:
It's got potential, but a bit too disorientating I think. The timing on that 4th (5th?) level is a pain in the ass.

Yeah, he's got a bunch of notes and ideas on it. He said he didn't manage sleep for the first three days properly, but still it's pretty neat in comparison to how a lot of the FPS look.

Did anyone find the secret? I finished it, and the secret is apparently in level

4

. I'm still looking.

Jackson · Jun 16, 2012

Rekubot said:
It's got potential, but a bit too disorientating I think. The timing on that 4th (5th?) level is a pain in the ass.

Played it. Meeeeeeh. The baked AO looks nice and the idea is sort of interesting, but not great.

I'm not feeling it, even if it had more polish (which it totally needs).

Zia · Jun 16, 2012

Really liked Jan (from Vlambeer) 's Western Hour. Apparently it's getting finished sometime this week. Hope he ports it to Mac.

Doubt it.

Blizzard · Jun 17, 2012

Jackson said:
Played it. Meeeeeeh. The baked AO looks nice and the idea is sort of interesting, but not great.

I'm not feeling it, even if it had more polish (which it totally needs).

D'oh, I thought you were praising it earlier but I spoke too soon.

At any rate, the guy said that if he did make it into a more finished product, it would be much different than the prototype here.

Thanks for the link, Zia. Any other good ones?

*edit* Here's a video run of the Chman one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A6xC3ZhSeY

Hazaro · Jun 17, 2012

Always like the speed contests.

phantomsnake · Jun 17, 2012

My entry for 7DFPS is Cosmic Run. It's an abstract FPS set in space where you have to constantly keep moving because the world behind you is falling apart. It's pretty short (for now) but you can compete for high scores. There's also a slightly updated version on Kongregate with music and leaderboards.

7DFPS project: http://7dfps.org/?projects=4181
Kongregate game page: http://www.kongregate.com/games/phantomsnake/cosmic-run

Blizzard · Jun 17, 2012

phantomsnake said:
My entry for 7DFPS is Cosmic Run. It's an abstract FPS set in space where you have to constantly keep moving because the world behind you is falling apart. It's pretty short (for now) but you can compete for high scores. There's also a slightly updated version on Kongregate with music and leaderboards.

7DFPS project: http://7dfps.org/?projects=4181
Kongregate game page: http://www.kongregate.com/games/phantomsnake/cosmic-run

Interesting idea. I had extreme difficulty landing and staying on a platform until I finally figured out that instead of keeping your momentum from jumps, you seem to instantly change your direction if you turn midair. Turning sideways before landing seems to make you fall short of your target for instance.

I also felt like the sensitivity was too high, but that might just be me. Cool backgrounds.

phantomsnake · Jun 17, 2012

Blizzard said:

The game looks great! Love the dark Tron-like look. I looked through all the entries on 7DFPS before realizing you didn't submit it. :\

Blizzard said:
Interesting idea. I had extreme difficulty landing and staying on a platform until I finally figured out that instead of keeping your momentum from jumps, you seem to instantly change your direction if you turn midair. Turning sideways before landing seems to make you fall short of your target for instance.

I also felt like the sensitivity was too high, but that might just be me. Cool backgrounds.

Someone on the 7DFPS website made the same comment about player momentum in the air. I think I agree that the player's momentum should be maintained but I like the ability to maneuver in midair. I'll have to take another look at the controls and see what I can do.

Mouse sensitivity is definitely an issue. I'll be adding some options for that today.

Thanks for checking it out!

dark_prinny · Jun 17, 2012

Next COD: Incoming

Blizzard · Jun 17, 2012

phantomsnake said:
The game looks great! Love the dark Tron-like look. I looked through all the entries on 7DFPS before realizing you didn't submit it. :\

Sorry, I tried to indicate that.

I might still mess with it, but of course since it's UDK it wouldn't have the nice web player option like Unity3D, so it would be a huge download and no one would ever try it, haha.

phantomsnake · Jun 17, 2012

Blizzard said:
Sorry, I tried to indicate that.

I might still mess with it, but of course since it's UDK it wouldn't have the nice web player option like Unity3D, so it would be a huge download and no one would ever try it, haha.

You did, I just missed it.

It's too bad there's no web player for UDK. On the other hand, I bet it's a much better tool for making an FPS... I saw some UDK games in 7DFPS with fully playable multiplayer. That's impressive!

Here's another awesome 7DFPS game: http://7dfps.org/?projects=fabric

Author's description: "A first person puzzle platform game about bending the fabric of the universe." You shoot two points in the world to collapse the space between them. It's really cool.

Blizzard · Jun 17, 2012

phantomsnake said:
You did, I just missed it.

It's too bad there's no web player for UDK. On the other hand, I bet it's a much better tool for making an FPS... I saw some UDK games in 7DFPS with fully playable multiplayer. That's impressive!

Here's another awesome 7DFPS game: http://7dfps.org/?projects=fabric

Author's description: "A first person puzzle platform game about bending the fabric of the universe." You shoot two points in the world to collapse the space between them. It's really cool.

That looks kind of cool, and I managed to finish a couple of levels, but the mouse sensitivity is HORRIBLE. It's even higher than your game, and I would barely move the mouse to spin around. Plus the cursor kept escaping, which didn't happen in either of the other games linked earlier in the thread.

phantomsnake · Jun 18, 2012

I did a bunch of UI work on the game today. The UI was super rushed during 7DFPS so I really wanted to fix it up.

Look! Mouse sensitivity sliders!

Tomorrow I'm going to tackle the gameplay itself.

Hazaro · Jun 18, 2012

That looks great dude

TheYanger · Jun 18, 2012

phantomsnake said:
I did a bunch of UI work on the game today. The UI was super rushed during 7DFPS so I really wanted to fix it up.

Look! Mouse sensitivity sliders!

Tomorrow I'm going to tackle the gameplay itself.

Any chance at inversion? Game seems pretty fun

But impossible for old school inverted style players like me

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