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Sony's Scott Rohde on Protecting Studios and Vita's Advantage over Wii U
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'd love for them to do something special right now, though. They also promised that Remote Play would be better and it is still terrible.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
I think the /thread thing is cliche, but really there isn't much else to be said. Making the comparison between Wii U and Vita as control methods is silly in the first place.
If they nail remote play (i.e. make remote play work for EVERY game) then they could totally justify that $250 price
phosphor112
Banned
I'm still lost at the title.
onQ123
Member
but you can also leave your home & still play games on it. it's not like you're paying $250 just to use it as a PS3 companion.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Sony can't even justify Vita on its own right now and you want them to do it as a 250 dollar accessory?
LiquidSolid
Member
I question the idea of "protecting" their studios from supporting one of Sony's own fucking products. This is why their company is a mess, because there's no co-ordination, there's no plan and nobody f'n talks to each other.
but need to buy the same game twice
onQ123
Member
Not all games do this.
remember that most vita owners own a ps3!
onQ123
Member
he said that you need to buy the game twice I showed a example of a game where you didn't need to buy it twice.
lordfroakie
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Wonderbook!
DR2K
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It'll eventually be the price of a Wii U controller.
lordfroakie
Member
Vita is a video-game system that can partially act as a Wii U gamepad. However, Sony can't make it a standard to any degree. First off, from a sales perspective, Vita is struggling. Not everyone who has a PS3 will have a Vita, so Sony can't rely on it. However, that is not to say that Sony ought to bring forth the technology to allow such a thing to happen, if it isn't a standard. My point is that they'll be spending money on features for something with a dismal install-base.
You should really explain this to Sony. Because some of their Vita commercials have sure made it appear as an accessory to the PS3 while touting this exact feature. People talk about Nintendo screwing up the messaging for the Wii U... honestly, Sony isn't doing much better right now. And it's a shame, 'cause it is a decent feature. I'm not sure it's a huge selling point for me, but it might be for some people. But every time they talk about it they marginalize the Vita while making its price point seem completely outlandish.
Barkley's Justice
Member
ever see that episode of south park where everything stan sees and hears is shit?
Remote Play runs off of WiFi, and is really just running in PSP mode on Vita right now. I believe the LBP2 Demo was not a WiFi situation, but some magic voodoo we don't know about.
Because it's not based on remote play at all?
Only input data is sent over wifi. PSV portion of the game is being rendered locally via a resident client.
How many competitors are in the same situation (home console and handheld, handheld capable of sharing games, handheld desperate for a software library to boost sales)?
That's all well and good that the vita can do some crazy stuff with the PS3 and I'm looking forward to that, but instead of telling us it has the potential, I'd much rather be shown 
Playstation 4 + Vita integration could be pretty cool. I imagine it's possible to have the PS4 process the data and send it to the vita just like the Wii U does.
Playstation 4 + Vita integration could be pretty cool. I imagine it's possible to have the PS4 process the data and send it to the vita just like the Wii U does.
Eventually.
You have to factor in the fact that someone from Sony (I don't remember who) recently said that there are no planned price-cuts in the foreseeable future. I don't see why they would. They're already taking a loss on the system for three years, and on top of that, it's not selling great. They've also spent money on R&D for the PS4 and eventually, they will also spend money on manufacturing the actual PS4. Hell, the simple fact that Vita is marketed as a separate system (which it is) and not as an add-on to a PS3 makes a huge difference alone.
So what you're saying is the key to understanding Sony PR is to just never be sober again?
Of course they can. And so can every other tech showcase Sony releases. But in the end, Sony will give it middling support and then forget it, as they do with every last one of these tech innovations they come up with lately. They never have enough faith in their own new products to put their company behind them. They do stuff like this to check boxes and, thus, it will never realize its full potential.
mclaren777
Member
Sony should adopt Microsoft's new pricing model.
$0 down and $10/month for the next two years.
Raitosaito
Member
If Nintendo's tablet controller is >$99 Sony might be able to compete on the 2 screen front.
I dunno, he seems to have done a pretty thorough job of shielding Sony's top-tier studios from the Vita.
Features like the Vita as a second screen are nearly worthless because no games are going to be designed around it. Nobody's going to make a PS3 game that assumes you have a Vita. Lots of developers will make Wii U games that assume you have a Wiipad. The most Sony can hope for are a few games with tacked on Vita functionality before the feature is largely forgotten.
I don't know why folks complain like this....what product have they "forgotten" about?
I think everything they wanted to do with the PS3 tech wise and their products have reached their full potential with the game Datura...its like you are in a holodeck.
PS3 (creating the realistic world, surround sound), PSEYE, Move, 3D Game, 3D Headset.
Just out of curiousity, if Sony were somehow able to sell both the PS4+Vita together for say $400/$450 does anyone think that would be a solid move on their part? I'm not sure how much it costs them to sell the Vita, and we know so little about the PS4 at this point that knowing what kind of a loss they would take is somewhat impossible, but if they could do it, I could see it being a smart move.
I mean by the time the PS4 is released Vita parts will more than likely have come down by then so maybe it could be a possiblity that Sony could sell a PS4, with a Vita as the bundled controller?
It could also be part of their long term plan, basically let the Vita build a solid catalog for now and garner some sales, then sell it bundled with the main console to give it a much larger boost later on?
This is just speculation on my part obviously, but I do think think it be interesting to see how it could work for them.
would you rather the majority of their first party be wasting time by pushing out more PS3 games, or working on the PS4 games? The PS3 is only going to last so much longer, they need to shift development at some point to make the launch of their new console worth something.
I would love to see the guys at ND, SSM, GG, etc working on Vita games, but sadly at this point SCEA, and SCEE are a huge part of what makes their consoles worth owning and they only have so many resources to make so many games. I could imagine there was some sort of power struggle between SCEA, and SCEJ over the Vita because SCEA's best are the major content providers for the PS3, and will likely be on PS4 aswell. Things would probably be alot better if SCEJ were worth anything(not counting PD of course).
I mean by the time the PS4 is released Vita parts will more than likely have come down by then so maybe it could be a possiblity that Sony could sell a PS4, with a Vita as the bundled controller?
It could also be part of their long term plan, basically let the Vita build a solid catalog for now and garner some sales, then sell it bundled with the main console to give it a much larger boost later on?
This is just speculation on my part obviously, but I do think think it be interesting to see how it could work for them.
would you rather the majority of their first party be wasting time by pushing out more PS3 games, or working on the PS4 games? The PS3 is only going to last so much longer, they need to shift development at some point to make the launch of their new console worth something.
I would love to see the guys at ND, SSM, GG, etc working on Vita games, but sadly at this point SCEA, and SCEE are a huge part of what makes their consoles worth owning and they only have so many resources to make so many games. I could imagine there was some sort of power struggle between SCEA, and SCEJ over the Vita because SCEA's best are the major content providers for the PS3, and will likely be on PS4 aswell. Things would probably be alot better if SCEJ were worth anything(not counting PD of course).
Vita needs to build up a solid library of games now. It needs to have a system-seller title this year and shouldn't rely on Capcom to pull a "Monster Hunter" for it. Everything falls on Sony to increase the install base and give it the most support. Sony said that it will be selling PS Vita at loss for up to 3 years (at this rate it may be forced to do an early price cut). There's no way at all PS4 + Vita bundle is going to be priced between $400-450 even if Vita were to get a $50-100 price cut.Now, if this were the PS3 bundle, then it would be a different story.