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Bill Nye Needs You to Help Save Planetary Exploration
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ElectricBlanketFire
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I'm Bill Nye'd out these days.
Atramental
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Bumping for science's sake.
FO-totality
Poet Centuriate
"SCIENCE RULES!"
BertramCooper
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I hear the jury's still out on science.
A jury? Sounds too complicated for me.
Partial Gamification
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Shameless bump, Bill Nye rules!
Listen to this and get back on the Bill train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwG2newDukk&feature=related
legacyzero
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This needs to happen.
EDIT: And DAMN Bill's gettin old.
EDIT2: Which means I'M GETTING OLD.
EDIT: And DAMN Bill's gettin old.
EDIT2: Which means I'M GETTING OLD.
There can be only one!Why not both?
The cancellation of the Superconducting Super Collider was one of the biggest mistakes our country has ever made scientifically. It would have had collision energies five times that of the LHC and we probably would have found the Higgs Boson back around 2001/2002 (not to mention the immense good injecting thousands of the world's best particle physicists into Southern Texas would have done for the local infrastructure and education). It is so unbelievably pathetic that it was cancelled because of budget issues (it was projected to cost $12 billion when it was cancelled) and yet we now have $16 trillion in debt. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I guess the moral of the story is not to let the same thing happen to the world class talent at JPL and NASA.
Partial Gamification
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We ought to be building accelerators in space. Something like opposite arrays in orbit around Mercury that "funnel" particles coming from the sun for a collision that detectors can measure. Eh, that's sci-fi. Is CERN blasting a specific element or neutrons? Would the solar wind allow for such a particle stream? I think we might need more planetary exploration to find out. It is win-win for almost every science! Believe me dammit, I'm trying to virtually twist your arm into a bearhug for Bill Nye. Please, think of the childern.
Don't you have a heart? 
Nah, I want know what's beyond the standard model and fastes way to find out is build more and more colliders! I want to see muons colliding anti-muons or elctron-positron collider. Fuck Nye!We ought to be building accelerators in space. Something like opposite arrays in orbit around Mercury that "funnel" particles coming from the sun for a collision that detectors can measure. Eh, that's sci-fi. Is CERN blasting a specific element or neutrons? Would the solar wind allow for such a particle stream? I think we might need more planetary exploration to find out. It is win-win for almost every science! Believe me dammit, I'm trying to virtually twist your arm into a bearhug for Bill Nye. Please, think of the childern.Don't you have a heart?
Long live mophead... Physcis need better PR figures
Nah, I want know what's beyond the standard model and fastes way to find out is build more and more colliders! I want to see muons colliding anti-muons or elctron-positron collider. Fuck Nye!
Long live mophead... Physcis need better PR figures
Not our fault that the rest of the world isn't very good at long term thinking.
Captain Chaos
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This g is rocking a bow tie, damn.
Atramental
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Yes.
Partial Gamification
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I'm torn because it is true that particle physics has come to deepen our understanding of the Universe at least as much as the other end of the scale. Losing that collider in Texas[?] was a damn shame. I just think that when it comes to the resource (money) allocation we are at a point where these subjects need to be sold to the public to ensure [growing] support in the next generations. This planetary exploration just seems to me more tangible than quantum structures; but again this is not to lessen the importance of it. I guess I'm torn becauzse I feel it is a "science marketing decision" when it comes to how we choose to divide Federal Funding. Hey, start a petition to restore the collider budget and I will write the President for that too.Nah, I want know what's beyond the standard model and fastes way to find out is build more and more colliders! I want to see muons colliding anti-muons or elctron-positron collider. Fuck Nye!
Long live mophead... Physcis need better PR figures
Cool.
Atramental
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Atramental
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I like Bill, but I'm on Obama's side for this one. They need to cut the program and reboot the fucker. NASA has been doing ok, but under the control of the 80s conservatives they still had blinders on, and were still chained to a 200 ton weight. Nixon wasn't Mr. Space, no matter what happened under his tenure, he didn't build that. And the Republicans have always and ever only used the space program as a public relations resource, and have always been content to cut or block things behind the scenes. Now actual responsible cuts are necessary for the next phase, because with the dead-ending of the Shuttle, we need a new direction, and a new way of running things.
We need to realize that this is pruning, not hacking and not chopping. Instead of seeing the Obama administration as an enemy of space science, people need to examine and see if there's something else here at work. NASA has operated as a billion dollar space ferry service for the last 25 or so years, because the shuttle program never took off, and has always been lamed, and then took major hits that severely damaged the culture of NASA and space science in general with the lost spacecraft and the safety based restrictions on action and thought that followed. And then the follow up, almost 4 decades after Apollo was more Apollo? I think we should have done better than Constellation and Aries, so I'm willing to cut back and force the engineers to go back to the drawing board. We need to focus on space science culture, and legacy, plan the future. If that means a break in the present, I say fine.
We need to realize that this is pruning, not hacking and not chopping. Instead of seeing the Obama administration as an enemy of space science, people need to examine and see if there's something else here at work. NASA has operated as a billion dollar space ferry service for the last 25 or so years, because the shuttle program never took off, and has always been lamed, and then took major hits that severely damaged the culture of NASA and space science in general with the lost spacecraft and the safety based restrictions on action and thought that followed. And then the follow up, almost 4 decades after Apollo was more Apollo? I think we should have done better than Constellation and Aries, so I'm willing to cut back and force the engineers to go back to the drawing board. We need to focus on space science culture, and legacy, plan the future. If that means a break in the present, I say fine.
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Neuromancer
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I'd rather the government put that money towards invading a poor Middle Eastern country.
GhostWriter24
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We don't invade, we "liberate".
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