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chadskin · Feb 18, 2014

Thief outputs at a native 1080p resolution on PlayStation 4 and a native 900p resolution on Xbox One, Square Enix has confirmed to Eurogamer.

Both versions run at 30 frames per second.

The difference in resolution with Thief isn't quite as stark as it is with Call of Duty and Metal Gear Solid. Thief's resolution on Xbox One mirror's that of Assassin's Creed 4 and Ryse, both of which output at 900p and 30fps on Xbox One.

"You really need good eyes to see the difference," game director Nicolas Cantin told Eurogamer of the resolution difference between PS4 and Xbox One, before insisting the Xbox One version "is as good as the PS4 version".

For Cantin, and others on the design team, the Xbox One version's resolution "doesn't make much of a difference".

"As developers, no," he continued. "As engineers, yeah. The engineers, for sure. But for us, as creative director or art director or level designer, we gave the same data. After that it's a more technological aspect of the game. The engineers have to manage that."

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scitek · Feb 18, 2014

That's fine.

DieH@rd · Feb 18, 2014

Because this is Thief...... i expect 2 page thread.

aurahack · Feb 18, 2014

Portugeezer · Feb 18, 2014

How much percentage difference is that?

scitek · Feb 18, 2014

DieH@rd said:
Because this is Thief...... 2 page thread.

You're right. It should really be just because it doesn't surprise anybody anymore, though. It's about time to find a new thing to brew controversy over methinks.

EGOMON · Feb 18, 2014

Was hoping for 1080p@60fps at least on PS4 oh well

EchoChamber · Feb 18, 2014

DieH@rd said:
Because this is Thief...... i expect 2 page thread.

But is a console wars thread now so...153 page thread

chubigans · Feb 18, 2014

scitek said:
That's fine.

Is it though.

Is it?

bombshell · Feb 18, 2014

DieH@rd said:
Because this is Thief...... i expect 2 page thread.

The rumour thread reached 12 pages before being locked due to derailing

Lactose_Intolerant · Feb 18, 2014

DieH@rd said:
Because this is Thief...... 2 page thread.

Derrick was half the posts in older threads, too bad he's banned now

"You really need good eyes to see the difference," game director Nicolas Cantin told Eurogamer of the resolution difference between PS4 and Xbox One, before insisting the Xbox One version "is as good as the PS4 version".

People need to just stop saying this.

"As developers, no," he continued. "As engineers, yeah. The engineers, for sure. But for us, as creative director or art director or level designer, we gave the same data. After that it's a more technological aspect of the game. The engineers have to manage that."

This is what you say. 900p + upscaling changes how the game looks

Shrike_Priest · Feb 18, 2014

Cool.

To be honest, 1080-900 isn't that huge a difference. That said, if you have the option to go with the 1080 one, why not?

Bluekaveli · Feb 18, 2014

Welp.

SuicidalSteve · Feb 18, 2014

whats yours is 900p

adamsapple · Feb 18, 2014

DieH@rd said:
Because this is Thief...... i expect 2 page thread.

You're kidding yourself

It's gonna be at least page 4 till we see the first Major Nelson gifs or twitter quotes.

glaurung · Feb 18, 2014

Meh. Will try on PC before looking into the PS4 version.

LiK · Feb 18, 2014

I don't understand why XOne keeps getting 900 max resolutions. Is Forza the only 1080p on the system?

OneUh8 · Feb 18, 2014

Shocked

thuway · Feb 18, 2014

Yay I was right.

REV 09 · Feb 18, 2014

if MS can keep parity and achieve 900p then that'll be fine for the gen. 720p needs to die though.

King_Moc · Feb 18, 2014

900p was obvious to spot in ps4 Battlefield. That goes for any below native resolution. It just looks bad.

EagleEyes · Feb 18, 2014

I don't mind that difference in resolution as long as the framerate is the same on both versions and there is no screen tearing.

rjc571 · Feb 18, 2014

Shrike_Priest said:
Cool.

To be honest, 1080-900 isn't that huge a difference. That said, if you have the option to go with the 1080 one, why not?

It makes a huge difference in image quality when one of them has to be upscaled on your TV. Upscaling artifacts will make any game look like garbage.

ethomaz · Feb 18, 2014

It is getting boring already.

Multiplatforms sucks on one platform compared to other.

ekim · Feb 18, 2014

LiK said:
I don't understand why XOne keeps getting 900 max resolutions. Is Forza the only 1080p on the system?

NFS:Rivals, Kinect Sports, Zoo Tycoon, Fifa 14, NBA 2k14, Tomb Raider, Skylanders are all 1080p native.

Mondy · Feb 18, 2014

Haven't we had this thread like 3 times now?

McDougles · Feb 18, 2014

While the 900-1080p gap is not as bad at it would be from 720p, there's still roughly a third higher pixel count on the PS4. Saying the Xbox One version "is as good as the PS4 version" does a disservice to the consumer, but...industry relations...

skybald · Feb 18, 2014

Fine by me

Shrike_Priest · Feb 18, 2014

rjc571 said:
It makes a huge difference in image quality when one of them has to be upscaled on your TV. Upscaling artifacts will make any game look like garbage.

I've looked at the Assassin's Creed stuff, and apart from the horrible contrast/detail-filter thing that they removed, I wouldn't say the difference is huge. Note that I have a PS4 and no intention of buying an Xbox One anytime soon, I'm just saying we've seen lots worse examples (720-1080 MGSV is waaay more obvious).

glaurung · Feb 18, 2014

Mondy said:
Haven't we had this thread like 3 times now?

It's different now since it has been confirmed from the horse's mouth.

CaptainTiptop · Feb 18, 2014

before insisting the Xbox One version "is as good as the PS4 version".

Whatever you say.

Chobel · Feb 18, 2014

"You really need good eyes to see the difference,"

Jesus fucking Christ! Stop with this bullshit.

PFD · Feb 18, 2014

The game looks far worse than ACIV from what I've seen. I was expecting better res/fps.

Dictator93 · Feb 18, 2014

"You really need good eyes to see the difference"

Man I know these guys are SELLLING a PRODUCT... and trying to make everyone happy, but statements like this make me shake my head.

Shrike_Priest · Feb 18, 2014

Mondy said:
Haven't we had this thread like 3 times now?

It's gonna keep happening indefinitely unless the Xbox crashes and burns. As long as multiplats are released, they're going to be compared.

jiggles · Feb 18, 2014

Play without your glasses and you won't be able to tell the difference!

UnrealEck · Feb 18, 2014

Now I wonder how it'll run on PC. I've seen a video of it on a 7970 but no idea what the frame rate was.

jiminycracken · Feb 18, 2014

chubigans said:
Is it though.

Is it?

yes.

OT: Like I pointed out in the other thread, 900p vs 1080p is a 44% difference, which matches up to the estimated 50% difference in power.

As an Xbox One owner, I'm completely fine with having 900p30 or 720p60 games vs when the PS4 has 1080p30 or 900p60, and I'm willing to bet that's how it's going to be most of this gen.

Angelcurio · Feb 18, 2014

After seeing the 17 minute (or was it 13?) preview, i still do not understand why this game isn't running at 60fps on either console, considering that graphically it looks pretty much like a game stuck between the last gen and the new current gen.

Portugeezer · Feb 18, 2014

Dictator93 said:
Man I know these guys are SELLLING a PRODUCT... and trying to make everyone happy, but statements like this make me shake my head.

He could have said something better.

R3TRO · Feb 18, 2014

Expected, I hope the game is good.

Hurley · Feb 18, 2014

"You really need good eyes to see the difference,"

adamsapple · Feb 18, 2014

Chobel said:
Jesus fucking Christ! Stop with this bullshit.

What do you expect them to do ? ask people not to buy one of the SKU's that they've spent equal development time and resources on ?

Chobel · Feb 18, 2014

At least now I know that I have really good eyes. Thanks Nicolas Cantin

chandoog said:
What do you expect them to do ? ask people not to buy one of the SKU's that they've spent equal development time and resources on ?

Nice straw-man there. I'm sure they had no option but to say that bullshit.

/s

Here's some suggestions for them.
* don't talk
* Say the game it's still good even if it's 900p.

SFenton · Feb 18, 2014

Dictator93 said:
Man I know these guys are SELLLING a PRODUCT... and trying to make everyone happy, but statements like this make me shake my head.

I personally can't tell the difference between BF4/AC4 on PS4 and XB1 (I have XB1, my roommate has PS4). I can tell the difference between CoD though.

Saya Brea · Feb 18, 2014

jiggles said:
Play without your glasses and you won't be able to tell the difference!

I know at least one person who wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the game and a wall without his glasses.

shinobi602 · Feb 18, 2014

Chobel said:
Jesus fucking Christ! Stop with this bullshit.

Dictator93 said:
Man I know these guys are SELLLING a PRODUCT... and trying to make everyone happy, but statements like this make me shake my head.

To be completely neutral, the difference between 1080p and 900p is a lot harder to see than 1080p->720p. I remember around launch looking at PS4's 900p vs 1080p screens of BF4 from DF and having to really analyze to see the differences.

RayMaker · Feb 18, 2014

i wonder if the resolution/framerate will have parity on both platforms ever.

maybe the X1 is stacked?

whats with the numbers underneth?

Gammacide · Feb 18, 2014

Good to hear as a PS4 owner.

Pretty excited to get back into that atmosphere again despite the potential gripes re: a reboot of a loved franchise.

LiK · Feb 18, 2014

ekim said:
NFS:Rivals, Kinect Sports, Zoo Tycoon, Fifa 14, NBA 2k14, Tomb Raider, Skylanders are all 1080p native.

Oh really? Thought they were upscaled. Good to know

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