A fascinating insight about process and tech at Naughty Dog. Talk given by Jason Gregory (lead programmer):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XdvIO8JxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XdvIO8JxE
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Talk: Insights Into the Development Process and Key Technologies Used by Naughty Dog
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gundamkyoukai
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Nice will give it a watch later .
EDIT some really good stuff showing you how ND works .
EDIT some really good stuff showing you how ND works .
anexanhume
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Listening now. Thanks for the link.
Cool stuff.
Talks briefly about their PS4 engine - just to say that it's using a new job system, quite similar to the SPU job model on PS3, but also extends now to GPGPU. Gives a little example of PS4 cache optimisation, just as an example of why knowing your hardware is good.
Talks briefly about their PS4 engine - just to say that it's using a new job system, quite similar to the SPU job model on PS3, but also extends now to GPGPU. Gives a little example of PS4 cache optimisation, just as an example of why knowing your hardware is good.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Presentations like this really makes you appreciate just how intelligent and hard working these people are. For instance, when you are in college, you learn math equations invented by someone else. Some pioneer had to think that up before you learned it. Your a smart guy (or gal) but your probably not smart enough to just invent equations of thin air to solve things. You are better at using existing formulas and plugging in data to make use of that.
These guys (software guys in general, not just Naughty Dog) are literally being pioneers who invent as they go. Heck they often invent one thing, and then toss it out for either an evolution of that or something entirely different that they invented. Some things stay in use for so little time, no one outside the company picks it up. They are just as impressive as famous mathematicians of old but get none of the fame. You can't help but be impressed by what they do. And they do it all just so we can spend an afternoon entertained. I feel bad for the shit developers go through when a game tanks.
These guys (software guys in general, not just Naughty Dog) are literally being pioneers who invent as they go. Heck they often invent one thing, and then toss it out for either an evolution of that or something entirely different that they invented. Some things stay in use for so little time, no one outside the company picks it up. They are just as impressive as famous mathematicians of old but get none of the fame. You can't help but be impressed by what they do. And they do it all just so we can spend an afternoon entertained. I feel bad for the shit developers go through when a game tanks.
GG mentioned it in February 2013 but it hasn't been mentioned since final dev kits came out.
bernardobri
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Thanks I remembered that now.
Is it possible that this can be reduced later on once the OS has matured?
I was there. It was pretty good.
The room was packed and we almost gave him a standing ovation. The following conference was a guy from EA Sports, way less people.
The audience questions were a little bland (one guy wanted to know about PC development) but the talk was great.
He also talked about how much RAM the OS of the PS4 used, I mentioned it on another thread.
The room was packed and we almost gave him a standing ovation. The following conference was a guy from EA Sports, way less people.
The audience questions were a little bland (one guy wanted to know about PC development) but the talk was great.
He also talked about how much RAM the OS of the PS4 used, I mentioned it on another thread.
Dragon1893
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Thanks for the link.
George Claw M.D.
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I'm right around the 34:45 mark now, and he says devs have about 5GB of RAM to work with. So I guess the OS takes 3GB?
anexanhume
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Yeah, around the 45 min mark he confirms 2 reserved cores for OS and states that the GPU is a little more powerful than it needs to be to run games at 1080p60 and extra resources are for GPGPU.
I forgot he mentioned that, what I mentioned here was the RAM. He seemed pretty happy with the overall specs and confirmed a bunch of already rumoured stuff.
That was my understanding to when I was there.
lol
anexanhume
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Link to your other post please if you don't mind.
The good thing about these limits is that they can go away. They can up the RAM to 6GB or 6.5GB if they want and just require a firmware upgrade to play a certain game. It's been done before and the people who have no access to the internet anywhere to at least update off a USB stick is pretty slim.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Great talk overall, I was there.
I loved how he just confirmed they had 6 cores available and 5GB of ram to use.
I loved how he just confirmed they had 6 cores available and 5GB of ram to use.
Oof.
I say god dayum
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