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Less than half under age 35 worldwide are aware of the Holocaust
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GoldenEye 007
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Yeah, people keep on shittin on history majors!
HomerSimpson-Man
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And this is the most well known, considering the acts of mass murdering genocide throughout the world decades later even more easily forgotten like Rwanda, Cambodia's Killing Fields.....it's depressing to see so many people be forgotten.
Humanity keeps letting it happen.
Humanity keeps letting it happen.
disappeared
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Somehow that doesn't surprise me.
everyday math
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Wtf? This should be taught in every history class. Mine did at least.
AbsolutBro
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I'd be curious exactly which countries were included in the poll. The fact that people in the Palestinian territories agreed with at least 6 negative stereotypes of Jews shouldn't be shocking to anyone. I can't imagine being treated like Israel treats Palestine and coming away with a positive opinion.
Buttonbasher
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I've always been critical of how my public school education taught the same information about the Holocause from grades 6-12, but I guess even that's not enough...
EDIT: Yeah the sample size seems strange.
EDIT: Yeah the sample size seems strange.
Rhomega Beta
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I remember spending a ton of time talking about it in freshman year. We even saw The Diary of Anne Frank and Schindler's List.
SecretMoblin
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if you want to see the data by country, clicky click
it's a reputable polling firm that conducted the interviews, I'm not really surprised at the overall picture but it's distressing nonetheless :/
it's a reputable polling firm that conducted the interviews, I'm not really surprised at the overall picture but it's distressing nonetheless :/
Wow you're really optimistic.
dripdripsplash
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I think the one about the US government leads to thoughts of AIPAC and whatnot and that might be the reason for the high numbers.
Sho_Nuff82
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I'm a bit miffed by the "control over the US government" question. Being against Israel's diplomatic interests does not make you an anti-Semite, and I feel that the question often conflates the two.
AbsolutBro
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I find this quote from the WSJ article important though:
SecretMoblin
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US results for the lazy:
Jews more loyal to Israel than US: 31%
Jews have too much power in the business world: 18%
Jews have too much power in intl financial markets: 15%
Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust: 22%
Jews don't care what happens to anyone but their own kind: 13%
Jews have too much control over global affairs: 11%
Jews have too much control over the U.S. gov't: 11%
Jews think they are better than other people: 8%
Jews have too much control over the global media: 12%
Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars: 6%
People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave: 15%
89% of the US had heard about the Holocaust, same number believes "The Holocaust happened, and the number of Jews who died in it have been fairly described by history"
6% think the number of Jews who died is exaggerated
1% think it's a myth
Jews more loyal to Israel than US: 31%
Jews have too much power in the business world: 18%
Jews have too much power in intl financial markets: 15%
Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust: 22%
Jews don't care what happens to anyone but their own kind: 13%
Jews have too much control over global affairs: 11%
Jews have too much control over the U.S. gov't: 11%
Jews think they are better than other people: 8%
Jews have too much control over the global media: 12%
Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars: 6%
People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave: 15%
89% of the US had heard about the Holocaust, same number believes "The Holocaust happened, and the number of Jews who died in it have been fairly described by history"
6% think the number of Jews who died is exaggerated
1% think it's a myth
You are making the mistake of assuming that the pro-Israel lobby is primarily made up of Jewish people.
The largest supporters of the pro-Israel lobby in the US are actually evangelical Christians.
So 600million peasents in India and China don't know about it.
That's not shocking, is it?
The spread for the Muslim numbers means that Jews pretty much do have the highest unfavorability - at least in comparison to favorable views.
Worldwide? Believable. Many developing countries still have high illiteracy rates, combined with the fact that European history isn't on the forefront of their education. It's one thing to learn about the holocaust and world war II in the US, France, UK, Germany, quite another to teach it to kids in Nepal, Vietnam, Bangladesh etc.
I even believe the number will go down in the future as the memory of World War II fades.
I even believe the number will go down in the future as the memory of World War II fades.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Them people are giddy about the end times, for real. Really screwed up when you think about it.
That demographic's section is pretty interesting. Evidently Canada is 20% None/Agnostic/Atheist.
You also saw that Vice segment? My mind is blown at what that guy said with a straight face looking out onto a hill.
Poetic.Injustice
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In the world? Every country prefers to teach their own history first and foremost.
terrisus
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There's always been much more going on with regards to the Holocaust than simply "time passing and people forgetting."
Gentleman Jack
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The One and Done
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There were worse attociicties that even less people are aware of.
To me, your original take came off as meaning 95% in the US would not have heard about the holocaust.
China has 61% knowledge of the holocaust - though that does still leave vast numbers of people who were not aware of it simply due to size.
The UK manages 99% holocaust knowledge, though a bit lower agree with the facts.
dr3upmushroom
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Damn, this is sad. But then again how many atrocities of our time are we really aware of? Or how they played out?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide For instance (I don't know much, but a friend was mentioning this who is a History Professor), this is about the same ball park, is extremely fucked up, yet most of us don't really know about. We don't learn about it unless we seek out the knowledge or are informed by those with the knowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide For instance (I don't know much, but a friend was mentioning this who is a History Professor), this is about the same ball park, is extremely fucked up, yet most of us don't really know about. We don't learn about it unless we seek out the knowledge or are informed by those with the knowledge.
Sho_Nuff82
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No, I literally mean that anyone who speaks out against Israel is often called an Anti-Semite, often by the Anti Defamation League.
SCULLIBUNDO
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This is why I admire Spielberg so much for starting the Shoah Visual History Foundation - founded from his entitled profits from Schindler's List, which has archived thousands upon thousands of survivor testimonies.
It's not so much people, as it is the job market.
Darren870
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If you look at each country its very few people that haven't heard of the holocaust in developed countries. I'd also be interested to see who they were actually polling for the ones that said they never heard of it.
If you look at countries in South America there is a very high percentage that hasn't heard of the holocaust. Which isn't very surprising to me.
If you look at countries in South America there is a very high percentage that hasn't heard of the holocaust. Which isn't very surprising to me.
HP_Wuvcraft
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This is the world we live in now.
I'm talking to my mom on dog walks about new and interesting stuff I've been reading and watching, and she goes "so, how do we know this? Is this fact or is it just some scientist saying it?".
This is the world we live in.
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