If he's a 360 owner, there just isn't enough exclusives to warrant a $400 purchase (IMO). Yeah all the games mentioned are probably great, but is it worth dropping $400 for? The only game that's even making me consider buying a PS3 as a 360 owner is MGS4 but that's only 1 must play game for me on the system. When there are at least 3 I will seriously consider buying one (MGS4, FF13, ???).
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The "PS3 Has No Games" stigma - Why is it still going strong?
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Beer Monkey
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If anything this thread indicates why it can be a good thing to be the first to market in a generation. Saturn and Dreamcast didn't fail because they were first, they had too many other problems that offset the benefits of an early launch.
Who is the fanboy? The guy who is fine with one system for now, or the OP who runs around trying to talk people into buying his favorite system?
McLovin said:
Who is the fanboy? The guy who is fine with one system for now, or the OP who runs around trying to talk people into buying his favorite system?
Elbrain said:
He already has a 360 so multi platform games wouldn't be considered when purchasing a another system for $400. He can only really look at what the PS3 offers that his Xbox doesn't already offer. If those games don't interest him, then his statement of the PS3 having no games (worth buying another system for) would be valid (from his perspective).
I got into this argument in the RB Wii thread. go figureAriexv said:
online gaming <> online infrastructure. To me online gaming means being able to get in a game with my friends and play. Voice chat, lobbies, invites, etc are all second to just playing a game with m friends. There is no question that the 360 and PS3 have superior infrastructures to Wii. none whatsoever. My point that I am trying to make is that wii is capable of the same 32 player FPS titles, the online fighters, online sports titles with full modes, etc that 360 and PS3 are, regardless of the infrastructure amenities that exist on top of playing the games themselves.
Hellsing321
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Yep. For the past month I haven't used my PS3 for games once, though I do use it for Blu-Ray a lot. If you really want him to buy one then try pushing that.Spider_Jerusalem said:
PepsimanVsJoe
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OP: You should show your girlfriend's cousin this thread, that should really convince him otherwise.
*stifles laughter*
*stifles laughter*
solid2snake
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june 12th will make this kids suck.
ScrabbleBanshee
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Firstly. Yes, brainfart. STIGMA. I'll leave the thread title as it is, because ok, it's funny.
Well to put things into perspective. The cost ($399). He spends $300 on a pair of jeans without too much hesitation, and wants to buy a $5000 camera even (he's not a photographer), so I don't think the price of the PS3 is that big of a deterrent because he knows how to spend money just fine. But really, maybe $399 is not worth it for a system with no games, but how about a Blu-Ray player with no games? Still worth it right?
There's got to be more at play than just the cost to games ratio. I wonder if he's on GAF?
Well to put things into perspective. The cost ($399). He spends $300 on a pair of jeans without too much hesitation, and wants to buy a $5000 camera even (he's not a photographer), so I don't think the price of the PS3 is that big of a deterrent because he knows how to spend money just fine. But really, maybe $399 is not worth it for a system with no games, but how about a Blu-Ray player with no games? Still worth it right?
There's got to be more at play than just the cost to games ratio. I wonder if he's on GAF?
Green Shinobi
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This.Odrion said:
He definitely thinks the OP is creepy.
SlasherJPC
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Its simple for me. I buy most of the multiplatform games on 360. Why, because it has achivements, I'm stick connected to my friends, and usually the games are slightly better on the system.) Currently the only game I even own on PS3 is Uncharted (its exclusive, and it rocks my socks off). When more exclusive games come for the system though (GOW 3, FFXIII, MGS4, etc) My collection will grow.
I don't think it's so much PS3 doesn't literally have games so much as the PS3 is lacking by relation. (and the Wii even moreso- no idea why the PS3 gets all the flak for this) Of course, the same could be said for the 360 at its equivalent point in its lifetime. Now look at it. I'd expect people to view the PS3 in the same light by the end of this year.
I don't think he said "PS3 Has No Movies."
solid2snake said:
I don't think he said "PS3 Has No Movies."
jk
Well it's certainly not as prevalent as it used to be. I think what it stems from is not the fact that it doesn't have games - it's got some good games - but they're all new IP's. None of the big, popular franchises have been released yet. Just think, we're a year and a half into the PS3's life cycle and we still have no God of Wars, Final Fantasies, Gran Turismo's or Metal Gears to speak of yet.
On the up side, those new IP's Sony has been launching will be much more successful when/if they give them sequels. And some of the bigger well known franchises are finally starting to roll out on the system this year. If you're like me and own a PS3, it's probably hard to shake the feeling the console is just getting warmed up. So with that, I can't really fault someone if there's nothing 'exclusive' on the system that is interesting them yet.
On the up side, those new IP's Sony has been launching will be much more successful when/if they give them sequels. And some of the bigger well known franchises are finally starting to roll out on the system this year. If you're like me and own a PS3, it's probably hard to shake the feeling the console is just getting warmed up. So with that, I can't really fault someone if there's nothing 'exclusive' on the system that is interesting them yet.
Spider_Jerusalem
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And Sony is trying this way of pushing it too. I mean, here (italy) they're selling PS3 at 409 with three bundled blu-rays. They're marketing it as a blu-ray player instead of a gaming console, maybe this will mean something.Hellsing321 said:
This response hasn't gotten enough attention, and it's VERY true. Can't tell you how many times someone has come into the store looking for a new system, and the PS3 just doesn't appeal because of the very limited variety in the games. There's simply nothing that appeals to a lot of the casuals and female market. I can't show them a Vivia Pinata, or a Katamari, or even a DDR.Davidion said:
The PS3 has a number of great games right now, but they're all for the same market, which makes the system a very hard sell, since a lot of that market already has a 360 (and already has access to most of those great games). This will gradually change, but not anytime soon, as there's really nothing for the casual/girl market in the near future.
Byakuya769
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ScrabbleBanshee said:
It gets a new shitty shooter every month as opposed to every week
No Means Nomad
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Some people just aren't interested in the line up right now. People have different tastes in video games. I'm big on shooters, so I like my 360, but honestly if I had no interest in shooters I would say the 360 doesn't have enough games to be a worthwhile purchase. Same goes for the PS3, I'm not really interested in games the available exclusives enough to warrant the purchase. I'm sure I'll pick one up one day, but right now the games aren't there that I'd want.
mabuza said:
This is what I call the "defensive" reply. People either only want to support MS/360 or they simply cannot afford it, so they convince themselves of something, usually based on FUD.
I own both systems and cannot see myself not owning a PS3. I watch all my DVD/BD with it, play all the exclusives, and have even been buying many of the better multi-platform games on the PS3 (I find the noise level far more acceptable and it simply helps my 360 live longer). I got my $600 worth and think the 40GB is a steal.
DeaconKnowledge
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It's hard to shake a bad reputation when you get it.
Just ask GameCube Era Nintendo, or MS now with their RROD issues.
Just ask GameCube Era Nintendo, or MS now with their RROD issues.
MassiveAttack
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Kestastrophe
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DeadGzuz said:
Why is it that hard to believe that the marginal utility of PS3 doesn't outweigh the marginal cost for some consumers?
PepsimanVsJoe
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sneaky77 said:
Quoting this again because it's a sensible reply.
ScrabbleBanshee
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Well this is how I tried to justify the purchase so far... I feel ok about it, when combined with the media functions.
fatigues_gasolini
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Hell, people are still saying the same thing for the PSP.
you know what to do now... violence!! go over his house.. then stomp on his 360 after its been on a few hours.. then grab him and shove his face into red hot guts of the 360 and start yelling "DO YOU LIKE THIS PS3 GAME? ITS CALLED YOURE FACE! THE SEQUAL IS YOURE NUTS" then stomp on his nuts for 20 minutes or until he starts vomiting in pain..
or just.. i dunno.. invite ur cousin over and show him the games you own on youre ps3 and let him play them.. that could work as well
or just.. i dunno.. invite ur cousin over and show him the games you own on youre ps3 and let him play them.. that could work as well
John Harker said:
This. All of this.
I picked up a PS3 about a week ago and that was mainly for Blu-Ray. What was the first thing I bought? No Country for Old Men, followed by Ratatouille ... and then I picked up Uncharted on a whim. I bought Everyday Shooter and Tekken 5 from the PlayStation Store and I'm considering Gran Turismo Prologue out of anything better to buy.
I also don't see a reason to get 3rd party titles for not only the reasons you said, but also because Live is a much easier way to play games online and, well, achievements are cool.
Sure, there's Little Big Planet, but there's a problem when the stuff that excites me most next to it is Home and picking up Juno on Blu-Ray.
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