GTAV is up to what? 30 million sold to consumers at this point? How much money would it cost Microsoft to buy even timed exclusivity when they're currently being outsold (and I'm being generous here with shipped vs. sold numbers) 5:7? It simply doesn't make sense from Rockstar's perspective. We're talking about billions of dollars here.
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NPD Sales Results for March 2014 [Up4: FFX/X-2 HD]
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GTAV is up to what? 30 million sold to consumers at this point? How much money would it cost Microsoft to buy even timed exclusivity when they're currently being outsold (and I'm being generous here with shipped vs. sold numbers) 5:7? It simply doesn't make sense from Rockstar's perspective. We're talking about billions of dollars here.
Nah, not quite like that. PS2's overall numbers are going to be pretty much impossible for anyone to repeat, just like the Nintendo DS.
Crimson_Fate
Member
This !
I am sure EA is looking at those 7 Million people it couldn't sell to in pure horror....
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Imo North America isn't the problem. Whatever this thread might indicate the XBO is doing alright in NA. The problem is that besides the UK, nobody in this world gives two shits about the thing. Its there where Sony is doing most of the damage. I don't think most of this board is aware how truly aweful the XBO is selling outside their two main markets. It's WiiU level bad!
Uno Venova
Banned
Yes if it's timed, timed exclusives hurts the sales of the delayed title compared to a simultaneous release. You' think after all the BF4, COD, and GTA5 ,moneyhat predictions before the last reveal people will see that partnerships like that never happen.
Who is that in your avatar before you change it.
Seeing your name in red, some people are going to take you seriously, I think.
They are doing right by me (and my Wii U) with the recent videos of MK, Smash, and Bayonetta 2.
Garrett 2U
Member
Yep, great post
It's all good until you drag Giant Bomb down into the gutter with you. They take pains to discuss relationships with developers and are open about biases.
Don't insinuate that the GB crew have tickets on the same hype train as other outlets. There are better examples which would prove your point.
Omotesando
Member
Didn't stop MS.
Got dragged out by the girlfriend instead of seeing the reading the meltdowns. I'm assuning MS doomed is going on. The bone is selling great though. It's just insane to think it will outsell the PS4. Hope the gifs are delivering...
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Not all of it. The game charted #1 in NPD, I doubt manufactured hype could have made that happen.
But yeah, some portion of its hype was definitely not real.
Wait, XBO sold 1.4 million games in the entire month, and inFamous SS sold 2 million copies? SO, inFamous handily beat Titanfall for XBO in sales, right?
They must have sold a LOT of copies of Titanfall on PC.
Its hype as THE system selling game was manufactured. The game obviously sold really well...on PC. With 1.4 million pieces of software sold on XBO this month, that's not going to be good numbers for Titanfall alone.
They must have sold a LOT of copies of Titanfall on PC.
Its hype as THE system selling game was manufactured. The game obviously sold really well...on PC. With 1.4 million pieces of software sold on XBO this month, that's not going to be good numbers for Titanfall alone.
SenatorBot
Member
Infamous did pretty well compared to Titanfall seeing as how it had last gen gameplay. If only sucker punch made next gen gameplay.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Not shameful at all, I was trolling a Fable/Lionhead thread and made a post laced with sarcasm. My current tag is but a small part of that sarcastic post and coincidentally my personal favorite part of said post.
Christine Mendoza
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
How low do you want X1 to be? You can already get a Kinect-less version for under $379 if you are willing to do a little 'work'.
Microsoft screwed up by not having a more powerful system. Its just that simple. I'm still baffled that their silicon designers couldn't see that 32MB of esram wasn't enough to run most next gen games at 1080p. Sad situation. Was Xbox only the last generations but like many I came home.
Access to Chartz Gold is one of the benefits of NeoGaf Gold, no? Wouldn't imagine why it would be "banned."
Steve Youngblood
Member
What about a FFXIII Trilogy Definitive Edition on PS4/Xbox One instead?
There's no mystery here: Titanfall sold well, but it simply wasn't enough of an attractive game to the average consumer to overcome the negatives the Xbone is saddled with, particularly a (still) higher price tag, no Kinect-less sku, and a weaker system than the less-expensive PS4.
Arthur Gies does not deserve any such pity. He has continually insulted gamers and our intelligence; fled on a bet with a GAFer and never paid up; and Evilore himself called him something like 'the most disreputable journalist in the game industry' after a particularly scandalous event in with Arthur Gies acted like an abominable clown about a certain incident. He continually misled consumers about secret sauce in XBO, the power of the system, secrets around it, endlessly. And on launch night for PS4, Polygon with Gies literally spent hours fucking railing against the PS4, saying Titanfall is better to every game, talking about how lame everything was. He defended EA on the Sim City scandal. If they are trying to provide a service to consumers, and are even remotely desiring objectivity, they'd behave better. They do not. When a XBO game has some minor advantage over a PS4 multiplatform game, even though everything else in that PS4 multiplatform game is superior, they deduct points. When a PS4 multiplatform game is better, even when it's endlessly, massively superior, they rate them equally.
You want people to feel bad for responding negatively to his tweets? He has a responsibility to not behave this way in a visible position on his site that is supposed to serve gamers. If he can't take the heat, stay out the kitchen.
If he would have apologized for some of this behavior and tired to change there'd be no such attitude toward him. He has not.
But that's not the only problem. If they reduced the system to $399.99 tomorrow, it'd still be a system in which every multiplatform game is inferior, in which apps are all locked behind a paywall, in which is poorly competing with PS+ amazing month on month offerings, in which is burdened with a peripheral virtually nobody wants anymore, does nothing for games, and still has yet to have even a single genuinely well received dedicated title yet for the XBO. On top of that, policy-wise, they continue to stand by a damaging ID@Xbox policy that is hugely damaging to small indies.
One issue may be minor, two may be minor. But this shit adds up to a bundle of issues, and the system does not exist in a vacuum. It has to at least MATCH what PS4 is doing in the eyes of the consumer at an equal price, or offer at least something else they value equal in exchange for the losses. Consumers clearly do not see Kinect as viable in that exchange, so what can they do?
This is no easy task to turn this around. What they need is a true series of spark games that ignite people's interests, and then start releasing them in addition to a price cut. Because the only thing going to get people to accept all the downsides versus the PS4 is if the games demand their attention. I think XBO has a better lineup of currently announced titles, but not better enough to overcome how many issues it has versus PS4.
Might be a US vs. Worldwide thing.
Gunmonkey36
Member
Yep...
groovygamer
Banned
Don't toy with my emotions...
MS didn't have a choice. What games do they have coming out this year with even a semblance of hype attached?
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
No. 1.4 million XBO games would be the NPD North American retail sales data.
I'm pretty sure the last report on Second Son was that it passed one million sales. Worldwide.
I don't follow much of the other gaming press the way I do Giantbomb. I wasn't implying inappropriate behavior, I was simply giving an example.
Yep...
I swear this woman from Community looks JUST like a porn star that I sometimes...dream about named Charlotte Stokely.
I think it's uncanny.
TheSonofBM
Member
Coming soon from Geoff Keighley, "The Final Hours of Xbox One".
Brazil is also Xbone country. And Brazil is a huge video game market nowadays.
We'll see if that market also will elevate consoles.
I want to see a "The First Hours of Xbox One".
Oh come on....you made me realize this is more likely. ):
Oh yeah that might be true. I keep forgetting that 2 million inFamous number is WW sales.
Quadraphonic
Member
Yes. This.
From things I've heard, MS still planned on releasing at the time they did, but did bank on Sony in 2014, so they were ready to rest on their laurels putting out a half-finished device.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Ahh ok, by bad. They haven't announced it, but Phil Spencer talked about how they would do a "hypothetical version." I assume it will be announced at E3 and released in Fall.
Mysterious
Banned
Did Infamous sell 2M in the US or WW? Source please.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
Not sure. Don't remember much of the post from last E3 about TitanFall and how much it would sell and if it would save the X1. I do remember post about the X1 falling flat on it's face and not selling because of all the crap it said, and price point and less power and all... yet it's sold 60% more than the 360 in the same time.
Seems like they're doing just fine.
Chobel
Member
Titanfall number?
Oh my god. How is GAF able to cope under the weight of all this hyperbole?
Exactly this. It's not Titanfall's fault.
I don't think any game could have made up for those negatives. I think Titanfall was about as good of a shot as they could have given it.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
AmethystEnd
Member
ethomaz
Banned
Over 50 games launched and counting... close to 10 releases per month.
On a serious note though, I think the PS4 being the dominant console is good news for Japanese devs, especially the niche ones. They now have the best of both (halves of the) worlds. They can release a game on PS4 and have a larger userbase in the west to sell to, while also having the largest userbase in their home country as well. Unlike last gen where if they released on PS3, they had less western userbase, but if they released on 360, they would get 0 sales in Japan.