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[BruceLeeRoy]

In your personal opinion, how much of a downgrade do you think we can expect from that screaming woman footage in the final game?

I know it's probably hard to quantify, but what would take a hit in your opinion? The various particle effects? The way the glass reacts to the main character? Textures? Lighting? Or pretty much everything?

Feel free to PM me your thoughts if you'd rather not share publicly.

Sorry Miles I missed this. I don't think we're getting the visuals presented in that first trailer. I don't think it's going to be a Watchdogs situation probably closer to E3 Forza and retail Forza which depending on who you ask people either noticed a "big" difference of didn't notice any.

i'm sure it has, but thats not within the context of the question



graphics back then were never the focus as it is today.

You must have not been around for the Crash Bandicoot and Mario 64 era. Especially because there was nothing but images in magazines and few demos to get a idea of the gameplay the only thing people talked about were the graphics.

 

[Darksol]

I'm still interested.

 

[YuShtink]

As long as it does not release the same day as a Rockstar game it's good.

I forgot all about that. Really bad decision on MS's part there. Honestly, all of Remedy's games deserve more sales than they got. I'll be there Day 1 of course. One of my personal fav developers, just love their style.

 

[Cyberia]

Visually, it looks great, but certainly not at the level of the sequence they showed early one (in-engine, certainly).

According to Remedy the E3 trailer was in-game lulz.

http://community.remedygames.com/showpost.php?p=162469&postcount=8

 

[pixellated_man]

i'm sure it has, but thats not within the context of the question



graphics back then were never the focus as it is today.

It's not hard to understand why there is an over emphasis on graphics at the start of a new generation of consoles though. Especially this generation, which aside from the promise of much improved graphics is bringing very little different / innovative to the table.

 

[nib95]

I think this looks better than The Order, Ryse - all that. You guys can try to crucify me, that's fine there's nothing wrong with that. I just haven't been blown away by a console game like I have with QB. Everything from the atmosphere to the environment looks incredible. Let's see how they implement the time control mechanics, that's what will really make the game.

Anyone can find any game better looking than another. Art, setting, mood, atmosphere etc, these things often take precedent over actual technical merits. I'd personally say without a shadow of a doubt, Ryse and Infamous are better looking based only on what I've seen so far, and I'd say The Order is beyond even those two. Main thing I'm finding is that the lighting and shaders are just far more life like and realistic than Quantum Break in its current incarnation, but with a year or so left to release, it's a bit too early for any definitive judgments.

 

[DannyDanger]

I'm lost for words WTF is this. I mean wow this right here is shit posting at it's finest I mean clap for this man.

It was mostly sarcasm

Parody to "The Order 1886 is a gears clone"

But the reactions were so good I just let it ride

 

[Gestault]

Not going to go through the video when I already have a few times, but can you post screenshots of what you mean? I took a few here from the trailer so you might just be able to use those.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=113880904&postcount=205

You're asking for more work than should be necessary for a clear response. You wanted to know where there were open vistas and dense detail in environments. They literally gave you the timecode and a description for where they noted each.

Those are certainly open cityscapes and environments with as much interior detail as you could expect without artificially throwing in elements.

 

[MaulerX]

But it didn't look like a generational leap. It also ran like a bag of frozen assholes.

Fun game, but please don't act like it was a powerhouse in either looks or performance.

The original comment was that it was a "tad better than a 360 game". It may not be a powerhouse but it was more than a "tad" better than a 360 game imo.

 

[nib95]

i'm sure it has, but thats not within the context of the question

graphics back then were never the focus as it is today.

They absolutely were. It was the main reason people even bought new consoles. 16bit this, 32bit that. What do you think all that was for? Graphics were massively important.

 

[pixellated_man]

They absolutely were. It was the main reason people even bought new consoles. 16bit this, 32bit that. What do you think all that was for? Graphics were massively important.

I think some people are too young to remember / have short memories.

 

[dargis49]

Loved Alan Wake. This looks cool as well.

 

[Four_Chamber]

Looks absolutely amazing, Remedy is awesome

Time to finish up Alan Wake first though

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

I wonder how the huge time freeze sections will work. Is it something you have access to at all times or maybe only in certain sections. It appears he goes from a combat mode into more of a detective role when everything is frozen. Maybe you can mess with stuff like moving a obstacle in front of a car and then resuming time to see your created chaos play out.

 

[LukasTaves]

Can someone gif both of the scenes?

The density and quality of all the frozen objects looks like it's much higher quality. The lighting also seems to be a lot better.

The char model looks similar. There are more objects in the previous video (because it exploded, but dunno about their individual quality. the truck on the left of the new gif is very detailed

Edit: And the lighting. Both seem really great considering their environments. He is being properly lit from the explosion in one gif and on the other the car headlights are lightening everything properly too, and they even look volumetric.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Sorry Miles I missed this. I don't think we're getting the visuals presented in that first trailer. I don't think it's going to be a Watchdogs situation probably closer to E3 Forza and retail Forza which depending on who you ask people either noticed a "big" difference of didn't notice any.

Thanks for the reply.

I think that's probably a very fair assessment of how the visuals will turn out. I'm personally hoping it will look pretty close to the screaming woman footage, but I have prepared myself for there being some concessions made to visuals to get it running well on the X1.

And not to start a whole 'thing', but I think 900p will probably be the best we can hope for terms of resolution. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though, Ryse being 900p didn't hurt it much in my opinion and it's still one of the most visually impressive games I've played so far on current gen (Infamous Second Son being the other)

 

[EBE]

if you froze time would you be able to see anything? wouldnt light itself stop?

 

[Ricky_R]

if you froze time would you be able to see anything? wouldnt light itself stop?

Light too would be frozen?

 

[Exploratory]

Well I've been having visual debates since super street fighter for SNES, GENESIS



Your either really young or I'm just really too old.


I'm probably too old

I meant on GAF.

 

[Gestault]

graphics back then were never the focus as it is today.

I don't mean this in a dismissive way: How old are you, roughly? A response (counterpoint) to what you said could come off as either informative or unintentionally condescending, depending on what range you fall into.

 

[Super Stardust]

In Remedy we trust, that part at the end looked awesome

 

[dr_rus]

According to Remedy the E3 trailer was in-game lulz.

http://community.remedygames.com/showpost.php?p=162469&postcount=8

Sure it was. There is nothing in the trailer tech-wise that cannot be in-game. It is very pretty artistically though.

 

[scsa]

Will buy this console just to play this game.
In 'Remedy' I trust.

Looks absolutely fantastic.

 

[GameSeeker]

Well I've been having visual debates since super street fighter for SNES, GENESIS

Your either really young or I'm just really too old.

I'm probably too old

You might be young yet. I can remember Atari vs. ColecoVision debates

Sorry Miles I missed this. I don't think we're getting the visuals presented in that first trailer. I don't think it's going to be a Watchdogs situation probably closer to E3 Forza and retail Forza which depending on who you ask people either noticed a "big" difference of didn't notice any.

Yes, we aren't going to get the same graphics as the E3 reveal, as that was rendered on a high end PC. Just like Forza 5 got downgraded from E3 reveal to launch, the same will happen with Quantum Break.

While I don't see Quantum Break being able to achieve the graphical fidelity of Infamous:SS or The Order: 1886, it should be able to match Ryse (900p/30fps). Ryse is still, 7+ months after launch, one of the best looking games on Xbox, if not the best. So if Remedy can match that they should be fine. As always, remember Beauty is the Eye of the Beholder.

 

[nib95]

I meant on GAF.

I'm sure graphics debates and discussions have been around as long as GAF has, certainly for as far as I can remember posting or reading here. But I don't think GAF is quite as old as the time frame these sorts of comparisons have actually gone on for. I could be wrong though.

 

[TheCloser]

The art direction is really good. The graphics are decent but i'm sure it will be better by the time its released. I'm very interested in the story for this game. I hope its pretty good.

 

[scently]

The char model looks similar. There are more objects in the previous video (because it exploded, but dunno about their individual quality. the truck on the left of the new gif is very detailed

Edit: And the lighting. Both seem really great considering their environments. He is being properly lit from the explosion in one gif and on the other the car headlights are lightening everything properly too, and they even look volumetric.

I really can't think see how somebody can draw the conclusion, based on this two scenes, that this has been downgraded. It just doesn't make sense at all.

 

[Wishmaster92]

I seen all the videos and the character model for Jack is absolutely the same in every one of them.

 

[N7Commander95]

I really cannot see a downgrade. Its kind of reaching to suggest there is.

 

[Sendou]

Downgrade discussion with every game has just gotten out of control. We have no comparable footage.

 

[Stampy]

I seen all the videos and the character model for Jack is absolutely the same in every one of them.

You mean riples on his back. That is a bit weird...

 

[Gabotron ES]

Game looks out of this world.

 

[Amir0x]

Nice, exciting! I'm tempering my excitement for this latest Remedy game after Alan Wake ended up being pretty much my biggest disappointment of last gen (it was partially the reason I jumped full on board the 360 train), but it looks very promising. My biggest concern is that they'd be focusing too much on the story/tv aspirations (and game stories suck 98% of the time; scientific fact) and the gameplay might fall by the wayside, so I'm looking to hear strong impressions about how it plays. Very hyped!

 

[Ape]

if you froze time would you be able to see anything? wouldnt light itself stop?

Wouldn't the molecules of air be frozen too? Could you even move???

 

[TypuyBaran]

The game looks amazing.

But I guess GAF gonna GAF.

If this sucks I have no clue what would pass for awesome around here...smdh

Amazing if it looks close to this at release...I'm blown away.

 

[The English Conquistador]

Is this the latest trend? Push out some hot pics/footage to soften the blow of another damn delay?

 

[EBE]

Wouldn't the molecules of air be frozen too? Could you even move???

my mind is spinning...
i honestly dont know. i know Timeshift worked around that by giving you some sort of time suit. kind of like asking if you would see anything if you could move faster than light.

 

[Ben Pierce]

Thank you, based Remedy.

Anyone complaining about QB's visuals baffels me. This is one of the most graphically impressive games I've ever seen, yet some people here find a way to complain. I'm disappointed in the Gaf community at times.

Anywho, this is the reason I'm getting an XBONE, and the delay only helps my wallet.

if you froze time would you be able to see anything? wouldnt light itself stop?

I think that light isn't affected by time. Shit's weird, yo.

 

[Grisby]

Yummy. 2015 is a delay but at least it's not an Alan Wake sized delay.

 

[Amir0x]

Thank you, based Remedy.

Anyone complaining about QB's visuals baffels me. This is one of the most graphically impressive games I've ever seen, yet some people here find a way to complain. I'm disappointed in the Gaf community at times.

Anywho, this is the reason I'm getting an XBONE, and the delay only helps my wallet.

I can almost FEEL your finger wagging at the screen, like an old "I AM DISAPPOINT' father.

Why be disappointed in NeoGAF (by the way, NeoGAF is not a hive mind. The COMMUNITY is not disappointed with the visuals; some individual posters are. That's a lazy way out of addressing specific criticism)? Because they have a different standard of visuals than you do? I think the game looks good (not close to one of the most impressive, but good) but I'm not quite sure if it matches what they showed before. I need to see more.

 

[Wishmaster92]

VGX

Gameplay teaser

vgx trailer also had a different hue for this scene with added ca around her face i think.

VGX

E3

Who's to say todays version doesn't look better than the e3 build? Going by the first comparison that's the same area the new build looks better to me.

VGX

Gameplay teaser

VGX

Gameplay teaser

 

[Detective]

VGX

Gameplay teaser

vgx trailer also had a different hue for this scene with added ca around her face i think.

VGX

E3

Who's to say todays version doesn't look better than the e3 build? Going by the first comparison that's the same area the new build looks better to me.

VGX

Gameplay teaser

VGX

Gameplay teaser

Great job on those pics.
I think this game looks better than anything that has been shown out there.

love the atmosphere.
Take your time remedy. Sam Lake is really cool

 

[The Flash]

Wishmaster92's list of photos

Alright GAF, you know what to do. Enhance!

 

[Wishmaster92]

Takeaway: VGX version has the same fidelity as the E3 trailer. The comparison shows today's version looks better than the vgx version. I resized the pictures because of compression.

 

[EBE]

Alright GAF, you know what to do. Enhance!

time to get the ol' red marker out..

 

[MaulerX]

VGX

Gameplay teaser

vgx trailer also had a different hue for this scene with added ca around her face i think.

VGX

E3

Who's to say todays version doesn't look better than the e3 build? Going by the first comparison that's the same area the new build looks better to me.

VGX

Gameplay teaser

VGX

Gameplay teaser

I was thinking the same thing. Might actually be looking better.

 

[Gamerloid]

Looks better with every new footage. Looking forward to more gameplay though.

I'm still interested.

 

[abadguy]

I really cannot see a downgrade. Its kind of reaching to suggest there is.

Looks to be "downgraded" in the same way that Ryse was "downgraded."

 

[il Diavolo]

hnnnngg dat lighting in the last pic.

 

[intheinbetween]

dat night skybox