CambriaRising
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The truth isn't a good look?
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PS NOW. Rentals from US$2.99 to US$19.99.
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The truth isn't a good look?
Crunch2600
Neo Member
I think it was during this year's press conference that they said "...when available in your area," or something. Is there any indication where PS Now will cover, like major cities, NYC in particular? Obviously, where these facilities are located will make a huge difference in how well games play.
If it works, I'd be willing to pay the equivalent of an monthly MMO subscription for a Netflix-eqsue selection of games. I'm looking forward to getting more mileage out of the Vita. Over the Internet Remote Play works and is pretty crazy.
If it works, I'd be willing to pay the equivalent of an monthly MMO subscription for a Netflix-eqsue selection of games. I'm looking forward to getting more mileage out of the Vita. Over the Internet Remote Play works and is pretty crazy.
SDCowboy
Member
Well if they're testing these prices for a single game, would would a monthly fee for unlimited access? $1k/month? lol
hodayathink
Member
Right now, the only thing they've said will be there is PS3 games for the immediate future. They've said that the plan is to get all systems PS1-4 on there at some point in the future, but who knows when that'll be.
Edit: And right now it's just paying to play certain games, but they've continually said that they're eventually going to start a subscription service.
neotokyo360
Member
Option 4Hr WTF.
1 Day replace 4hr please.
1 Day replace 4hr please.
SDCowboy
Member
Ok, but what about a sub fee? Is there one on top of the rental charges?
There may be a subscription plan in place the future, bit you don't need a subscription plan to rent games.
Yeah its not looking good at this point tbh. We just have to make sure that Sony hears loud and clearly that this shit is unacceptable. 30 and 90 day periods are really all I need for games, and those are fine, but paying $20 for 4 year old games is not something that I'm interested in.
SDCowboy
Member
So for the time being, the service is just to rent old games for around the same price one can buy them in a store? 0_o
Or more. But it's beta so we'll see. There are supposedly going to be a ton of games at launch and they're testing like 30 at a time or something atm. Things need to change before then.
SDCowboy
Member
Yeah, I liked the service when I beta tested it, but after this, my excitement for it has completely fallen off a cliff.
Killing_Joke
Member
I already said the prices are off. Mainly the 4hr/90day options. But the week/month deal are fair to me. Of course it all depends on the game. These are not set prices. If the prices flop they can lower it. All i'm saying is the appeal of the service is to play these games anywhere so there might be some (or a lot?) who will dig it. Why do people rent on amazon/itunes when you can buy movies for a couple of bucks more?
I'm almost certain 90days will go away because that would conflict with the sub model, which i'm hoping is going to be 10-20 a month.
I think if you have a ps3 or 4, this service just has no value. If you are playing off a tv or PStv, then yeah, I can see these rentals maybe being worth it. But why bother with those prices if you can get a disc or download it digitally.
I almost feel like this will be the ps4's Home.
I almost feel like this will be the ps4's Home.
SDCowboy
Member
On PS1 and PS2 games, if we can't buy them, and a 3month rental is more than $5-7, that would be straight up absurd.
mookie_kabuki
Banned
Your telling me you don't think that Sony has enough stroke to dictate pricing to these companies? Lol.
SDCowboy
Member
I wonder how much say Sony does have in the prices and if they're looking at the overwhelmingly negative response to the prices with panic or not.
mookie_kabuki
Banned
Sony is trying to see his much they can squeeze people for. If they really wanted to squeeze the pubs ,they would simply do the math.Used games are cheaper than the rental fees; and pubs don't get a cut of that biz.It's better to have a cut of something than a cut of nothing.
Tenshi Hauru
Neo Member
Just got the Beta tester email myself and booted it up to see what was new. Needless to say, I was a little shocked to know that we're paying to beta test from here on in. I understand that these are real games in their entirety but I feel a better alternative would've been demos and vertical slices of games instead.
My hype for this went from cautiously optimistic to walking off a cliff and dying on impact.
The 7 day plan often beats Redbox on these games but that's about the only positive I get out of this. The saves seem isolated to PS Now, which is probably the biggest killer for me. I could see this price model working for day one games. I can't see them at all for 2-4 year old games.
My hype for this went from cautiously optimistic to walking off a cliff and dying on impact.
The 7 day plan often beats Redbox on these games but that's about the only positive I get out of this. The saves seem isolated to PS Now, which is probably the biggest killer for me. I could see this price model working for day one games. I can't see them at all for 2-4 year old games.
Yeah, I agree. I really feel like the sub model will be for us enthusiasts vice the single rental price structure. $8/week is a good price for mass market and I think they will get a lot of mileage out of that for SP games. I can definitely see myself being willing for 10-15/ month, even up to 20, but in yearly installments, going the Amazon Prime route. I would be on that in a heartbeat.
CambriaRising
Member
On an unproven service while wanting everyone to hop aboard? No, they really don't.
Yeah, wow.
$4,99 for four hours then $7,99 for seven days?!
The pricing doesn't make a bit of sense. The four hours deal sounds like a complete waste of money.
Would make more sense charging $2 for a day, $4,99 for three and $7,99 for seven. People would spend tons of moneys for $2 a day, plus it would encourage people playing more their games because they'll have it for only a day, but for a great deal.
GoofsterStud
Member
For those of you that say a lifetime to stream one game at full price is crazy.
Remember that for a $60/$40 games: (Only ones we have a breakdown of)
A.) Publishers/Developers 45%
B.) Platform Holders make 10%
C.) 45% of the sale is for retailers, returns, distribution costs
All of C.) could easily cover the streaming price. Most people won't be streaming a game much after beating it anyway.
Remember that for a $60/$40 games: (Only ones we have a breakdown of)
A.) Publishers/Developers 45%
B.) Platform Holders make 10%
C.) 45% of the sale is for retailers, returns, distribution costs
All of C.) could easily cover the streaming price. Most people won't be streaming a game much after beating it anyway.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Right. New release movie rentals(the Lego movie) through streaming are $5 on amazon video for 48 hours.
Buying the same title digitally is $20.
If its $60 for a new digital game, $20 for a weeklong rental of the same title is just about right, and enough time to finish all but the longest games.
Publishers are not going to give away their full price games for nothing. I don't know what people expected.
CrimsonCommie
Member
I know I'm late but I started up PS Now earlier to see if they added anything new and now they're charging beta testers to test their service! I'm glad it's still just a beta cause this is a joke right Now.
SliceSabre
Banned
I fully expect them to adjust these prices better since it is a beta and Sony is new at this sorta thing.
EatinOlives
Member
They very clearly didn't think about how to apply pricing to games that are less than $60.
If they don't fix the pricing the whole service is dead on arrival.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Hey, guys?
FF 13-2 isn't a Sony game. They probably didn't dictate the price.
Hopefully the only rule is a minimum and a maximum price for a single rental period and let the publishers figure out what is profitable for them and what sells.
Hopefully publishers make adjustments to the prices as time goes on.
FF 13-2 isn't a Sony game. They probably didn't dictate the price.
Hopefully the only rule is a minimum and a maximum price for a single rental period and let the publishers figure out what is profitable for them and what sells.
Hopefully publishers make adjustments to the prices as time goes on.
Tallshortman
Member
They need to do redbox esque pricing, so like 2 bucks a day and then discounts if you do week, month, etc. Honestly, if that XIII-2 pricing is what they do for new titles then it's fine except that $5 for 4 hours which is absurd. I would be okay with $10 for a week with new titles. Well this is beta, so hopefully they get this shit sorted out.
I know there are several holes and assumptions. But if you are household that just plays madden during foot ball parties or just play few AAA games during winter break, it could save a lot. Ability to play directly on Bravia TV or 3rd party TVs does make it more cost attractive for guys who just play less <10 games a year.
I really do hope they are reading these reactions so they can react themselves and hopefully find a truly good pricing scale by launch. Something like what they are testing now would make the service flop hard and become a huge waste of money for Sony.
dreamer3kx
Member
Cocky Sony.....is back.
I hope they are reading as well. I think other testers should go and tell Sony how they feel. I might just link to this thread. With how much is invested in this, I think they want to avoid a flop. Those prices really only might work if you don't have any PS device and you want to play off your TV directly or something. I'll suggest asking/having devs and pubs restructure their price as well as offering discounts if you have PS+ (idk, maybe like 1 free monthly game rental)
That's assuming a brand new $60 game, which doesn't seem like it will be the case since these are PS3 games. The large majority of the library can be had for under $40 at this point in time.
NavyPharaoh
Member
This service can't be for us. This move is to help sell Tvs to casuals who wanna game without the console.
Drive by posts.... are back.
Sony does not set the pricing. The publishers do. Sony can set first party prices. Games like Final Fantasy XIII-2 etc are set by Square Enix.
The 4 hours costs are going to be high..... because sadly many games can be BEATEN in 4 hours time. The Week/Month prices are not that bad. You will lose $10-20 over the course of a month after release for most games.
Why would anyone pay those absurd prices when GameFly is still a thing? Seriously, if you wanted to rent a game, GameFly crushes with their pricing and expansive library. Sony is dropping the ball real quick.
How you gonna come out doing dunks and drilling threes in your opponents face and then start double dribbling in the second half?
How you gonna come out doing dunks and drilling threes in your opponents face and then start double dribbling in the second half?
They probably should then, they need to say look guys you follow these price rules or we can't support your games.
The only alternative is leaving it in the gamers hands and hope they aren't stupid enough to pay those prices but if history proves anything its that gamers will pay against the odds.
The fact that they are leaving it in the hands of the developers means it's unlikely there will ever be a subscription based option.
People already pay $2/day to rent at redbox. $20 in many cases is a rental for a month. Redbox would give you 7 days for $14.
If people pay that then it is the right price point to charge. Just because I don't agree with it being that expensive to rent for a month does not mean it may not be the right price point. I think streaming these games to TV's is going to be pretty awesome.
Sounds like the service hotels used to have where you could order games like Gex and play with the shitty controller hooked up to the tv.
I can't believe so many people had high hopes for this. They'll never overcome the physics of latency anyway.
So I used this service just to report back on it. Rented FF13 for I think $5.99 for 7 days. I am directly wired to my router, so connection is as good as possible. It's probably in the fine print somewhere of the things I'm going to list but:
-When you rent the game, it basically takes you to the PS3 menu and operates the game through that
-I rented FF13 due to the graphics being pretty good and wanted to see how it displayed through the streaming service
-My experience is the game streams under 720p and the visuals do not transfer over well but there was no lag in the controls
-The PS4 function of taking screen shots/videos or streaming the game does not work
Overall, I probably won't use the service again with the selection of games they currently offer. Also, with the current selection of games, one could honestly buy most of the games used for a couple of dollars more. I probably skipped over a lot but if anyone has a question I'll try to answer.
-When you rent the game, it basically takes you to the PS3 menu and operates the game through that
-I rented FF13 due to the graphics being pretty good and wanted to see how it displayed through the streaming service
-My experience is the game streams under 720p and the visuals do not transfer over well but there was no lag in the controls
-The PS4 function of taking screen shots/videos or streaming the game does not work
Overall, I probably won't use the service again with the selection of games they currently offer. Also, with the current selection of games, one could honestly buy most of the games used for a couple of dollars more. I probably skipped over a lot but if anyone has a question I'll try to answer.