That's what they all said about Titanfall to be fair.
I get that it was originally multiplatform and then changed later on, but point still stands, we've seen this all happen before.
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Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)
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That's what they all said about Titanfall to be fair.
I get that it was originally multiplatform and then changed later on, but point still stands, we've seen this all happen before.
Unknown One
Member
MS did the same with Titanfall, but at least that game was a new ip. Still pretty damn shady though. Pay to exclude.
Well, that was a wonderful breakfast; time to see what's going on in the Tomb Raider thr-
This thread took a really weird turn.
This thread took a really weird turn.
LingeringRegime
Member
I would cry.
GarciaHotspur
Member
They don't pay to develop a game, they pay to avoid a game to be available on other platforms...
It´s not very " fair " but that's the game ! It's a business.
It´s not very " fair " but that's the game ! It's a business.
plasmawave
Banned
Let's not go crazy there.
Agreed, Microsoft realized that they had a serious hole in their lineup and purchased timed exclusivity for something to fit the hole (made apparent by Uncharted 4).
I've seen some ignorant posts on GAF but this takes the cake. What in the actual fuck?!?
Yes moneyhatting a multiplatform exclusive boosts creativity and innovation on the competing system that makes perfect sense. Mein Gott. People be crazy y'all.
Consider the install base of the PS4 in a year, say 20 million (and this would be low balling it right?), 3 million in one day wouldn't be that surprising would it?
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Sleeping Dogs 2 would make sense though because it would be a Bayonetta 2-ish situation.
3.8 million shipped on its first day.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-10-sony-uncharted-3-day-one-global-sales
What happens if it sells less on XB1 than Uncharted on PS4 and if it reviews less well?
Will it have been elevated as a brand or diminished?
There's a decent chance this is going to hurt TR brand not help it. ND are probably quietly pleased - they're going to launch on the bigger install base with zero competition from a similar game and are coming off the huge goodwill and results of TLOU.
This isn't a slam dunk PR/Brand win - given the reactions personally I'd say CD & SE may well have chosen poorly in that regard.
How exactly when Triad Wars leaked last year and SE is having a up-port of the 1st game coming out to current gen?
shacklesmcgee
Member
Or the new Hitman
SE are sending a very confusing message to gamers.
Dude, can you just....can we not even talk about...the H game turning exclusive? I don't like even thinking about it. They can take our Peggle 2, they can take our Tomb Raider, but I won't sit here and let them take our Hitman!
*sits there, does nothing*
I find it very hard to believe that Tomb Raider will only be exclusive on XBOX ONE.
I am pretty confident that there will be a release gap between consoles such as Plants VS Zombies Garden Warfare.
On that note.. PS + will have so many games for me to be occupied between the PS4, Vita and PS3 that i dont care. Kudos to MS for securing that deal but im good.
I am pretty confident that there will be a release gap between consoles such as Plants VS Zombies Garden Warfare.
On that note.. PS + will have so many games for me to be occupied between the PS4, Vita and PS3 that i dont care. Kudos to MS for securing that deal but im good.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
.....it's obscure like Bayonetta was to.. me? This could maybe perhaps also apply to the general public.
Look at U3 launch and TLOU sales - sure they launched to bigger install base but those aren't crazy numbers for the franchise or developer.
Given how popular PS4's tracking U4 might even outperform U3.
What does the game being obscure have to do with it being like the Bayonetta situation?
King Beyond the wall
Member
That's the risk
Pseudo judo
Member
He's right. The definitive version of the game in terms of visual fidelity and content is very likely to be on the competing platforms. More cash on hand now means, potentially, more money for development of the core game as well as dlc content and a larger advertising budget. I get why gamers are upset but for the franchise and the game itself this is a very positive turn of events.
Unknown One
Member
SE is basically going to boost the sales. I can see it selling 3-4 million in a week.
DOWN
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In those cases, they were either new IPs or just a third party dev adding 360 to the existing release platforms.
This is a different, crappy move.
Being slammed into irrelevancy by the backlash is now a good thing?
Have you seen any media on this game?
Chobel
Member
UC4 will destroy RoTR in graphics, in performance (60fps vs 30fps), in sales and most likely the press impressions. If this was a stunt from CD to rival UC then they've done really bad job with risk assessment.
Spottiettiedop
Member
I think MS is not looking at it like that. TR doesn't have to rival UC4 he's to head. Halo 5 will be Microsoft's game to rival any other platform's big seller. When TR is the other exclusive offered, the lineup looks alot better for MS. And I still contend most gamers (and parents who purchase consoles for their children) are not as passionate about TR's exclusivity as GAFfers. Its a gamble for sure but it may or may not pay off. Stay tuned.
I did not know that the sequel to a mediocre Uncharted-clone with more more violence has that many fans here. Its kinda sad really, considering that the last game (and probably this game, too) did not set the world on fire at all.
It was a typical third person "cinematic" action game, with the twist that it starred a girl this time. And if it is indeed timed exclusive, what the fuck is the problem?
It was a typical third person "cinematic" action game, with the twist that it starred a girl this time. And if it is indeed timed exclusive, what the fuck is the problem?
(personally i dont think there really system sellers) well UC2 maybe, amazing single player and surprisingly brilliant multiplayer. Plus the pedigree of the developer behind the series probably has alot to do with it. But in terms of length, there about the same for the average first time playthrough.
MetalFreak
Member
For someone who is been supporting the franchise since day one across different platforms, this is a fucking slap in the face.
Temple of Osiris won't be getting my money either.
Temple of Osiris won't be getting my money either.
Did you even read his post. That is not what he said at all. He said the fact that this game was bought by MS would encourage more innovation from Sony. Which makes zero sense. Here read it again:
And tell me how that says anything about more cash on hand for Tomb Raider.
Must be causing Xbone's image more harm then good it seems.
On another note, Microsoft seem to forget they own a bucket load of great IP. I would rather they spent that money to get third parties to make a new Banjo or PD instead.
Give me Viva Pinata I say.
Exactly.
TR 2013 was a really good game. Just because you weren't so impressed doesn't mean it doesn't have fans.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
This mirrors my feelings, I was all for getting an XB1 for quantum break and sunset overdrive, but now I don't want them to think it was down to this, so I may well hold off. It was this kind of crap that put me off getting a 360 initially, I would rather MS use their money to develop new IP.
Not sure if I blame MS, they don't know any better. But it seems strange of SE to reduce their potential market so significantly, which leads me to believe that come early 2016 it will be out in all other platforms.
I don't understand your comment. Are you saying SE is going to get Rise to sell more single platform (or 2) than they got TR to sel on 5? How?
Methamatics101
Member
Don't give them any ideas.
cheezcake
Member
I don't know why you'd be disappointed with MS, they're just a company who proposed a deal with SQE very beneficial to them. It is however SQE's fault that they took that deal, alienating a large portion of their audience and potentially damaging long term sustainability of one of their IPs.
In general I'm finding the hate directed at MS as opposed to SQE really weird.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Are you trying to bait me into a long chat? Because I won't fall for it.
Anyway let's drop it since it's offtopic