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DF: Star Wars Battlefront on PS4 shows huge promise - but needs work
- Thread starter Theorry
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The alpha runs really well on PC at times on a GTX 970, but can also dip into the 40s when aiming down sights among other things, so it clearly still needs to be optimized. I wouldn't read too much into performance right now.
You must be a latent genius.
"As well" as what?
Also, one game (which is in the process of being patched) in a decade doesn't make a compelling argument.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
You are right, I just did a quick scan of that list, most games were 720p or under and some had odd square resolutions that were stretched out.
This gen we are getting games that push over twice the amount of pixels with huge leaps in graphics and effects.
Blame the publishers not the hardware, people who moan about not having 1080p and 60fps are a very vocal minority, why spend more money and time optimising for 1080p when they can drop the resolution?
thelastword
Banned
If you think this will be 1080p 60fps by launch, then you are in for a rude awakening....It seems DICE is making no advancement with their engine on the PS4. 900p in 2015 is a no buy for me, but it does look sharper than most 900p games in their footage, I wonder why that is?
Most people in the western world are "PC folk" bro.
It ain't difficult to build a PC. It's like putting together a giant LEGO with expensive computer parts.
Of course, I'm comfortable with my shiny Surface Pro
Clarkus Darkus
Member
Aswell as his ridiculous claim that PC is the best place to play games*
I merely stated that if one was to go PC only, Last gen proved that alot of great games would have been missed out on.
Witcher 3 had issues of black/blue screen crashes also recently so lets not make out PC is holier than thou when it comes to games being released perfectly like your " one game in a decade claim "
It ain't difficult to build a PC. It's like putting together a giant LEGO with expensive computer parts.
Of course, I'm comfortable with my shiny Surface Pro
Check out my horse
Someone else pulled this joke on me last time I described PC building like lego
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
So this basically confirms that the reveal was classic bullshot bullshit.
The PC Alpha gameplay leaks looked pretty good though. Haven't seen a comparison yet to confirm it matched the reveal though.
Do you mean the reveal trailer? That was never meant to be confused for gameplay.
Portugeezer
Member
I don't expect it to get much better. This gen is full of 60fpr... I would rather have a locked 30.
Well, yeah.
If you go with any one platform you'll miss out on a lot of great games. With PC, you'll miss out on the least amount though:
Correct that best is subjective, though highlighted is also true for every platform if you were to stick with only one. There's tons of PC games I wouldn't want to have missed over the past generation had I not owned one. In the end, if I were to choose one of my gaming systems to stick too, PC would be my obvious choice due to how vast the content selection is on the platform. Ideally I'd own everything though.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Tell that to Batman
Clarkus Darkus
Member
Well, yeah.
If you go with any one platform you'll miss out on a lot of great games. With PC, you'll miss out on the least amount though:
Never once did i say I* only use one platform, I specifically stated i play football manager( on a perfectly capable PC)
But the notion that PC is the only place to play games is ridiculous in every way possible and laughable to even defend.
It was an in-engine trailer? Wasn't meant to be taken as gameplay. Like a CGI trailer, except they built in their engine ussing game assets.
dragonfart28
Banned
Well, yeah.
If you go with any one platform you'll miss out on a lot of great games. With PC, you'll miss out on the least amount though:
Yes, this generation has less console exclusives and there is actually better value for your dollar on PC because of Steam.
It all comes down to how much one really needs to play those few exclusives that do exist.
Clarkus Darkus
Member
My post above agrees with your statement, Im a multiple platform user. Sticking to one and stating it is superior is utter nonsense.
nelsonroyale
Member
Well, yeah.
If you go with any one platform you'll miss out on a lot of great games. With PC, you'll miss out on the least amount though:
Fair enough, although I doubt that is anything resembling like with like...i.e., consoles exclusives are likely to be bigger budget (not saying that makes the game 'better' per se obviously).
From a personal perspective though, I am happy to stick with console gaming given what time I allot to gaming.
yurinka
Member
Breaking news: a work-in-progress game in pre-alpha needs some work! I never would have thought this!
That's quite a cherry-picked selection. PC exclusives are mostly small indie games, most of them already announced to be released in consoles too.
Console exclusives use to be AAA games, that require more time and budget to be done. 2014 was the 1st year for PS4 and XBO, so these 1st gen games were made without knowing the final hardware during the most part of their development. 2015 for XBO and 2016 for PS4 will see this numbers increased in both quality and quantity.
In addition to that, exclusive games are a tiny part of both the catalogs and sales of a platform. And in case of PC, many multiplatform games get late and/or bad ports that require insane hardware to run decently because they have been made designed to run in consoles and weren't optimized properly for PC. I'd say it's more fair to consider the average metascore of all the games of each platform.
Or well, check the list of best games of the year:
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/all/filtered?year_selected=2014
Even if we don't consider issues with drivers and similar, needing to have the proper hardware,etc. PC isn't the best place to play during 2014 (or other years). Or at least didn't have the best games according to metacritic.
The only good thing about it is that if you have an expensive hardware in PC some multiplatform games will look prettier (and/or depending on the game and the configuration) run smotther, and since there are more smaller games there may be some indie that fits better your personal niche taste.
Well, yeah.
If you go with any one platform you'll miss out on a lot of great games. With PC, you'll miss out on the least amount though:
That's quite a cherry-picked selection. PC exclusives are mostly small indie games, most of them already announced to be released in consoles too.
Console exclusives use to be AAA games, that require more time and budget to be done. 2014 was the 1st year for PS4 and XBO, so these 1st gen games were made without knowing the final hardware during the most part of their development. 2015 for XBO and 2016 for PS4 will see this numbers increased in both quality and quantity.
In addition to that, exclusive games are a tiny part of both the catalogs and sales of a platform. And in case of PC, many multiplatform games get late and/or bad ports that require insane hardware to run decently because they have been made designed to run in consoles and weren't optimized properly for PC. I'd say it's more fair to consider the average metascore of all the games of each platform.
Or well, check the list of best games of the year:
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/all/filtered?year_selected=2014
Even if we don't consider issues with drivers and similar, needing to have the proper hardware,etc. PC isn't the best place to play during 2014 (or other years). Or at least didn't have the best games according to metacritic.
The only good thing about it is that if you have an expensive hardware in PC some multiplatform games will look prettier (and/or depending on the game and the configuration) run smotther, and since there are more smaller games there may be some indie that fits better your personal niche taste.
Kaffeemann
Banned
You don't know what you're talking about. I build my 1000 PC more than 6 months back, and it's destroying the consoles performance-wise and will do so until the end of this generation.
Anyway, nobody should expect locked 60 FPS on the consoles. Battlefront uses Frostbite 3 and we know how Frostbite 3 performs on consoles. Of course DICE will try to improve performance in the next months but they can't do magic.
It was close enough to be the proper choice for them to make though, it feels like a 60fps game. Not sure if anyone really expected anything different from the same engine doing mostly the same things.
Please no
30fps games are juddery, blurry and unpleasant. If you have a title running mostly at 60 it's already a significantly better game. I was generally happy with how BF4 ran on the PS4, if they simply replicate that experience it's fine with me. At 30 I won't even bother renting it because it won't be fun.
stranger79
Member
900p = no buy, sorry EA
I just cant deal with the bluriness
I just cant deal with the bluriness
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Everything from patch looping to constant crashes.
PC gaming will never be as simple and reliable as consoles simply because of the huge amounts of varying hardware setups and just general PC bullshit i.e Reg problems.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I hope they hit 1080p and a stable 60FPS.
I think it should be possible if they put enough time and work in, but I fear EA won't give them the time needed.
I think it should be possible if they put enough time and work in, but I fear EA won't give them the time needed.
dragonelite
Member
Please no
30fps games are juddery, blurry and unpleasant. If you have a title running mostly at 60 it's already a significantly better game. I was generally happy with how BF4 ran on the PS4, if they simply replicate that experience it's fine with me. At 30 I won't even bother renting it because it won't be fun.
Yeah 60fps for everything, but folks just need to accept that the consoles are
weak/weaker then expected. Devs have to pick two 1080p, 60fps or good graphics.
If you want all three you can get a gaming pc. Guess with the GPU manufactuers push to 4k
1080p at ps4 settings and 60fps should be doable with your average high mid/low high section gpu.
alexandros
Banned
I don't think that is a realistic expectation but stranger things have happened.
Not when you already have a finished engine.
dragonfart28
Banned
This isn't a game that absolutely requires 60fps.
They should shoot for 1080p 30fps.
They should shoot for 1080p 30fps.
Framerate seems pretty good for an alpha code for 40 players match.
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You probably reinstall drivers twice a day, i dont see other explanation.
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Why do You think this game is possible to run at 1080p60 on PS4?
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You probably reinstall drivers twice a day, i dont see other explanation.
lukeskymac
Member
So much stupid in one post, I can't even...
Pop
Member
Only Battlefield type games get a pass from me. In this case Battlefront. For obvious reasons.
Still weird reading these type of comments. The game is going to sell millions but on GAF this analysis is treated like we should avoid such a game because it isn't 1080p/60fps. And we all know PC outperforms consoles, no secret there. But for the price of a ps4, you can't beat this performance. Especially for the type of gameplay.
Lol what problems? Bad PC ports?
Sony is selling a lot of hardware at a very nice cost to them and the games are starting to look amazing (The Order, UC4, Horizon). You should probably try life outside of the walls of these forums if you want a realistic feel for the scope "problems" people are having with next gen consoles.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
I've been building my own computers since the 80's, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.
I never said it wouldn't continue to play games as well as consoles after 6 months, I said the parts will be outdated within 6 months.
If you buy a PC at the start of the generation you can't guarantee that the same spec will be able to play the latest games at console beating graphics settings 6-10 years later like you can with consoles.
So you spend double or triple what you spend on a console just to buy the PC and you are going to have to upgrade it at least once in the course of a generation at another £200-250 at least for a new graphics card if not a new CPU if you wanted to keep your smug superior "PC Master Race" attitude.
Or you can just buy a £300 console and not worry about anything.
Vire
Member
One game? You of all people should know that's not true... Something something From Software.
And really within the past year it's been quite bad between Watch_Dogs, Mortal Kombat X and Batman Arkham Knight.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
1. Lowered Player count.
2. Maps didn't look as geometrically detailed as BF4 and it also looked like there was less destruction.
3. PC requirements to run this game properly.(based on the Alpha)
4. Frostbite Engine isn't very well optimised for consoles and there is lots of headroom.
Those are the mains reasons why I think its a time issue, but I'm not confident DICE will get enough time. I think that Ps4 is lead plattform is a good thing, but they will just settle for 900p on Ps4 and spend the rest of their time to optimise the PC/XboxOne version, so we'll end up with three versions that are mediocrely optimised.(Which is of course better than one good version and two shit versions, but its still not what I want)
DudeWithNoName
Member
DF now writes opinion pieces, versus true analysis which brought them to where they are today. They need to be reign in some of this BS.
New CPU? You dont need new CPU.
And £200 at the end of this gen will give You a card that will last almost most of all of next gen.
I can also assure You that if someone bought a GPU that is at least 15% faster than PS4 GPU than it will last him whole gen and going by Your estimation of double/triple of the cost of the console the chance of it is pretty high.
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I dont know if player count matter than much, because the maps are more confined so engagements seems similar in scope to those from BF 4.
You're forgetting about big graphical boost compared to BF 4.
I dont think that destructibility will be as big as in BF 4, but i dont think this game will lack it.
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Yeah sure ...
You dont like analysis on early code, but i can bet that if DF would skip this analysis, we would have thread with questions where is PS4 E3 Battlefront analysis.
Dont like them, dont read them. Its really simple.
dragonfart28
Banned
I've been playing Watch Dogs on the Alpha and it looks and runs great. I've heard MKX is fine now as well.
Arkham Knight is an anomaly and the publisher is getting rightfully punished in sales because of it.
Better to examine it pre-release than get any unwelcome surprises on launch day.
Vire
Member
It'a taken months to get the two games you are playing now in acceptable conditions. Both of them were severely broken upon release, that's not acceptable to me.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
They're the best place to play when the game plays the best on it. Not all do. Case in point: Batman