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Dragon Quest press event to be held on 7/28 in Japan, livestreamed, "main series"

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Arkeband

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xaszatm said:
I'm sorry, but after E3, until I see for my own two eyes, I'm taking everything everyone says, even directors, with huge grains of salt. Are the signs pointing to it being console? Probably, but I'm still not going to trust it until I see it. I've just been drained of all the hype and "it's definitely on this" because I'm just afraid of the backlash if it turns out it isn't. It's a very pessimistic view to have but it beats having my enjoyment of things crushed by the overwhelming backlash such events can bring if it isn't predicted exactly as people wanted to.
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I don't know how much more explicit the statement has to be than to be coming from Horii him-freaking-self.
 
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Squire

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xaszatm said:
I'm sorry, but after E3, until I see for my own two eyes, I'm taking everything everyone says, even directors, with huge grains of salt. Are the signs pointing to it being console? Probably, but I'm still not going to trust it until I see it. I've just been drained of all the hype and "it's definitely on this" because I'm just afraid of the backlash if it turns out it isn't. It's a very pessimistic view to have but it beats having my enjoyment of things crushed by the overwhelming backlash such events can bring if it isn't predicted exactly as people wanted to.
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"After E3"? What are you even referencing here?
 
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sense

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xaszatm said:
I'm sorry, but after E3, until I see for my own two eyes, I'm taking everything everyone says, even directors, with huge grains of salt. Are the signs pointing to it being console? Probably, but I'm still not going to trust it until I see it. I've just been drained of all the hype and "it's definitely on this" because I'm just afraid of the backlash if it turns out it isn't. It's a very pessimistic view to have but it beats having my enjoyment of things crushed by the overwhelming backlash such events can bring if it isn't predicted exactly as people wanted to.
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what expectation was crushed at e3 for you to be pessimistic about the platform?
 
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cafemomo

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Eh i'll wager that it's gonna be PS4/Wii U (maybe PS3 as well).
Wii U to keep the Nintendo fanbase they built up happy with the PS4 version targeted for the west.
 
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threelights

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I like that during the event they can actually hold off showing the new game for quite a while if they decide to show all the other announcements first =X

I wouldn't even mind.

Either way, Niconico tends to work well for me, but I'm going with Youtube.
 
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orthodoxy1095

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xaszatm said:
I'm sorry, but after E3, until I see for my own two eyes, I'm taking everything everyone says, even directors, with huge grains of salt. Are the signs pointing to it being console? Probably, but I'm still not going to trust it until I see it. I've just been drained of all the hype and "it's definitely on this" because I'm just afraid of the backlash if it turns out it isn't. It's a very pessimistic view to have but it beats having my enjoyment of things crushed by the overwhelming backlash such events can bring if it isn't predicted exactly as people wanted to.
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What the hell are you talking about, "after E3" exactly? The man, Yuji Horii said within the last month:

I think games should be designed for the platforms they're on. Dragon Quest 11 is designed for home consoles.
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I'm not sure why you would doubt his comment.
Wynnebeck said:
Shenmue 3 and the manufactured "fiasco" that came from it as well as the whole Rise of the Tomb Raider debacle.
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There was a fiasco? I guess raising millions of dollars is truly a disaster.
 
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Wynnebeck

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suppadoopa said:
Eh i'll wager that it's gonna be PS4/Wii U (maybe PS3 as well).
Wii U to keep the Nintendo fanbase they built up happy with the PS4 version targeted for the west.
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lol You would have a point if the Wii U was selling well in either Japan or worldwide. It's doing neither and I'm pretty sure SE could care less about a platform that's not going to make them the kind of money they want for their ROI.
 
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xaszatm

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Arkeband said:
I don't know how much more explicit the statement has to be than to be coming from Horii him-freaking-self.
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Inorigo said:
"After E3"? What are you even referencing here?
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sense said:
what expectation was crushed at e3 for you to be pessimistic about the platform?
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Look, I'm not saying its a rational reason. It's not. I should be saying it's a given on consoles but I just can't. Until I see it with my own eyes, I just can't. It was watching people get wrapped up in their own heads about Nintendo E3's showing screaming about how Paper Mario Wii U, Metroid Dread, and so many unrealistic expectations were demanded when the damn fucking broke, people backlashed in such a horrible, awful way it has put a simple "everything's a rumor until direct footage is found" view for me. Because after that, my opinion has been whenever I see rumor (or vague hint, or practical confirmation), I don't think "hey, that's a cool idea if it's true" I think "Oh god, how many petitions and death threats will the company receive now?"

I despise hype now. I despise the desperation of believing and then getting lucky once in a while putting way too much air in people's heads. Turning them into entitled bastards when things don't go 100% their way because "well, Sony did it." Hype soured the Sony and Nintendo conferences for me. Sony, because everyone got bloated up on self-grandstanding to the point of disgust. Nintendo, because the overwhelming disgusting backlash made me feel disgusted with myself for liking it. I want to enjoy the Dragon Quest press event but, in my mind, I'm just thinking "how many petitions or death threats or calls for blood will there be if it doesn't match the 'necessities' of the fickle crowd."

And no, this isn't normal and I shouldn't be feeling it but it just persists like a damn miasma. So that's why, until I get confirmation video footage from the even itself, I'm doubting anything and everythiing.
 
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orthodoxy1095

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Boke1879 said:
Wait a minute. I'm so bad with conversions. Is this happening soonish or 24 hours from now?
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This is all you need:
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Snakeyes

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xaszatm said:
Look, I'm not saying its a rational reason. It's not. I should be saying it's a given on consoles but I just can't. Until I see it with my own eyes, I just can't. It was watching people get wrapped up in their own heads about Nintendo E3's showing screaming about how Paper Mario Wii U, Metroid Dread, and so many unrealistic expectations were demanded when the damn fucking broke, people backlashed in such a horrible, awful way it has put a simple "everything's a rumor until direct footage is found" view for me. Because after that, my opinion has been whenever I see rumor (or vague hint, or practical confirmation), I don't think "hey, that's a cool idea if it's true" I think "Oh god, how many petitions and death threats will the company receive now?"

I despise hype now. I despise the desperation of believing and then getting lucky once in a while putting way too much air in people's heads. Turning them into entitled bastards when things don't go 100% their way because "well, Sony did it." Hype soured the Sony and Nintendo conferences for me. Sony, because everyone got bloated up on self-grandstanding to the point of disgust. Nintendo, because the overwhelming disgusting backlash made me feel disgusted with myself for liking it. I want to enjoy the Dragon Quest press event but, in my mind, I'm just thinking "how many petitions or death threats or calls for blood will there be if it doesn't match the 'necessities' of the fickle crowd."

And no, this isn't normal and I shouldn't be feeling it but it just persists like a damn miasma. So that's why, until I get confirmation video footage from the even itself, I'm doubting anything and everythiing.
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Sounds like Nintendo's E3 took a toll on you more than anything else. Sony has yet to really disappoint with their announcements on PS4 this gen, so there's no need to be pessimistic. Besides, the series' creator already said that the lead platform for DQXI is a home console.
 
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Arkeband

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xaszatm said:
Look, I'm not saying its a rational reason. It's not. I should be saying it's a given on consoles but I just can't. Until I see it with my own eyes, I just can't. It was watching people get wrapped up in their own heads about Nintendo E3's showing screaming about how Paper Mario Wii U, Metroid Dread, and so many unrealistic expectations were demanded when the damn fucking broke, people backlashed in such a horrible, awful way it has put a simple "everything's a rumor until direct footage is found" view for me. Because after that, my opinion has been whenever I see rumor (or vague hint, or practical confirmation), I don't think "hey, that's a cool idea if it's true" I think "Oh god, how many petitions and death threats will the company receive now?"

I despise hype now. I despise the desperation of believing and then getting lucky once in a while putting way too much air in people's heads. Turning them into entitled bastards when things don't go 100% their way because "well, Sony did it." Hype soured the Sony and Nintendo conferences for me. Sony, because everyone got bloated up on self-grandstanding to the point of disgust. Nintendo, because the overwhelming disgusting backlash made me feel disgusted with myself for liking it. I want to enjoy the Dragon Quest press event but, in my mind, I'm just thinking "how many petitions or death threats or calls for blood will there be if it doesn't match the 'necessities' of the fickle crowd."

And no, this isn't normal and I shouldn't be feeling it but it just persists like a damn miasma. So that's why, until I get confirmation video footage from the even itself, I'm doubting anything and everythiing.
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I don't know what Paper Mario Wii U or Metroid Dread are.

But the creator of DQ has already talked about what it's going to be, so comparing these two situations is a bit silly.
 
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AniHawk

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Dark_castle said:
PS3, PS4, Vita, and Wii U.

Everyone's happy.
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i think that if there's a ps3 and ps4 version, any other non-sony versions of the game would be wii u and xb1. if the game is sony-exclusive (which i think it will be), then there's a chance for vita as well.

in terms of likelihood i'm going with:

1. ps3/ps4
2. ps4-only
3. ps3/ps4/psv
4. ps3/ps4/xb1
5. ps3/ps4/xb1/wiiu
6. ps3/ps4/wiiu
7. ps3/ps4/psv/xb1/wiiu

and then with pc maybe thrown in for good measure as a platform down the road.
 
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orthodoxy1095

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Snakeyes said:
Sounds like Nintendo's E3 took a toll on you more than anything else. Sony has yet to really disappoint with their announcements on PS4 this gen, so there's no need to be pessimistic.
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In fact if anything, Sony's conference literally delivered on nearly every pre-show rumor. Shenmue, FF7/R, TLG, Horizon, it was all there. I can't see how you could extrapolate from that conference into doubting the words of Horii. Even as disappointing as Nintendo's conference was, I still don't see extrapolating that conference into doubting Horii.
 
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xaszatm

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Snakeyes said:
Sounds like Nintendo's E3 took a toll on you more than anything else. Sony has yet to really disappoint with their announcements on PS4 this gen, so there's no need to be pessimistic.
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Let me rephrase that. I greatly enjoyed Sony's and Nintendo's E3 showings. Seriously, I enjoyed both and thought both were wonderful. Then I made a mistake of coming to this forum. THAT is what brought me down. Not the conference, and definitely not Nintendo's showing.

And now people think I hated Nintendo's conference. Again. Wonder-fucking-ful
 
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Some Nobody

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xaszatm said:
I'm sorry, but after E3, until I see for my own two eyes, I'm taking everything everyone says, even directors, with huge grains of salt. Are the signs pointing to it being console? Probably, but I'm still not going to trust it until I see it. I've just been drained of all the hype and "it's definitely on this" because I'm just afraid of the backlash if it turns out it isn't. It's a very pessimistic view to have but it beats having my enjoyment of things crushed by the overwhelming backlash such events can bring if it isn't predicted exactly as people wanted to.
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lol. Being pessimistic is cool but you're kinda sorta misinforming everyone else. Horii said it was for home console.
 
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Mr. RPG

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Didn't Horii say he'd like to see the next Dragon Quest on consoles, not that it would explicitly be on consoles?

I still think it could possibly be a Nintendo 3DS game.
 
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Fularu

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charlequin said:
It's been stated explicitly that it's designed for a home console with a separate controller. There isn't any lingering doubt here.
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Afaik the quote was "the game is beeing made for consoles, it's designed around a controller". Now I haven't seen the direct japanese quote, but that info (unless it came from somewhere else too) came from a french RPG blog that had an interview with Horii.

Both the Vita and 3DS are consoles with controllers. Portable ones, yes, but with controllers none the less. But out of those two, only the Vita can be played on a big screen with a "real" controller.

Anyway I'm expecting the game to be on PS3/4 now, which will seriously hinder its ability to sell much beyond 2,5 million units in Japan
 
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xaszatm

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Some Nobody said:
lol. Being pessimistic is cool but you're kinda sorta misinforming everyone else. Horii said it was for home console.
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Thank you for that enlightening response. I said that it wasn't rational. Fine I'm sorry I bothered replying. Does that make it better are will you spend a few rounds making potshots at my expense for shits and giggles?
 
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catmario

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If SQEX follow the same way just like Level 5's ni no kuni did, That would be cool.

PS4/PS3 on console, 3DS on portable. I wish this actually happen.
 
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Garou

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orthodoxy1095 said:
The relevant quote:
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We never got the transcript, so I still believe that this quote neither confirms nor denies anything. I explained it here: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=170847620

This is speculation until we could get our hands on the original Japanese, but he most likely gave no confirmation whatsoever.

In Japanese, game devices (console & handheld) are called Kateiyou Game-ki 家庭用ゲーム機 (which translates to household game-device). This is a general term and includes stationary consoles (Sueoki-ki 据置機, stationary device) as well as handhelds (携帯機 Keitai-ki, portable device).
The term itself is meant to differentiate from Arcade-machines back in the day and phone-games today.

So to summarize, I am quite sure he said Kateiyou Game-ki, because the console-specific term Sueoki-ki is rather unusual, and he most likely wanted to point out it's not going to be on mobile.

Further infos (in Japanese): https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82...83%A0%E6%A9%9F
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MatrixMan.EXE

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xaszatm said:
Look, I'm not saying its a rational reason. It's not. I should be saying it's a given on consoles but I just can't. Until I see it with my own eyes, I just can't. It was watching people get wrapped up in their own heads about Nintendo E3's showing screaming about how Paper Mario Wii U, Metroid Dread, and so many unrealistic expectations were demanded when the damn fucking broke, people backlashed in such a horrible, awful way it has put a simple "everything's a rumor until direct footage is found" view for me. Because after that, my opinion has been whenever I see rumor (or vague hint, or practical confirmation), I don't think "hey, that's a cool idea if it's true" I think "Oh god, how many petitions and death threats will the company receive now?"

I despise hype now. I despise the desperation of believing and then getting lucky once in a while putting way too much air in people's heads. Turning them into entitled bastards when things don't go 100% their way because "well, Sony did it." Hype soured the Sony and Nintendo conferences for me. Sony, because everyone got bloated up on self-grandstanding to the point of disgust. Nintendo, because the overwhelming disgusting backlash made me feel disgusted with myself for liking it. I want to enjoy the Dragon Quest press event but, in my mind, I'm just thinking "how many petitions or death threats or calls for blood will there be if it doesn't match the 'necessities' of the fickle crowd."

And no, this isn't normal and I shouldn't be feeling it but it just persists like a damn miasma. So that's why, until I get confirmation video footage from the even itself, I'm doubting anything and everythiing.
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I don't know how completely made up Wii U games are in any way comparable to a game the series creator has explicitly said is designed for home console. Weird comparison, man.
 
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Snakeyes

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xaszatm said:
Let me rephrase that. I greatly enjoyed Sony's and Nintendo's E3 showings. Seriously, I enjoyed both and thought both were wonderful. Then I made a mistake of coming to this forum. THAT is what brought me down. Not the conference, and definitely not Nintendo's showing.

And now people think I hated Nintendo's conference. Again. Wonder-fucking-ful
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Fair enough. But yeah, there's no need to worry about where Dragon Quest is going to end up because we've heard enough from Horii himself.

"I wanna play that shit on the big screen" - Yuji Horii
"Dragon Quest XI will be, for instance, designed for living room consoles" - Yuji Horii

It's absolutely going to be a home console game first.
 
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crinale

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crinale said:
For ppl who are thinking Horii may have referred to dedicated gaming in general rather than "home console" on French Japan Expo interview, here's another source he really mean to prefer home console. In this article he blatantly stated "having controller and screen on box exhausts you than having them separated" (he again mentions about big screen too).

This was end-2014 article but I didn't post it back then.. since I thought it would spark controversy.

Edit: Click here if you're fluent in Japanese for details, since link in original article seems to be dead.
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Quoting myself again but Horii did say playing handheld is tiring and having controller & screen separated is preferable, in front of his master (Kazuo Koike). BTW this interview was conducted last December, after DQH's existence was revealed.
FYI this isn't even at gaming magazine so it's not any PR talk or anything IMHO. Not that DQ11 won't appear on handheld but it is crystal clear what he prefers (not necessary what SE prefers, of course).
 
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