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[SerTapTap]

lol

The destruction is great, shame it's brought back this garbage reporting though.

If we're going to go like this, how much of a Powerful Console is a full Planetside 2 match, since you know, I guess we're counting the computing power of every device connected to a match now.

 

[Savinowned]

So many replies bracing for a massive war haha

As a primarily Xbox gamer, what I've seen so far is exciting... But I won't get my hopes up too much if it ends up delivering wrongly. Cautious optimism is the key here I would say.

 

[Newtype-001]

 

[Acquiescence]

I look forward to seeing gameplay footage that illustrates what he's talking about.

 

[CalamityPixel]

I'll believe it when the final retail product hits stores.

Until then, this will be filed in the same drawer with Milo and Kinect.

The difference between this and Milo and Kinect, is that this had a real time demo shown in front of people.

This is real, no denying.

 

[Bigfellahull]

Haven't we had full level destruction on Ps2's red faction already? Why is Crackdown the first next gen game to take it a step further?

I think you will find the difference is that with Red Faction - the destruction was pretty much fake. By that I mean the debris and remaining objects are just visual. With Crackdown - all the debris is still physically simulated. So each part of the original structure is a part of crackdowns physics simulation. At least that's what I took away from Dave's talk.

 

[KORNdoggy]

Haven't we had full level destruction on Ps2's red faction already? Why is Crackdown the first next gen game to take it a step further?

because entire 100% destruction isn't wanted in most cases. it breaks mechanics and gameplay and design. it was a largely throwaway novelty in red faction. and there is a reason it's limited to a clusterfuck online MP mode where challenge and balance isn't necessary.

 

[SplitYourInfinities]

 

[JaggedSac]

lol

The destruction is great, shame it's brought back this garbage reporting though.

If we're going to go like this, how much of a Powerful Console is a full Planetside 2 match, since you know, I guess we're counting the computing power of every device connected to a match now.

While this quote is certainly silly, the bolded is certainly not what is being counted here.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Yes it is, but MS have the server power to do it with AZURE. It's nothing unique to MS but they are the only ones doing it.

Yep. These sorts of off-box calculations have always had promise, but you would essentially need a Google or Amazon or Apple or Microsoft to have the pipelines in place to make it feasible.

I'm certainly hopeful that this comes to fruition with most of its promise intact. Until it's in my hands though I'll be wary...

 

[gamechanger87]

Do we have any videos of this alleged amazingness? Id love to see them

I look forward to seeing gameplay footage that illustrates what he's talking about.

Here you go. 10 min demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFWIpAPvF-Q&feature=youtu.be

Note: Weapon damage is significantly increased so that it doesn't take all day to destroy stuff. People at gamescom are playing this demo.

 

[Robaperas]

*internet access (fees may apply)

But seriously, it's a really impressive tech and even better if they're optimizing it for shit-tier connections like mine.

 

[le.phat]

Theorically, the cloud could make my toaster the most powerful online toaster there's ever been.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Well, he never said it boosted GPU power, even if Microsoft's being economical with the truth.

By connecting to the Microsoft Cloud, play with twenty times the computational power of your Xbox One.

 

[SerTapTap]

In terms of processing, I agree. I'm now legitimately more excited as to how developers will handle this as opposed to traditional games.

I mean, we're like halfway into the gen, one game has used it, and probably only MS studios will have access to it. I'd say we'd be very lucky to see more than a couple more games that do anything like this this gen. I can't imagine they'll be putting this in Halo 5 or anything.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Who the fuck is Cloud? Why everyone talk so much about this guy, I don't know who he is. Is he even exist?

 

[Arxisz]

What happens when you're offline?

720p.

 

[Signet Son]

4 player MP only requires 2-4mbps connection speed! Not bad, MS...not bad.

 

[On Demand]

These kinds of things never work like they say they do in practice. He can nod all he wants.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Theorically, the cloud could make my toaster the most powerful online toaster there's ever been.

You have an online toaster?

 

[Ran rp]

When a game session fills up a server bar does that mean they're using an entire server or simply accessing one?

I feel like I'm missing something here lol.

 

[Yurikerr]

Reserving my spot in what can be a thread for the ages.

The technology is really impressive, the possibilities of use for the future are giant.

The clickbait title for the article is a touch of genius.

 

[Javin98]

Oh, look, we're seeing the return of those "the power of the cloud makes the XB1 the most powerful console" PR statements. Is it 2013?

 

[JaggedSac]

4 player MP only requires 2-4mbps co nections speed! Not bad, MS...not bad.

How much does Netflix use?

Oh, look, we're seeing the return of those "the power of the cloud makes the XB1 the most powerful console" PR statements. Is it 2013?

Technically there was no statement, merely a nod in response to a question

 

[Rob85Fr]

I don't know everything about the hardware of the Xbone, but the "Cloud" possibilities are making possible with a special piece of hardware, of this is just lines of code ?

If all this is code, why not create games with these possibilities on PS4, PC, even DS / Vita / iPhone (maybe it's already done) ?

EDIT : Well seems people have already answered the question some posts before.

 

[Hyun Sai]

Well, time to bring back the always connected requirement, right ?

 

[Demoskinos]

That sounds cool but its also a bit concerning to me that this processing can't be done locally. I mean what happens when those servers are turned off? A lot of games are very dependant on feature sets being able to access a network. Tying game performance to network connections is....I dunno what to think about that.

 

[Zombie James]

Jones says that his team are optimising the game for a 2-4mbps connection.

So Crackdown 3 is going to be an online-only single-player game? What happens when the servers inevitably get shut down? Or there's a network outage?

 

[JayWood2010]

The tech is very exciting and can only help gaming. Current Gen Consoles certainly wouldnt be able to achieve this type of stuff without Cloud Computing so it can only enhance them. Exciting times ahead.

The possibilities are endless with this kind of tech

 

[gamechanger87]

When a game session fills up a server bar does that mean they're using an entire server or simply accessing one?

I feel like I'm missing something here lol.

Check the video I posted. In debug, they show the game maxing the console and then it tracks server usage.

 

[llAuburnll]

This game is really causing people some grief. I can't believe the RFG comparisons are still floating around either. This is nowhere even close.

 

[Acquiescence]

Here you go. 10 min demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFWIpAPvF-Q&feature=youtu.be

Note: Weapon damage is significantly increased so that it doesn't take all day to destroy stuff. People at gamescom are playing this demo.

Thanks!

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Oh, look, we're seeing the return of those "the power of the cloud makes the XB1 the most powerful console" PR statements. Is it 2013?

This isn't MS PR.

 

[MaximumSpider]

Can we put it in DBZ terms?
Is the PS4 Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku while the Xbox One is now the new Beerus?

 

[Maninthemirror]

New article on GamesRadar. Probably controversial, but we like that on GAF ... right? They have a full preview up later today.

http://www.gamesradar.com/crackdown-3-effectively-turns-your-xbox-one-most-powerful-console-ever-made/

well of course the exclusive developer will say it is the most powerful console. And what about people who have a weak connection? would that make this the most inconsistent as well?

 

[Dynasty]

LOL that title, this ain't going to end well.

 

[JaggedSac]

So Crackdown 3 is going to be an online-only single-player game?

No

 

[SenseiAsad]

Good lord at the denial. I think this is gonna be my 'next gen is here' moment.

 

[gamechanger87]

That sounds cool but its also a bit concerning to me that this processing can't be done locally. I mean what happens when those servers are turned off? A lot of games are very dependant on feature sets being able to access a network. Tying game performance to network connections is....I dunno what to think about that.

So Crackdown 3 is going to be an online-only single-player game? What happens when the servers inevitably get shut down? Or there's a network outage?

Microsoft doesn't turn off servers. The game will access Thunderhead and draw based on usage. This isn't like Reagen/Sumo are running a server farm.

Single player (offline) / 4 player co-op campaign with limited damage as full destruction doesn't fit the campaign.

Multiplayer in a different city with full destruction and it will be justified by the lore.

 

[Javin98]

This isn't MS PR.

Ok, but still seeing the return of these statements is hilarious.

Watched the video at all? Of course not. That would make entirely too much sense.

So you're saying the cloud does make the XB1 stronger? LOL, ok.

 

[llAuburnll]

Oh, look, we're seeing the return of those "the power of the cloud makes the XB1 the most powerful console" PR statements. Is it 2013?

Watched the video at all? Of course not. That would make entirely too much sense.

 

[TechOne]

Haven't we had full level destruction on Ps2's red faction already? Why is Crackdown the first next gen game to take it a step further?

It begins!

 

[Fracas]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Cool nonetheless.

 

[LegalEagleMike]

I don't know everything about the hardware of the Xbone, but the "Cloud" possibilities are making possible with a special piece of hardware, of this is just lines of code ?

If all this is code, why not create games with these possibilities on PS4, PC, even DS / Vita / iPhone (maybe it's already done) ?

Well you need the infrastructure. Microsoft has been investing very heavily in this area and they consider it one of the most important parts of their future as a company, not just gaming.

 

[GavinGT]

So Crackdown 3 is going to be an online-only single-player game? What happens when the servers inevitably get shut down? Or there's a network outage?

Campaign mode can be played offline or in 4-player co-op. There's no or limited destruction in campaign. Full destruction is in a separate online-only mode.

 

[danowat]

I can't understand why people don't get that this is a two tier damage system.

 

[JayWood2010]

So Crackdown 3 is going to be an online-only single-player game? What happens when the servers inevitably get shut down? Or there's a network outage?

No. Crackdown can be played offline with limited destructibility.

 

[Bigfellahull]

I don't know if we can call it the most powerful console if it needs an internet connection by default to leverage that extra power.

Why not? Supercomputers are networked and they are treaty as one entity?

I think if a console can leverage online compute it should be taken into account when comparing similar hardware.

 

[Impeccable]

Everything is changing. Microsoft is a new company with Spencer driving the ship.

 

[ClosingADoor]

So Crackdown 3 is going to be an online-only single-player game? What happens when the servers inevitably get shut down? Or there's a network outage?

No. The destruction is only in multiplayer matches. Singleplayer will work fine offline.