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The Tomorrow Children Beta Announced
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Movalpolos
Banned
Dammit. I want more.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
memo memo
Nestled_Grizzly
Member
Even with a griefer, Gaf Town prevailed!
That was a great time though!
Thanks everyone for making this beta test an awesome one.
That was a great time though!
Thanks everyone for making this beta test an awesome one.
The beta is over. Countdown clocks were posted in the OP.
Did you guys visit the ministry of labor often? It said my toil rank was 3 at the ministry, put when the leaderboard popped up I was like 13th.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Would be cool if we get an exclusive item for playing the beta.
We do, we get a really nice looking white outfit.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I understand what the developers are trying to do by limiting player interactions but I can't help but wish players didn't disappear as long as you were within a certain radius (no matter how short it is).
Something else I was talking to someone about (which probably goes very far away from the developers vision) would be some sort of text chat. Imagine jumping into the world and not being able to speak. Gradually you gain the ability to type 1 character, then two characters, three characters, etc. Maybe even put a cap on the characters to 2, 3, or 4.
Something else I was talking to someone about (which probably goes very far away from the developers vision) would be some sort of text chat. Imagine jumping into the world and not being able to speak. Gradually you gain the ability to type 1 character, then two characters, three characters, etc. Maybe even put a cap on the characters to 2, 3, or 4.
Video of the last few minutes at GAF Town (I think a lot of people were offline already, but eh...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4MJ-QmTgFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4MJ-QmTgFM
chrominance
Member
Somehow I just spent FOUR HOURS playing this, so clearly QGames is doing something right. I do, however, have some sugestions:
1) Don't let people craft buildings at the workbench if we've hit the mandate capacity! Or at least warn that you won't be able to actually do anything with the signpost if you craft it! The town I was in was littered with signposts that couldn't be built, which led to the hilarity of having something like twelve Ministry of Labour signposts waiting for capacity to free up. Plus, since most people in the town didn't have houses, no one could dismantle anything to fix it.
2) Make the whole mandate system more clear. How much does each building cost in terms of mandate? How much mandate capacity does the town have? What monuments contribute to mandate and how much? I had no clue as to any of this, which meant it was unclear to me how to contribute to the town.
3) Make dismantling important buildings harder. GAF Town already had their hilarious/awful trolling incident. In my town, sometime during the last hour of the beta, someone dismantled the Ministry of Labour buildings, meaning no one could earn tickets anymore. Worse, because of the aforementioned mandate limit, no one could rebuild it, and if everyone spent their tickets badly no one would've been able to dismantle anything either. (I did have a dismantler, but since I couldn't build a house, I couldn't do anything.) My suggestion: make certain buildings require a vote to dismantle, or multiple people with dismantlers. Either would require some kind of consensus to tear down buildings, which hopefully will mitigate the worst offenses. Communicating that consensus could be a challenge, of course.
4) Make more islands available at one time, or improve the mix of materials available at each one. There's at least one island that felt mostly useless (the one with the floating bubble islands) because most of the materials were a) high off the ground, which made them essentially unreachable to most, and b) just a few coal formations and a whole lot of structural material that revealed nothing. I think that island took less time to strip-mine than the others, but it was still way too long, and in the meantime you had people in town unable to build most things because there was a severe metal shortage. Other islands, though, were a lot better even though some of them had even more inaccessible areas, mainly because the people who could get to those areas rained down metal and wood onto the rest of us.
Those are just my initial suggestions from the beta. I assume a thorough tutorial or documentation is in the works, but if it's not I would of course suggest that as well. Once you get over the "how does literally everything work" part in the first hour or so, the game is pretty neat! It reminds me of one of my favourite games, A Tale in the Desert, where people would basically bootstrap Egyptian civilization by gathering materials for research at universities to unlock basic technologies like clay-making, agriculture and eventually more advanced tech like glass-making and chariots. There are so few games that do this kind of world creation on an MMO-like level.
1) Don't let people craft buildings at the workbench if we've hit the mandate capacity! Or at least warn that you won't be able to actually do anything with the signpost if you craft it! The town I was in was littered with signposts that couldn't be built, which led to the hilarity of having something like twelve Ministry of Labour signposts waiting for capacity to free up. Plus, since most people in the town didn't have houses, no one could dismantle anything to fix it.
2) Make the whole mandate system more clear. How much does each building cost in terms of mandate? How much mandate capacity does the town have? What monuments contribute to mandate and how much? I had no clue as to any of this, which meant it was unclear to me how to contribute to the town.
3) Make dismantling important buildings harder. GAF Town already had their hilarious/awful trolling incident. In my town, sometime during the last hour of the beta, someone dismantled the Ministry of Labour buildings, meaning no one could earn tickets anymore. Worse, because of the aforementioned mandate limit, no one could rebuild it, and if everyone spent their tickets badly no one would've been able to dismantle anything either. (I did have a dismantler, but since I couldn't build a house, I couldn't do anything.) My suggestion: make certain buildings require a vote to dismantle, or multiple people with dismantlers. Either would require some kind of consensus to tear down buildings, which hopefully will mitigate the worst offenses. Communicating that consensus could be a challenge, of course.
4) Make more islands available at one time, or improve the mix of materials available at each one. There's at least one island that felt mostly useless (the one with the floating bubble islands) because most of the materials were a) high off the ground, which made them essentially unreachable to most, and b) just a few coal formations and a whole lot of structural material that revealed nothing. I think that island took less time to strip-mine than the others, but it was still way too long, and in the meantime you had people in town unable to build most things because there was a severe metal shortage. Other islands, though, were a lot better even though some of them had even more inaccessible areas, mainly because the people who could get to those areas rained down metal and wood onto the rest of us.
Those are just my initial suggestions from the beta. I assume a thorough tutorial or documentation is in the works, but if it's not I would of course suggest that as well. Once you get over the "how does literally everything work" part in the first hour or so, the game is pretty neat! It reminds me of one of my favourite games, A Tale in the Desert, where people would basically bootstrap Egyptian civilization by gathering materials for research at universities to unlock basic technologies like clay-making, agriculture and eventually more advanced tech like glass-making and chariots. There are so few games that do this kind of world creation on an MMO-like level.
I'm curious how the economy will work in the final game. I was mostly buying stuff off the black market, and I'm not sure what the conditions are for getting money for the black market. Getting tools and such with credits was too expensive really, that whole market was useless to me.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
From the feedback we've received so far, we can see that there's definitely a need for more clarification. There are a lot of systems/information sets that come into play right from the start, and while some of it is explained in text pop-ups or when interacting with the thing itself, there's a lot that isn't and the information terminal that supplements it isn't a default fixture in the town.
We'll keep improving!
We'll keep improving!
Couldn't you, for example, make the tutorial a bit longer to introduce players to more elements? That way, without the distraction of having giant enemies and people running around, the player might be able to remember things more easily.
ChosenPredator
Banned
yeah from the only section i was allowed to play, I was surprised how fast it went forward to the train part, a longer tutorial probably would of been better..lots of people saying "no idea what im doing"
TheExecutive
Member
I gotta say I really enjoyed what I played. However, I still have no idea how the systems work. I was just digging to find resources no idea of how they turn into structures. It leaves me with a feeling of "what is the point of doing any of this?". Longer or optional tutorials would only improve things... That is unless you guys can't fit it in your development because you are releasing it soon. *wink* *wink*
So other things I realized, you can trash sign posts you just have to make your character throw it in the bin I think.
Also it seems like if you start repairs at the same time and only have resources to finish one it will finish both. Doesn't seem to be a huge deal and I can't really test it myself, I might be wrong.
Also it seems like if you start repairs at the same time and only have resources to finish one it will finish both. Doesn't seem to be a huge deal and I can't really test it myself, I might be wrong.
Raven Prime
Member
Damn, I missed the final phase, could have sworn I read in game it would be on the 24th. Oh well, I had fun in the 2 hours or so that I played the game. But was hoping to get a better feel for the game before the beta ended.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Wink wink wink wink
wapplew
Member
Release Tomorrow!
Jelly Rajah
Banned
What is the purpose of the underground market (the one you can order things from with the transmitter)? It seems to be much better than the legit store and it isn't very hard to get that currency.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
It depends on how often you use it. There are a lot of items that can only be obtained with Freemans, and if you get use to those you burn through pretty quickly.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Yea I agree with this. Had a lot of fun but it was tough to keep a tab on everyone!
Good times though, and should be a really fun time once it drops.
I would gladly pay for it day one also but I have a few friends who I could in no way convince to buy this game but if it was free, I'm sure they'd enjoy it.
chrominance
Member
It trickled in for me, but not that quickly. Weirder was that it would just randomly show up next to me sometimes, almost like some invisible person had dropped their wallet or something. I have no idea if the randomness is intentional or if there was some hidden trigger I'm not aware of.
The biggest thing I liked about the black market wasn't necessarily the new items I could get, but the fact that I didn't have to go back to town to buy them. I get why there's a difference but boy would I love to be able to replenish my pickaxe or shovel without heading back to town.
bender
What time is it?
Had a pretty good time but couldn't shake the feeling that I was a grunt gathering resources in an RTS game. Some random thoughts:
-I wish you could turn off the fish eye camera (maybe there is a way?)
-Slide puzzles for crafting are a bummer. I get that they are there to tie up the resource station and the players gather but there has to be a better way.
-Love, love, love the art, just wish there was a character creator
-There may need to be something implemented that locks a dropped light source from being moved by other players (maybe for a short duration). I'm a bad person and killed mining teammates by swiping their lanterns. *insert evil laugh*
-I wish you could turn off the fish eye camera (maybe there is a way?)
-Slide puzzles for crafting are a bummer. I get that they are there to tie up the resource station and the players gather but there has to be a better way.
-Love, love, love the art, just wish there was a character creator
-There may need to be something implemented that locks a dropped light source from being moved by other players (maybe for a short duration). I'm a bad person and killed mining teammates by swiping their lanterns. *insert evil laugh*
Mike Works
Member
I know this was just a beta, but it really needed a deeper tutorial. I was on board early on, but once I was dumped in the city I just felt like I wasn't contributing much of anything. Didn't know how or why I was scoring points, or what those random numbers that popped up did.
I'm sure there'll be a nice sect of gamers that are willing to seek out this information online on their own, but the game risks losing a big portion of people who won't do that.
I'm sure there'll be a nice sect of gamers that are willing to seek out this information online on their own, but the game risks losing a big portion of people who won't do that.
Prototype Viktor
Member
That's 4 winks, 4 letters per wink, 4 x 4 = February 14th release date with a steam code for half-life 3
Fix The Scientist
Member
This game is really something special.
EventHorizon
Member
Ditto. There was quite a few times where I didn't know what to do. The island we could go to was either about to dematerialize or was picked clean. In town the only productive thing I could see that I could do was to make electricity but that got full pretty quick.
Maybe I missed it or it's a future upgrade by I also wish I had some kind of compass. I'd probably get use to it after I played a while but with the camera being so close behind you, I got turned around too easily inside the island. That's probably because I was just trying to figure out how to play the game which distracted me keeping my orientation.
Prototype Viktor
Member
just remembered something that one shot kill rocket is still in the game yes?