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What we know so far about the Nintendo NX with sources
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Mr. MondayNight
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"such as airplane cockpit controls and ultrasound machines."
both of these are priced significantly higher than where the NX needs to be. hell cheapest Ultra sound machine I've seen is priced at $1,100 - 1,200
Agreed. Mobile games already mastered the bite-sized formula and its available on devices people already own.
The handheld is a dedicated games machine who's product differentiation is meaty and deep games on the go or in a portable format.
LOL How is that even remotely comparable? So you mean to tell me that when you see something like this...
You believe that it is the gpu that makes it cost so much? ...
Mr. MondayNight
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LOL How is that even remotely comparable? So you mean to tell me that when you see something like this...
You believe that it is the gpu that makes it cost so much? ...
No, but it's a major component of it none the less when you quite obviously need the high power output from the GPU itself to produce a usable picture.
oh and when I said 1,100 - 1,200 I meant ultrasound machines that looked more like this.
than the behemoth you posted which would clearly cost a lot more.
And then you factor in the fact that a game system will be far more mass produced and purchased than a single style of ultra sound equipment and realize that what they charge the mass market differs from a contract involving millions and millions of chips for one customer. If NX used this they would not need to sell it for anywhere near what they would charge a customer buying a few.
LOL
LOL
Mr. MondayNight
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I believe if you're gonna try and quote something may as well quote the whole thing so people don't get confused.
Übermatik;193859919 said:
day one buy
Doesn't change the fact that it would probably still be more expensive than an off the shelf part or a custom chipset based on an off the shelf GPU instead of some overkill chip designed for aviation and medical uses.
Graphics Horse
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It's part of their QOL initiative
Love hotels...ultra sound machines...it all makes sense now.
R
Rösti
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And QOL is already trademarked under good and services "contraceptive devices" in Japan. So should you get tired of babies and wanna avoid getting more, you'll have that option too.
Reading through all these speculations, I still think that would be a mistake not to launch the handheld and the console during the same holiday season. Especially if they share the branding and the whole purpose of NX would be to exist as a shared platform. A launch that won't benefit from the same marketing campaign around the same launch games just sounds like an expensive and risky proposition. You can't just launch the console 4 months later with games that were launched 4 months ago, there's just a bad message to send there. And to have additional games for a launch after 4 months just seem to me like another 3ds/Wii U crunch season.
The only way such a launch makes sense is if the games are not really shared. And I really hope that's not the case.
The only way such a launch makes sense is if the games are not really shared. And I really hope that's not the case.
WiiRevolution1
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BS. Every single game works better on handhelds because of sleep mode and not needing a tv. (Tho PS4 now has sleep mode) its a preference. Just because you prefer a game like Skyrim on a tv doesn't mean everyone does. Skyrim being a tv only game is what made me not buy it.
Doesn't matter, I am 100% certain all games will work on both so it'll allow people to choose their preference of tv vs portable. and I can't wait to play Zelda U on NX Portable this year.
You'll see. You'll all see!
Spyder_Monkey
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Yep look at how well the Vita is selling compared to the PS4. People just love playing games on handhelds. The vast majority of consumer sure do think it's a better experience.
I'm not sure what I think would be best here (depends on how shared they really are), but it might not be feasible to ensure enough shipments for two separate hardware launches in the same holiday season. Hard to know, though.
That would be a good excuse, yes, but still a mistake. They could try to go with September for the handheld and November for the console to alleviate that.
They probably won't launch them at the same time so people are not overwelhmed by the cost.
Paying $199 Now and $299 later sound a lot better than $500 now. Don't forget many people said the Wii "wasn't really $250" because you needed four wiimotes to get the "full" experience.
Paying $199 Now and $299 later sound a lot better than $500 now. Don't forget many people said the Wii "wasn't really $250" because you needed four wiimotes to get the "full" experience.
I don't want to take this too far off-topic, so bear with me for this post.
Ultrasound machines?
Okay...here is the only Nintendo device worthy of being called QOL. It was for the disabled & paralyzed, offering a measure of happiness for those in very, very difficult life-long trials.
(video games & computer entertainment - december, 1989)
Ultrasound machines?
Okay...here is the only Nintendo device worthy of being called QOL. It was for the disabled & paralyzed, offering a measure of happiness for those in very, very difficult life-long trials.
(video games & computer entertainment - december, 1989)
Giving the state of their home console business, and the fact the NX platform should be here for a long period of time (the hardwares will iterate but the OS will remain compatible, like iOS/Android), I can see them taking their time for the home console.
And even do like they did with the new 3DS, selling it themselves to their customers at first.
That's a wild guess, I agree, though.
But while the handheld will already be mass-market, they can slowly but safely release a home console to their loyalists, before releasing it more loudly when the product will be fine-tuned and the software library more complete. I'm talking about a 6-12 months delay here.
I don't understand this. People are not expected to buy both at launch. The ones who want that should get a nice bundle or something, but the whole idea is that most of the people will buy just one of them, at least in the beginning.
So you expect another empty year (like with the Wii) for their console. To thank the "loyalists" I guess.
Yeah, if the launches are close, but outside of, say, the same build up to the holiday window, the eggs they maybe should be putting into one strong launch "basket" will be somehow split between two. That doesn't bode well. (The September and then November speculation is much more pleasing than the Fall and then Spring speculation in this regard).
However, assume Zelda U is ported and Retro and TEPD meet their three year cycles this fall. Would pulling a DKTF with Retro again and holding it to spring make sense? When is the next Mario Kart to be expected? Summer/Fall 2017?
I think Nintendo needs a strong launch on this hardware. They aren't sitting on loads of customers who will just upgrade. They probably aren't going to have much 3rd party help. What does the logic of game releases say about NX launch?
DKC doesn't hold that system selling power though. If they try to pull this separate launch maybe Splatoon 2 could be a better idea than DKC. Or a Splatoon 2/MK9 combo. That might work, but we're talking about a may 2017 release earliest.
Which will leave again the Nintendo console market dead for half a year at least.
Afro Thunder
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Going to bed. I hope wake up and see some kind of leak...
Can someone explain to me what is special about free form displays and the screens that Nintendo seems to be using?
One of the articles mentions that Nintendo is considering to make a hole in the center of the device. This makes it seem like a QoL product rather than a gaming system.
One of the articles mentions that Nintendo is considering to make a hole in the center of the device. This makes it seem like a QoL product rather than a gaming system.
Graphics Horse
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The controller patent thread would be a good place to start.
If you don't want to read, the general benefits are:
1: More screen space
2: Screen/Touch panel can fit around control surfaces, this gives rise to context sensitive buttons etc.
3: It looks cool.
-Pyromaniac-
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vita did it best with making it so easy to suspend and resume any game any time. Was the fastest and most convenient.
Anyway Nintendo's best bet is to create their own app store where devs can put their games on whether bite sized or full fledged. Best of every world.
Graphics Horse
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DS & PSP already mastered it I thought.
Doesn't eShop do this now? (Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean!)
It sure does. Their are definitely some doors you have to open to do such a thing. Hopefully with Nintendo's new developer portal and NX, they'll really open things up for devs all over.
I'm guessing because the only thing people outside of jpn have seen are target specs and a software dev environment. We've had some tiny hints as to the target specs and as to what kind of grunt is required for the dev environment. Once the actual kits come, there will be more leaks because people talk.
-Pyromaniac-
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I mean make it a lot easier for devs to just upload what they want though I do think there should be light reviewing like apple does with the ios app store. It's not stringent but it's there.
Nintendo has summoned the Sword of Damocles over every developer and publisher's head.
The way I understand it, the new developer website and the Nintendo Web Framework achieve this pretty well. Always room for improvement of course
Unprecedented support at launch guaranteed!
Did you say Apple has light reviewing? Nintendo's policies are much better than Apple's. You can put practically any game you want on the eShop.
If you are trying to make a comparison to let devs do anything they want, Android + Google Play would be a far better comparison.
It's so enjoyable to lurk in here though.
WiiRevolution1
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*Looks at Monster Hunter sales*
Your right they do!
*rolls eyes* I've heard this whole "handhends can't do home experiences" always excuses. Its old now.
Vita sold badly not because of more home style games, but because Sony badly supported it. Any Sony game that got made was usually not made by their main teams and were farmed out. Only Gravity Rush and Tearaway were the exceptions.
MH4U, Super Mario 3D Land, A Link Between Worlds, Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, and more are already at the home systems levels same way Nintendo puts their best teams on handhelds same as consoles and it shows. They treat them equally and at this point, if they're going to combine them they are going all the way.
Yet Nintendo's handhelds tend to sell better than their consoles.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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You guys are funny if the 2 are working together they definitely will launch the "console" even if its just a supplemental box that supports the handheld. Thats how cartridges will come back.
We get investor results about 1 AM EST Feb. 2, which is Monday night. We get the meeting happening at 8 PM EST on Tues. 😊
That's Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday AM JST, respectively.
Got it, thank you
Hero of Legend
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Coming back to this, you gave me an awesome idea.
What if Bandai Namco would REMAKE Tales of Symphonia for NX, Vesperia-style, and Nintendo worked with them on ToS amiibo starting with Lloyd?
The Tales series was basically born in the west with Symphonia on GC and still remains the highest performing entry to date in the west. Nintendo fans still hold the series in very high regard, proved by how neck-and-neck ToS DOTNW and Vesperia sold (low-budget sequel vs AAA HD title), and how well Abyss 3DS did in the west.
Symphonia is still very famous in the Nintendo community and I think a remake on NX exclusively and accompanied by an amiibo line could be a recipe for big success IMO.
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