Good luck, hope you and your source get bish verified. It would be awesome to know for sure Zelda is an NX (at least) launch window title even if it was highly speculated/obvious.The biggest news was NX 2016 launch and Zelda NX during launch window (with the possibility of it at launch).
The rest of the info is great too but not as big as that steak.
*Update on PM* I have been contacted by bishoptl! I'm going in GAF, someone give me the Mortal Kombat Shang Tsung gif ASAP!
I will see you on the otherside guys wish my source from Nintendo and myself luck
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Console in 2016, handheld in 2017 makes sense if Nintendo aren't confident to launch two oieces of hardware in the same quarter. Either from a supply perspective, or not wanting to dilute launch sales due to people choosing which to buy. Better to sell lots of one thing and get good headlines/word of mouth, and then follow up in spring 2017 to build on that momentum.
Personally I want the handheld ASAP but I can see the logic. Maybe if they're ready they'll launch the handheld in Japan Q4 2016? And if they've seen sense they'll revert to region free and then we can all import one while the mass market happily waits until 2017
Personally I want the handheld ASAP but I can see the logic. Maybe if they're ready they'll launch the handheld in Japan Q4 2016? And if they've seen sense they'll revert to region free and then we can all import one while the mass market happily waits until 2017
reelbigtink
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What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
Pop some scroll triggers on this guy and I'm 100% on board.
ecosse_011172
Junior Member
I can't fathom why that would be a good idea, your thumbs would block your vision of parts of the screen.
It screams "pointless gimmick for the sake of new tech".
Nah, those sticks are really blocking the screen.
What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
Looks like you'd only see half the game.
Btw best next gen gfx I've seen is not from unreal 4 but this:
https://youtu.be/oGvppTf5-b0
I was a bit disappointed when I saw ps4 gfx.
I thought it would be more like this video and still hope the nx can do this, probably not happening ☺
https://youtu.be/oGvppTf5-b0
I was a bit disappointed when I saw ps4 gfx.
I thought it would be more like this video and still hope the nx can do this, probably not happening ☺
What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
Hell no.
If you have to cover the screen in any way, especially for prolonged time, you have failed as a developer of hardware/software.
Graphics Horse
Member
What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
This is what I've been picturing for the handheld recently, but without the handles, and with a thinner bezel except at the base where it would have room for camera and system buttons. Smaller sticks too. I should just draw my own again
Agree with you. To get this working, all important detail should be visible between the buttons. The rest is for filling up the space
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
I admit it's eye catching, but it doesn't look terribly practical. Then again, if we think about it, if this is the controller for the console then I could see it working if ported games only make token use of the old Wii U Gamepad and other NX games only make token uses, like integrating UI and menu setups. That might actually look pretty fucking nifty.
Looks kinda weird blocking live gameplay though.
If what I said above is true it could be a a good balance between not having the gigantic gamepad and having a controller with a sizable screen.
reelbigtink
Member
How else will a donut shape work unless you're constantly blocking some of the image?
Fahzgoolin
Banned
If the dual sticks were lower like the dualshock it could work?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
That Zelda picture is incredibly iconic considering how much we have seen of the game
What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
I really don't get the point of this screen with physical sticks in the middle. It's awful.
Graphics Horse
Member
I think some people are missing the point that being a 24:9 ratio display or therabouts.
Adding more display space around your thumbs on a Vita wouldn't be taking anything away.
Adding more display space around your thumbs on a Vita wouldn't be taking anything away.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
They dont..
Just imagine everything the camera normally would not see is now seen.. it wouldn't cause any harm.
All these mockups create a very poor image for this idea, because they take an actual screenshot and stretch it across the whole gamepad. I think the main idea is that the image that we see now on the TV screen will cover just the central area between the analogs and that will be expanded by showing a wider FOV for the whole gamepad screen.
I wonder if it'll end up looking more like the example provided in the Japantimes article: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...usiness/sharp-supply-free-form-lcds-nintendo/
Put the stucks and buttons under/at the corner of the screen, and then maybe there'd be some kind of interaction with the analog stick and the screen where they meet.
Not to mention...the rumors were talking about a donut screen with a hole in the middle. All these mockups are putting holes on the sides for the sticks. (I know about the patents but I'm enjoying imagining a donut shaped handheld console or controller.)
In conclusion. just show me the damn thing already nintendo.
Put the stucks and buttons under/at the corner of the screen, and then maybe there'd be some kind of interaction with the analog stick and the screen where they meet.
Not to mention...the rumors were talking about a donut screen with a hole in the middle. All these mockups are putting holes on the sides for the sticks. (I know about the patents but I'm enjoying imagining a donut shaped handheld console or controller.)
In conclusion. just show me the damn thing already nintendo.
DaSorcerer7
Member
The biggest news was NX 2016 launch and Zelda NX during launch window (with the possibility of it at launch).
The rest of the info is great too but not as big as that steak.
*Update on PM* I have been contacted by bishoptl! I'm going in GAF, someone give me the Mortal Kombat Shang Tsung gif ASAP!
I will see you on the otherside guys wish my source from Nintendo and myself luck
Good luck, Trev.
What do you think about this mockup?
Some things I like about this design, but i still prefer physical buttons
Looks terrible, why not make it 100% touchscreen instead?
That will be my last choise, probably will not buy it.
But if you're going to obscure that with your hands, the developer would only put less critical content there. To be a full resolution display would be wasting cost for the larger screen, coat for the shaped screen, and cost for the extra silicon required to drive those extra pixels. And for what benefit?
It can include HUD elements in the top half and touch buttons and/or hints in the lower half. plus it's nice to have a wider FOV even if part of it is covered by the thumbs.
Graphics Horse
Member
It's cheaper than a second screen, gives touchable area in a more ergonomic way.
But you're still spending processing power rendering underneath the thumbs, on what is already probably a low power console. That's like 50% more pixels to display for limited impact on gaming.
Graphics Horse
Member
How big are your thumbs?!
Your thumb should only cover the diagonal part from the stick to the edge.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Not much.
'Competitors may take our NX ideas,' says Iwata
http://www.destructoid.com/-competitors-may-take-our-nx-ideas-says-iwata-294829.phtml
I think they will wait untill the last minute if they can.
This part is important
"We can't talk about the NX," Iwata said in yesterday's investor call (according to NStyles and translated by Cheesemeister3k). "If we do, competitors may take our ideas and customers won't be surprised."
and
"The NX is new hardware, and will start from 0. "
this means also that beside sharing the same ios, there will be something special that makes the nx unique.
TheMoon
Member
Jeez, all those mock ups will look even dumber once the design is revealed. How you can seriously go with the sticks covering gameplay thing is beyond me lol. Or even no physical buttons.
Max, assume 80% of posts are BS or people being silly in here
Especially when there are question marks attached
Max, assume 80% of posts are BS or people being silly in here
Especially when there are question marks attached
They said this for wii u software too though, and there was nothing really new aside from Splatoon in the entire line up.
Hopefully that last sentence implies no Pica for new handheld.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
But if they're releasing this year (which all signs point to) they have to talk about it before E3 at least right? And we're nearly into March.
Notor!ousG
Member
Yeah, but they had a massive success with the Wii back then.
Situation is very different now. They need to change direction if they want to be succesful again.
Refreshment.01
Member
It might look silly because people are just making mock ups based on the latest comments made in the Patent thread:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1154552&page=23
But withouth posting or linking to the explanations on the logic behind the patent design. Or at the least expanding a bit.
You can read the last few pages of the thread and at least get a decent idea of how it could work. Anyways, it is the more tangible and interesting stuff we might have on the NX so far.
TheMoon
Member
They don't have to. MS revealed the X1 at the end of May. Could've just as well waited three more weeks till E3.
Wiiu idea was something unique. I believe that the wiiu tablet could be used to solve many issues. One of them will be played games like wow or RTS games like starcraft.
They just failed to use it in a proper way I think.
Also the power of the console was to weak and not unique enough to convince player. Specially because the wii didn't had a great name at the end of the cycle.
The biggest news was NX 2016 launch and Zelda NX during launch window (with the possibility of it at launch).
The rest of the info is great too but not as big as that steak.
*Update on PM* I have been contacted by bishoptl! I'm going in GAF, someone give me the Mortal Kombat Shang Tsung gif ASAP!
I will see you on the otherside guys wish my source from Nintendo and myself luck
TheMoon
Member
That was the one thing I immediately wanted. Traditional PC games were finally viable on console with this interface but traditional PC games are made by Western devs who couldn't give less of a damn about this whole Wii U thing and the rest is history.
Refreshment.01
Member
Another thing that we should consider is that people macking mock ups with the entire image plastered all over the FFD are not giving the concept proper critical taught. Much like the ones plastering 12 physical inputs over the screen in the past XD
The left and right sides of the FFD screen in the proximity of the physical inputs (2 circle pad likes in the patent) could be dedicated to virtual buttons and UI elements. It's basically what we had with the DS since 2004 but with expanded functionality, more intuitive and better use of space now.
i don't think the majority of developers are frothing their hands at the prospect of wasting rendering resources in parts of the screen that would be totally obscured or out of the player's focus.
However having the image all over the screen could have it's uses. Imagine something like an AR game (Pokemon GO). Having a device with minimal bezel that allows the FFD, the game's reality could surround the player's view and hands. It could potentially have an extra impact not other handheld device (sans an FFD) could provide.
Panajev2001a
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I would want to know if the Zelda game we have seen was ever even running on Wii U at the quality we have seen it.
Herb Alpert
Banned
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/699395076586209280
Don't know if it has been discussed here, but Blow is considering The Witness for NX.
Yay, late ports!
Don't know if it has been discussed here, but Blow is considering The Witness for NX.
Yay, late ports!
TheMoon
Member
Late ports are this gen's bread and butter so success is guaranteed! Oh wait, on Nintendo console late ports are laughed out the door, I forgot.
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