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Nintendo @ E3 - No Direct, Just Zelda Treehouse Stream
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Rösti
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Astral Dog
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Xbox One Two will steal the show
Notor!ousG
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Didn't they rent some part of the floor at E3? Are they going to fill that completely with Zelda?
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Rösti
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At minimum they have booth 4822 (100 ft x 200 ft, 20000 sq ft).
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Rösti;202734197 said:
Just got from stage 2 to stage 6 in about a minute. I'm confident we'll get Paper Mario on Wii U this year as there are seemingly no other retail first-party titles in the second half, and there's still a bit on 3DS to look forward to even for me: the definitive versions of what could arguably be called the two best Dragon Quest titles are coming.
Smiles and Tears: Earthbound Music
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Mother 3 is the bone they throw out at E3 and all the peoples forgive them for crucifying a man on a deku tree live.
"I know they should be prosecuted but what can you do? The NX requires blood. Lots of it."
"I know they should be prosecuted but what can you do? The NX requires blood. Lots of it."
Yes.
Empyrean Heaven
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I hate to be the one with the tinfoil hat, but I genuinely think Nintendo is planning a convention of their own, maybe a return of Spaceworld (but run in all three territories simultaneously) to show off their games, the theme park project, and NX. Just look at Blizzcon and D23, both huge events that completely overview their company's works, and are built for the fans, whom Nintendo seem to be catering to much more given Nintendo directs and fan-based events such as the Smash Bros. Invitational and NWC. Besides, Nintendo is always overlooked at E3 in favor of Sony and Microsoft, especially in recent years with the Wii U being a sales disaster. Hold your own event, and you have the floor to yourself.
There's just one major problem. Convention centers usually need to be booked a year+ in advance, as well as announced a year in advance as well, especially for a fan event so people can make travel plans etc. Nintendo hasn't announced anything, and would likely need the event to happen 2-3 months from now for maximum impact. Based on that alone it's probably not happening, but that's where I feel the logic is going.
There's just one major problem. Convention centers usually need to be booked a year+ in advance, as well as announced a year in advance as well, especially for a fan event so people can make travel plans etc. Nintendo hasn't announced anything, and would likely need the event to happen 2-3 months from now for maximum impact. Based on that alone it's probably not happening, but that's where I feel the logic is going.
That's a good point.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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They have to be having a direct either before E3 or not long after right? They haven't shown off pokemon yet for one thing and thats the big game left for the year far as I'm concerned.
It's been a while since they had any mindshare apart from the type of people who would buy amiibos. At this point it's better to stay home rather than go out and embarrass themselves again.
timetokill
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Pretty surprising, but Zelda is my most anticipated game so I guess I'll live. Really wonder when they're gonna blow out NX, because it's clear that they shifted resources to it a long time ago.
As many of you probably know by now, I hit "anger" and just stay angry until the game comes out... and then when it disappoints, I continue to be angry
I don't know. I'm getting the same pre-release vibes for NX that I got with Wii U. I hope they prove me wrong, but... eh.
This seems like an entirely different vibe to me. We got 18 months of underwhelming for Wii U buildup. Wii U almost felt like an afterthought at times, with incredibly sparse offerings announced for year 1, the desperate january 2013 direct, and so forth.
With NX i get the feeling like they're putting all their eggs in the NX basket for a major blowout later this year. Nintendo has never been this quiet for this long nor have I ever felt like nintendo postponed an entire year to prep for a new console. I'm excited and hopeful, for now, but mainly due to lack of info - but I attribute the lack of info to them putting all their faith in NX.
psynergylover
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nintendon't gonna nintendo't
SinCityAssassin
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As many of you probably know by now, I hit "anger" and just stay angry until the game comes out... and then when it disappoints, I continue to be angry
I don't know. I'm getting the same pre-release vibes for NX that I got with Wii U. I hope they prove me wrong, but... eh.
We already knew a lot of details about the Wii U before it was revealed at E3. Right now there's a swirling void of darkness whose form we cannot fully comprehend, always in the periphery of our vision but never visible to the naked eye. Always behind us. Always waiting.
For the chance to consume us all.
I hope Zelda NX only takes up 30 seconds of the NX reveal this year. As much as I'm looking forward to it, I'm sure I'll be sated by this E3. I really hope they don't spend E3 selling us on Zelda U, then spend a chunk of the time trying to sell us on the NX version since it's going to be a simultaneous launch for the SKUs.
The reveal event will probably just be a livestream and a press event. Don't think it's going to have much fan involvement. I'm hoping the appeal of the NX will be clear enough to not really need hands-on impressions anyway.
The reveal event will probably just be a livestream and a press event. Don't think it's going to have much fan involvement. I'm hoping the appeal of the NX will be clear enough to not really need hands-on impressions anyway.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Not showing any NX or pokemon or paper mario or anything else in fact, seems insane to me. Something must have fucked up at Nintendo.
The Abominable Snowman
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Either we're forgetting they have a 3DS or they're showing 3DS titles at a separate location?
It is a positive sign if you are in the camp who thinks they should embrace the opposite side of the gaming spectrum, far away from the realm of western AAA gaming.
Log in to your MyNintendo + Miitomo accounts and use these services as examples of where Nintendo is heading in terms of interface design, coupled with the complete lack of notable 3rd party franchises as well as low spec hardware, and tell me with a straight face that Nintendo would be anything other than embarrased at the E3 stage in comparison to the other two hardware makers who will be showing their console upgrades, VR and peak year games.
Emerson's Essentia
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Nintendo does what it wants. As long it continues to do business with the same fundamental principles it has been since it reignited the console space, they'll be fine for the considerable future.
How people fail to recognize this despite Nintendo news being a constant barrage of obtuseness for the past 20 years is beyond me.
How people fail to recognize this despite Nintendo news being a constant barrage of obtuseness for the past 20 years is beyond me.
ForsakenLotus
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You are going to need to explain this to me please.
The game sales in Japan for hardware have for a long time paled in comparison to Europe and North America, especially lately. How is focusing more on that front better than on the West? Are you suggesting you want Nintendo to downgrade their scope as a company and focus more on the Japanese/Eastern gaming scene and ultimately become even more niche than they are now?
I just honestly don't get what you are saying.
LoveCake
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I don't know what to think of Nintendo now, is the NX going to be revealed in a Direct or something on a special WiiU only app or something, can they not even show any NX games at E3 or do they really have nothing at all to show, I honestly do not understand this.
With all the social media there is now, Nintendo are simply not engaging with anyone, they do not even seem to be trying, they are missing on the worlds media being at E3, not just game press but all sorts of press, just lost for words now I really am.
With all the social media there is now, Nintendo are simply not engaging with anyone, they do not even seem to be trying, they are missing on the worlds media being at E3, not just game press but all sorts of press, just lost for words now I really am.
I think this weird quiet Nintendo is reminding me of the weird quiet Nintendo between E3 2011 and E3 2012... which led to Wii U's god awful launch.
Here's hoping the NX blowout actually IS awesome and actually IS worth the wait, but man... we all felt the exact same way waiting for E3 2012 and they gave us FUCK ALL and a Batman port.
Coming off the Wii U, I have very little faith in Nintendo.
They aren't showing anything other than Zelda.
ForsakenLotus
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Every Nintendo home console has sold fewer units than its predecessor, other than the Wii. The GameCube sold 23 million units, the Wii U will sell half of that. Traditionally the handheld market has been Nintendo's biggest seller, but the 3DS - while respectable - has shown a serious decline and it seems to suggest that while Nintendo is likely still capable of making a successful handheld, that market has significantly contracted. Add to that Nintendo's admission that their home console and handheld developer split has been converged into teams, suggesting no dedicated handheld is coming in the future, it seems even less likely Nintendo will have a handheld to potentially prop up their next home console should said console continue the trend.
Add to that the many other issues, and I don't know how people continue to be so hopelessly optimistic in regards to Nintendo as a hardware manufacturer as to be dismissive of those that are critical or even just worried for Nintendo as a console maker.
Sony, MS, EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Take-Two console games and a handful of westernized Japanese franchises like Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid encompass what is known as western AAA gaming. People tune in to E3 primarily for this type of game.
Not belonging to that category and being successful in the west aren't mutually exclusive concepts. Nintendo can potentially hit it big worldwide without a library that reminds you of either PS4 or XB1, as they did with Wii and DS with software like Brain Training and Nintendogs. Nowadays that audience resides on mobile, and Nintendo should double down on a strategy to lure them back.
TwEE-N-Toast
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Heres an exclusive look at Nintendo's upcoming E3 showing.
I just don't get it.
I just don't get it.
Papacheeks
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So you think we will get another galaxy game that will sell boat loads? DS is agree with you 100%. But wii let's be real biggest games I can tell that did well across WW were like Mario Kart, Galaxy, Wii SPorts, smash brawl, I don't know many others that were not tied to a bundle outside of galaxy that were big WW sellers.
Velcro Fly
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Also in years past they often have very little in terms of Directs after E3 until about October. They have one or two here or there for specific releases but the overarching Nintendo Direct we all know and love has not been a big thing after E3 in years past.
I think the bigger issue here is that Nintendo isn't even going to try to make a case for third parties. All those 3ds games like Dragon Quest, Sonic, Monster Hunter won't be shown off?
Really they are only going to show off their own game, and not the ones made by companies supporting their platform?
Why would third parties want to work with a company like this?
Really they are only going to show off their own game, and not the ones made by companies supporting their platform?
Why would third parties want to work with a company like this?
I'm guessing most of the third party games would be shown in their respective booths.
ForsakenLotus
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I get what you are saying, but you are suggesting that being more insular and detached from the core gamer and the mainstream media is better than having something to show during the most watched gaming conference of the year? I'd be willing to agree that E3 is more in line with the type of games and platforms that Sony and Microsoft offer, but really that is true of pretty much all of the trade shows other than TGS and maybe the PAX conventions. That doesn't mean that Nintendo should ignore them, because that makes them much less relevant than showing up and not making a huge splash.
Plus, quite frankly, if Nintendo doesn't try to cater to that audience in some way they are essentially banking on the Wii strategy of attracting casual gamers or whatever you feel is the appropriate way of describing that segment of the market, and I think that is a very risky proposition.
SinCityAssassin
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At this point, I'm past worrying about the E3 situation, it's one and done.
I'm more interested on how they'll do all that at their OWN event. Detailing a console and its launch games can't be held on its own in a Direct. It'd have to be like a Playstation conference.
I'm sure they will be, but more eyes are on Nintendo conferences(direct) and treehouse than games like Dragon Quest on it's own.
DQ gonna sell like crap again.
NHarmonic.
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Lol, they really are delusional if they think this sequel of a tired-ass franchise is enough to show on E3.
This has to be a mistake and they are now preparing Pokemon Sun and Moon to crush our wallets. This is my headcanon.
This has to be a mistake and they are now preparing Pokemon Sun and Moon to crush our wallets. This is my headcanon.
Papacheeks
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Same here, all eyes will be on them whenever they decide to host this event. They need to go balls deep on this with media, press, and they need to basically nail this now.
The thing is if they had done a soft info launch at E3, then follow that up with them being at Toyko game show, gamescom and show maybe a few exclusive trailers and clips at each show leading up to their big event, that would be ideal.
But now you have one event to get your console across to buyers, and show whats going to be there at launch.
Because Pokemon isn't a tired franchise at all.
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