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Overwatch - Review Thread
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Original? What is original in this one? It's an old formula that got extra polished.
Ah, okay.
Though I honestly could have spent 60 dollars on Team Fortress 2 and still gotten my subjective money's worth.
MrCookiepants
Member
Yes, who could forget generic cowboy with absolutely zero defining features. Oh and cyborg ninja #16825 complete with yellow glowy bits. Or that one shadowy dude who looks like he was designed by a 12 year old and has the most obvious name ever..
Just because something is colorful doesn't mean it has personality or charm.
Codiox
Member
Yeah, many people also were happy with black/white TV screens...
I like unlocks for motivate me to play a game longer. And only some skins are not what will motivate me to play a game any longer.
So today this is a feature that makes a game outstanding? That it works as intended? This shouldnt be something "nice to have". This should be a requirement.
This is something i cant answer because i never played TF2 or looked it up. It never interested me because it didnt looked appealing to me. Maybe for the same reasons.
For me, its not, and therefore i want that somebody explain this to me.
TheRedSnifit
Member
It's going to be tough to tell the difference between a McCree and that godawful Soldier 76 America skin at a distance.
Spring Drive
Banned
A game can work as intended and have sub-par UI, bad sound design or few languages. In Overwatch, even the menus look great, and there's audio for any language you can wish for. That's good polish, IMO. Things that are not essential, but nice to have. It's not just technical but artistic, too.
truestatic
Member
You and me both. Honestly though, at launch I couldn't have been less interested. I would've paid the money for Portal and Episode 2 each, though.
Are you at all getting what other people find appealing about it? I mean, obviously it's not for you, but for those of us who do enjoy it, its basis of appeal is just that it's deeply satisfying to play. it is inherently fun, absent of any unlockables or customization. Everything about it feels great.
Codiox
Member
yeah i remember her name and her abilites. thanks. i never said i hated the game, i just said i dont understand what makes this game awesome. thanks for the conversation.
Same, not sure what to do.
Codiox
Member
TBH this seems like the best answer i got until now. Thank you.
Maybe i should just try the game again to understand it. I thought the beta was enough to understand it, maybe i was wrong.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
That's my biggest issue with the game. I'm not a fan of any of the characters from an aesthetic point of view.
I think the final game has a good variety of character designs. When revealed I was not that impressed for reasons like the typical cartoon lack of visual diversity for female characters compared to male characters, but further reveals of D-VA, Zarya, and Mei helped make the female cast look more lively while Hanzo, Soldier 76, McCree, and Genji made the male side less crazy and more consistent in comparison.
Biggest problem with the character designs for me right now is that certain skins are too different from the distinct character silhouettes provided by the normal costumes. For example, Reaper's default costume has a long flowing trenchcoat while Soldier 76 has a more compact design. Their Origins skins reverse this so Soldier 76 has a long flowing coat while Reaper loses it. I feel like their backstory designs should have been designed to keep the character silhouette consistent.
TheRedSnifit
Member
Depends on whether or not you turn the sound off.
You've never heard of Evel Knievel?
Ok
some people like videogames where they give you lots of things to do and they have fun churning through all that content. some people like videogames that provide varied and interesting game mechanics for them to master. every character in overwatch is practically completely unique in the way they control and the way they are played. its not like Battlefield where each class is for the most part exactly the same with small variances.
and by polish people don't just mean bug free and functionally sound. They mean the quality of the art, the animation, all the attention to detail. The game feels like its been obsessed over by people that really care about what they are making and there are very few (if any) rough edges in the game.
if you didnt like the game in the beta, then dont buy the game. its ok to not enjoy a game
TheRedSnifit
Member
Heard of him, never saw him until now.
The skin is still bad.
He looks more like McCree without a hat than he does Soldier 76.
Yeah, this is a major problem with character skins for me. They need to preserve the original silhouette of the character or else players will have more trouble recognizing certain characters at a glance.Heard of him, never saw him until now.
The skin is still bad.
He looks more like McCree without a hat than he does Soldier 76.
MMaRsu
Banned
Seems like it, havent heard any screaming kids yet thankfully
It doesn't. It's going to take a very long time before people master most of these classes individually. Then you have to master how they work with different team set-ups. Yeah this game had depth alright, anyone saying otherwise are clueless.
Yeah, vanilla TF2 didn't have much of a depth problem and this has even more.
Except the weapons change wasn't there when TF2 launched. Each class had specific weapons and that's it. I hope Blizzard do the same with Overwatch.
Steve Youngblood
Member
You want my honest advice? Don't worry about it that much. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's going to click with you. It's ok to watch the hot new thing pass you by and not get caught up in the hype.
I picked it up just as much out of curiosity as I did out of genuine interest. I've always been open to the idea of playing something like this, but for various reasons they rarely take hold of me. It's a combination of factors that really have little to do with the games themselves. They involve the following:
1.) I'm not very good at shooters. Perhaps I just don't play them enough, but as of now this is true. So the idea of going online and being the team scrub that causes everyone else to lose and attracts grief isn't very appealing.
2.) I don't have set free time that I can dedicate to the game and find a good group of players to play with. Especially for something like an online game where pausing isn't an option, my time is basically limited to late at night after my kid goes to sleep.
3.) Because of 2, I've never really been one to like voice chat. Most of my time playing is when my wife and kid are asleep, so I try to make as little noise as possible when playing games at night.
I realize that these may have nothing to do with your complaints about your experience with the beta, but that's where I'm attacking this from. I really doubt that this game takes hold of me. However, I'm willing to give it a shot. And the reason why is just that I like the objective-based nature and variety of playstyles in the characters as a contrast to a pure deathmatch style of game that doesn't appeal to me much at all anymore. I get the feeling that while the core of the game remains the same, individual matches could be quite varied. And because of all of this, perhaps I won't feel like an asshole when I get paried up with a group and am the worst person out there.
We shall see. Just due to the nature of how I play games, I'm not expecting miracles. But this is the first team-based shooter that has really piqued my interest.
Yeah. You can turn off team voicechat and I think you can turn off the text box.
SlickShoes
Member
Heard of him, never saw him until now.
The skin is still bad.
He looks more like McCree without a hat than he does Soldier 76.
McCree's hat is probably his most defining feature, if I see the outline of a generic man character and it doesn't have a hat on, it's not McCree.
Folk wanting an explanation on why people like the game are bonkers. I don't like loads of games, I don't need someone to explain to me reasons why they like so that I can try and convince myself I also like it or double down on my hatred of it.
I hope Blizzard never add multiple weapons for each character, that's what helped ruin TF2 for me. The bloat was insane. Not knowing what type of solider or demoman you were up against was also really dumb. Sometimes keeping it simple is the best way of keeping a game fun and competitive. Valve didn't get that memo and ruined TF2 with all their additions.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
You are fucking crazy.
Its probably the biggest strentght this game has. Talking about Overwatch's character design, not blizzard in general.
TheRedSnifit
Member
I have played the game and mistaken a 76 with that skin with a McCree. It's an actual issue.
I can see that you may think it's hyperbolic, but having recognizable silhouettes is hugely important in a game where people can change characters all the time.
razgriz417
Member
If you guys play on console, I would say give it a rent at Redbox or something if you are still interested in giving it another go. I feel like alot of the enjoyment I get out of this game is from playing with friends and gaffers. Solo queuing is kind of hit or miss. If the rest of your team doesn't care about team makeup or playing the objective, it can seriously put a damper on your experience. That being said, each character is designed with specific strengths and weaknesses. So if you find your are have trouble against a specific character with your current one, dont be afraid to switch it up. It is entirely possible that who you chose (maybe Pharah in this case) is weak vs the enemy (hanzo, widowmaker, etc.).
I see the depth in not just the moment to moment gameplay, but in team composition, and learning which to switch to another character when it isn't work.
Well thankfully for you this game automatically tells you what a good team should look like, shows healers where damaged friendlies are. It also doesn't have grindy unlocks so someone who plays 10 hours a day won't have an extrinsic advantage over someone who plays an hour a day. And there are several characters who don't require precision aiming so you can play even if you suck at shooters.
They could add things like skins and after effects and silly versions of existing weapons do they won't face the problem TF2 have.
DBreakfast
Member
Not surprised by these high scores. It's simultaneously one of the most accessible FPS games I've ever played while still being one of the most interesting. Add Blizzard's level of polish and you have something really special. Anyone on the fence because they feel intimidated by multiplayer shooters should give it a chance. I don't think I've ever played an FPS before that was this beginner friendly.
The accessibility is even nice for someone like me who has been playing online shooters for years. My aim was never the best and it's definitely gotten worse over the years, so the fact that there are all these characters more focused on things like spacing and movement means I can still play effectively even with my lackluster aiming.
The accessibility is even nice for someone like me who has been playing online shooters for years. My aim was never the best and it's definitely gotten worse over the years, so the fact that there are all these characters more focused on things like spacing and movement means I can still play effectively even with my lackluster aiming.
Whiteblade999
Member
I'm surprised that the game is reviewing so highly. This is the first multplayer FPS I've played since Team Fortress 2 and absolutely love it. However, the game is still an 8 or 8.5 out of the gate to me because it feels a bit light on the content, in terms of maps.
Give it another 4 or 5 maps at minimum, maybe another game mode, and there should be enough variety to solve problems in the short term. This is what gave Team Fortress 2 a good life before Valve ruined the game with hats, and what stopped Splatoon from being a dead new IP for Nintendo.
Give it another 4 or 5 maps at minimum, maybe another game mode, and there should be enough variety to solve problems in the short term. This is what gave Team Fortress 2 a good life before Valve ruined the game with hats, and what stopped Splatoon from being a dead new IP for Nintendo.
Netherscourge
Banned
How can you not just adore her?
Because she freezes you and then shoots you in the head until you're dead?
SomeOneInaHat
Member
She says "sorry" though.
Because they are reviews. We don't know what we are actually gonna get and how it shapes the game. You can't review that, no matter how devoted you are to Blizzard.
You can review it again after things have been added. Some have done that with TF2.
she does it in a cute way tho
JetBlackPanda
Member
Ofcourse but still each class had 3 different engagement options, so you're selling it short by saying TF2 does a little less than half the classes of Overwatch so it's less complicated purely on that basis while ignoring the different playstyle and counters each of those abilities, equipments and weapons provided. 1 character in TF2 is a more complex than 1 in Overwatch even without the additions. It's the entire reason Overwatch has more characters in total.
And I can guarantee you that you won't have alternate weapons for existing characters and I doubt Blizzard will add as many as 30 more characters via updates.
Id argue you dont want THAT many minor variances. you need to be able to easily go "ok this hero is there and this is how I deal with this hero"
adding multiple very different weapons to each hero complicates that:
"ok this hero is here but what weapon do they have, how do i deal with this hero?"
Some heroes have multiple weapons, some have alt fire, they all have at least 2 abilities and an ultimate, some have mobility skills, they all have varying health, many abilities have at least two types of use to them (reaper's shadow form is useful both as a speed boost and invulnerability).
Boiling it down to just the weapons is ridiculously reductive.
Please go back and read my original comment. I never said Overwatch has more depth.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bi-Polar confirmed.
I see what you did there.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
HUH?