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[pretty done]

Nice little bit of narration by Tyrion reminding us all about that Wildfire stored under the Sept, Red Keep etc.... I'm sure that won't amount to anything next week.

:/

It's pretty lame how straight forward the show is. Nothing is a damn mystery at all.

Between that and the vast amounts of cut characters, HBO really do think TV watchers are stupid as hell. I bet the Game of Thrones remake (titled A Song of Ice and Fire) in 20 years will be amazing.

 

[Majmun]

Do we know this for sure? Could the Red Priests or whatever just be tapping into some elemental magic and just interpreting it to have some sort of meaning or purpose?

Asshai is a very mysterious place. I hope we get to hear more from it.

But I doubt it

 

[NomarTyme]

I see Sansa betraying Jon... easily. She gave no shits of Rickon's death.

 

[Yaari]

What a great episode, best one yet.

Spoiler

Is it wrong that like 1 second before it ripped Ramsay's face off I was like "aww what a cute dog".

And the best part of it, is that it probably is. Must have been fun to make it appear like a savage in the show. Haha.

 

[T-Rex.]

THAT WAS FIRE.

RIP Giant, legit MVP of the battle. Started and ended the siege in 5 seconds lmao, now that's what I call efficiency. And there was Jon with that 100 man kill streak as well. Oh and the one true onion knight still being the one true bro of whoever he is serving. So good.

Was it just me or did it seem like Sansa wasn't *that* arsed whether or not Jon survived?

 

[Jackpot]

Well it is the "narrow sea". Nobody said they crossed the Atlantic Ocean.

Actually they kinda did.

 

[Nikodemos]

Do we know this for sure? Could the Red Priests or whatever just be tapping into some elemental magic and just interpreting it to have some sort of meaning or purpose?

Unlikely. The High Priestess was quite sure she knew what Varys heard in the flames the night he was castrated. And so was Varys, despite his general scepticism w.r.t religion.

 

[UrbanRats]

Well..... Thats probably as close to a happy ending we'll get in GoT, but I'll take it.

Poor Rickon. Though he might've tried weaving a bit as he ran..... Derp.

Nice little bit of narration by Tyrion reminding us all about that Wildfire stored under the Sept, Red Keep etc.... I'm sure that won't amount to anything next week.

:/

It's pretty lame how straight forward the show is. Nothing is a damn mystery at all.

Between that and the vast amounts of cut characters, HBO really do think TV watchers are stupid as hell. I bet the Game of Thrones remake (titled A Song of Ice and Fire) in 20 years will be amazing.

Nothing wrong with some foreshadowing, and the dialog wasn't really forced in, it was actually relevant to what Dany was doing.

 

[Einchy]

Speaking of maps

The fuck is waaaayyyyy on the right? Is the Game of Thrones world actually a flat surface? Arya does say, "what's West of Westeros?" that makes me believe that the world might not actually be round or Arya is just a dummy.

 

[Jackpot]

Speaking of maps

The fuck is waaaayyyyy on the right? Is the Game of Thrones world actually a flat surface? Arya does say, "what's West of Westeros?" that makes me believe that the world might not actually be round or Arya is just a dummy.

This is the one I used.

http://quartermaester.info/

Looks to be remnants of Valyria on the right.

 

[UrbanRats]

What annoyed me was Daenerys immediately accepting the deal with Theon and his sister, without even hearing the other guy's proposal.

"he will kill you for sure if you marry him!" Ok, you don't think that party may be just a tad biased? It's like she read the script and knew they were the "good guys".

 

[sixghost]

What annoyed me was Daenerys immediately accepting the deal with Theon and his sister, without even hearing the other guy's proposal.

"he will kill you for sure if you marry him!" Ok, you don't think that party may be just a tad biased? It's like she read the script and knew they were the "good guys".

More like they were the ones with 100 ships in the harbor right now, compared to the other guy who is still in the process of building them half way across the world.

 

[Einchy]

This is the one I used.

http://quartermaester.info/

Looks to be remnants of Valyria on the right.

Here be dragons?

Oh wait, those are in Meereen...

 

[-griffy-]

Speaking of maps

The fuck is waaaayyyyy on the right? Is the Game of Thrones world actually a flat surface? Arya does say, "what's West of Westeros?" that makes me believe that the world might not actually be round or Arya is just a dummy.

Just uncharted territory I assume. They are probably at a place in their history where they don't even realize their world is round yet.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

The Lord of Light is from Sothoryos (not shown on that map) right? His fire religion is from the south. Isn't it supposed to be an ancient place where there are no rules or something?
Interesting how the fire religion is from the south, and we have white walkers and infinite winters coming from the north.

 

[Deku Tree]

Actually they kinda did.

Yeah but that whole map is a really small area. Small enough to ride across it on horses in days and weeks not months and years.

 

[Summer Haze]

I see Sansa betraying Jon... easily. She gave no shits of Rickon's death.

It's not that she gave no shits, it's that she understood his importance to Ramsey, and the realm, and thus getting him back was hopeless. She said as much to Jon. And I imagine the shit she's went through has given her quite a thick skin, to say the least, which I guess could come across as her not caring to some.

THAT WAS FIRE.

RIP Giant, legit MVP of the battle. Started and ended the siege in 5 seconds lmao, now that's what I call efficiency. And there was Jon with that 100 man kill streak as well. Oh and the one true onion knight still being the one true bro of whoever he is serving. So good.

Was it just me or did it seem like Sansa wasn't *that* arsed whether or not Jon survived?

If only he'd used some of that efficiency in dealing with that shield wall. I mean, I know why he didn't but it was still lame seeing him go to waste like that.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I've always assumed that were only dealing with the known world, and that there is an insane amount of uncharted territory with primitive humans mucking about

 

[Timbuktu]

Speaking of maps

The fuck is waaaayyyyy on the right? Is the Game of Thrones world actually a flat surface? Arya does say, "what's West of Westeros?" that makes me believe that the world might not actually be round or Arya is just a dummy.

Is Westeros was medieval England, it would be awesome if we could see GoT's equivalent of China. Impossible of course, but a more advance civilisation in the other side would be pretty cool.

 

[ASIS]

Yeah but that whole map is a really small area. Small enough to ride across it on horses in days and weeks not months and years.

Cersei tells Robert "We've bee riding for months" in the very first episode of the show though.

 

[NomarTyme]

It's not that she gave no shits, it's that she understood his importance to Ramsey, and the realm, and thus getting him back was hopeless. She said as much to Jon. And I imagine the shit she's went through has given her quite a thick skin, to say the least, which I guess could come across as her not caring to some.

Yeah, I agree. She gone through a lot and she is the coldest of the Starks, right ahead Arya.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

I remember reading Sothoryos was much larger than the rest of those continents as well.

 

[Tonky]

Can someone please explain to me what was happening at towards the end of the fight (before the Knights of the Vale came) where everyone was huddled really close to each other and Tormund was kicking the shit out of Umber? Why were they all just standing next to each other and why weren't the Boltons moving in?

 

[Crispy75]

This is the one I used.

http://quartermaester.info/

Looks to be remnants of Valyria on the right.

Valyria is the group of islands and peninsulas that looks a bit like a paw print, hanging down off the middle of Essos.

Ashai (where the dragon eggs came from) is in the far East. "Savages" to the south. The whole world is not yet explored by the civilizations of Westeros and Essos.

 

[Crispy75]

Can someone please explain to me what was happening at towards the end of the fight (before the Knights of the Vale came) where everyone was huddled really close to each other and Tormund was kicking the shit out of Umber? Why were they all just standing next to each other and why weren't the Boltons moving in?

Ramsay's just being horrible. The Bolton men were moving in, just slowly and steadily on three sides (with the man hill forming the fourth wall). Death by crushing and picking off the ones around the edge.

 

[Einchy]

Can someone please explain to me what was happening at towards the end of the fight (before the Knights of the Vale came) where everyone was huddled really close to each other and Tormund was kicking the shit out of Umber? Why were they all just standing next to each other and why weren't the Boltons moving in?

The Bolton forces surrounded everyone with their shield wall from the front, leaving the wall of bodies behind Jon's forces. When Tormund tried to escape by climbing the bodies, he was met by the Umbers flanking them all by climbing the bodies, this way they were fucked from the front, sides and back.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Was Tormund trying to get his free folk to attack the hill instead or did he panic?

A bit of panic, and a bit of knowing they were about to be flanked.

 

[pringles]

Omg.. that may have been the greatest 60 minutes in television history.

Just beyond amazed at how they pulled everything off so flawlessly that even though most of it was 'predictable' it was still nailbiting and breathtakingly suspenseful.

 

[Tonky]

Ramsay's just being horrible. The Bolton men were moving in, just slowly and steadily on three sides (with the man hill forming the fourth wall). Death by crushing and picking off the ones around the edge.

The Bolton forces surrounded everyone with their shield wall from the front, leaving the wall of bodies behind Jon's forces. When Tormund tried to escape by climbing the bodies, he was meet by the Umbers flanking them all by climbing the bodies, this way they were fucked from the front, sides and back.

Oh my god Jon would have died again

 

[More_Badass]

The Lord of Light exists. Not really plot armour.

If anything, it's in-universe plot armor that doesn't just work for Jon. Ie the Brotherhood guy who could be resurrected.

 

[More_Badass]

Speaking of maps

The fuck is waaaayyyyy on the right? Is the Game of Thrones world actually a flat surface? Arya does say, "what's West of Westeros?" that makes me believe that the world might not actually be round or Arya is just a dummy.

I assume it's like the old maps where people didn't realize the Americas existed. It's just a map of the known world. The planet is a lot bigger than just Westeros and the other continents we've seen

 

[Symphonia]

Why didn't he strafe?

 

[sixghost]

I think you guys are grasping and straws with those examples. If you reach down in the line of causation deep enough every act in this show ever eventually yields unfavorable results. It's like blaming Ned for Sansa's rape because he took her to KL which eventually led to her ending up with Ramsay.

One of the longest running threads on the show has been that Cersei is not nearly as clever as she believes. I don't really know how you could miss that.

 

[Tonky]

Why didn't he strafe?

It didn't matter. As soon as Ramsay killed Rickon he unleashed a swarm of arrows in the same area. He was just trying to get Jon as close to his cavalry as possible. If Rickon pulled the serpentine maneuver he would've killed both of them.

 

[Lorcain]

As the battle continued, Ramsey was inadvertently killing his own. Their forces were being depleted. As were John's.

I enjoyed your summary. This part here though, Ramsey intentionally killed his own men. It was part of his battle strategy, and illustrated how far he was willing to go to win. It's hard to defeat someone who has such low regard for their own people.

 

[Shanlei91]

Huge twist - GRRM believes the earth is flat.

This past episode had such a happy ending - it didn't feel like GoT haha. This whole season hasn't actually. The pacing is much quicker, things are getting revealed and people are getting what's coming to them. I kind of wish this was always what the show was like.

 

[Einchy]

Since we brought up maps, I found a YouTube video that goes over all the lands, which I assume is brought up in the books but will never be talked about in the show. Anyway, some of the other lands sound crazy interesting and if GRRM could write faster, I'm sure he could write some amazing stories in those lands thst almost feel like a brand new series.

 

[Tonky]

I have a strange feeling that Sansa was waiting for Jon to die to bring in the Knights of the Vale. It would have been perfect for her, with Jon and Rickon dead, Winterfell is hers. It almost felt like she was disappointed when she saw Jon still standing.

 

[Curufinwe]

That's very silly. He is no threat to her and the best ally she has.

One of the longest running threads on the show has been that Cersei is not nearly as clever as she believes. I don't really know how you could miss that.

Tywin even says it explicitly at one point.

 

[JuanLatino]

im scared for Melisandre now - plz dont send her away jon.
You need a healer in your team

 

[More_Badass]

Huge twist - GRRM believes the earth is flat.

This past episode had such a happy ending - it didn't feel like GoT haha. This whole season hasn't actually. The pacing is much quicker, things are getting revealed and people are getting what's coming to them. I kind of wish this was always what the show was like.

I wouldn't call it a happy ending. It was certainly a net positive for the Starks and the North, and it was a satisfying comeuppance for Ramsey, but at the cost of thousands of men and Sansa becoming more and more like the ruthless manipulators that rule over in King's Landing

 

[poppabk]

Huge twist - GRRM believes the earth is flat.

This past episode had such a happy ending - it didn't feel like GoT haha. This whole season hasn't actually. The pacing is much quicker, things are getting revealed and people are getting what's coming to them. I kind of wish this was always what the show was like.

Plus instead of characters just disappearing, we have had multiple long lost characters reappear.
Plus little finger gaining power in the north is not likely to be a wholly positive thing.

 

[Einchy]

im scared for Melisandre now - plz dont send her away jon.
You need a healer in your team

Jon is a Blood Death Knight, he doesn't know what a healer is.

 

[Dead to Rights]

I see Sansa betraying Jon... easily. She gave no shits of Rickon's death.

Bahahaha I loved it!

Sansa: Jon we need to take back Winterfell!
Jon: I don't know
Sansa: It's our home!
Jon: Eh?
Sansa: He has our brother!
Jon: Right!

Before battle

Sansa: Don't attack!
Jon: But... but Rickon!
Sansa: Fuck him he's as good as dead!

lol

 

[Tonky]

Thoros can take Melisandre's place.

 

[JuanLatino]

Jon is a Blood Death Knight, he doesn't know what a healer is.

but he know whats phoenix down is - only Melisandre has it

 

[Symphonia]

I have a strange feeling that Sansa was waiting for Jon to die to bring in the Knights of the Vale. It would have been perfect for her, with Jon and Rickon dead, Winterfell is hers. It almost felt like she was disappointed when she saw Jon still standing.

Winterfell would be hers, regardless of whether Jon died in battle or not. She's a Stark, he's a Snow. Winterfell is hers by name.

 

[brawly]

Yo. I'm shocked. This battle might be the best GoT thing yet. Amazing, holy shit.

That scene where Jon is buried on ground was so intense. I felt claustrophobic watching that.

 

[Tonky]

Winterfell would be hers, regardless of whether Jon died in battle or not. She's a Stark, he's a Snow. Winterfell is hers by name.

He could easily be legitimized. Then his claim would trump hers.

 

[Einchy]

He could easily be legitimized. Then his claim would trump hers.

I believe only Tommen could legitimize him.