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So how is the Shinobido series compared to Tenchu? I wanna be NEENJA

ScOULaris

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The Shinobido series is one that for a long time was unavailable to North American gamers. The PS2 releases only ever hit shelves in Europe and Japan, but around the time of the Vita launch Shinobido 2 released in the U.S. thanks to Namco Bandai. Unfortunately Namco's licensing for the game must have expired because the game was de-listed without warning from PSN earlier this year, so now I am contemplating whether or not it's worth me tracking down a physical copy of the game.

Basically, I'm in a Tenchu kind of mood. Fully 3D stealth games in which you stalk around feudal Japan as a ninja and assassinate corrupt Samurai are all too rare in this world, and Shinobido looks to be the closest thing to Tenchu that I can play on modern systems. I'm assuming that some of the original developers of the Tenchu series worked on the Shinobido games because they share a lot of design commonalities, right down to that trademark jank/lack of polish.

Is Shinobido 2 a worthwhile physical purchase if I generally try to keep all of my Vita catalog digital? Will it give me that Tenchu experience that I'm currently craving?

If not, are there any other alternatives on Vita, PS4, or PC that I could check out? Mark of the Ninja was excellent, but I'd love to slash some throats in 3D.

I think this video of a cluelessly racist blonde lady sums up my desires nicely.
 

takoyaki

Member
I played both Shinobido games and thought they were serviceable, but not as good as the Tenchu series. If you're limited to PS4/Vita/PC, Shinobido 2 is probably the closest to Tenchu you'll get right now. There's also the upcoming Twin Shadows/Aragami.

You could also try Mark of Kri (PS2 classic on PS4); it won’t let you play as a NEENJA (thanks for the laugh, that song was something else), but the stealth gameplay is great and always reminded me a bit of classic Tenchu.
 
Personally I absolutely loved Shinobido 2. The AI is braindead, yet bloody relentless. It lead to some really tense hide 'n seek situations.

Also you can play as a bear.
 

dallow_bg

nods at old men
The saddest thing about the game being de-listed is the extra DLC missions are now forever lost.
Worth playing though, it's not expensive.
 

Terra_Ex

Member
Can't comment on Shinobido 2 since sadly it was Vita only, but since you said series, I can give a run down on the first game.

For me, the first game was superior to Tenchu, if you can imagine blending Way of the Samurai's staple features with Tenchu's ninja formula and you basically get Shinobido. To progress the story you have to do a certain amount of missions for one of three factions, only each of these factions has sort of an approval bar toward the player - do more missions for a faction, they'll like you more, offer more money, better jobs, easier access to their homebase, etc. On the flipside, if you're witnessed working against a given lord, that lord isn't going to be too happy with you and there will be consequences in the form of reprisals and refusal to offer you missions. The ultimate goal of the game is to have one of these factions take power, although without spoling anything, I'll simply say there are other possible endings available.

For a given mission (which come in many varities), in addition to the enemy faction that you'll be working against, there *may* be a enemy ninja faction (1 of 3) that is hired on to help protect your enemies (this only happens after a certain story event and is meant to mix things up by way of random modifiers) - this means more, tougher enemies, who will call for help and will likewise bear grudges. To further mix it up, the ninja faction leaders may or may not be present on a given mission and their presence can seriously impede your plans. If anyone spots you on a mission and lives to tell the tale, that faction's lord will hear about it and will obviously distrust you. Keep on down that road and they may attack your hideout and stop offering you the better missions, so managing witnesses is important. In essence you get a sort of emergent narrative quality to the game that runs concurrent with the main thread, it's pretty neat, especially given that if you're skilled enough (don't get spotted) you can work against a faction and they'll never know it was you, this can lead to some really satisfying double crossing and let's say may lead to interesting story developments.

Gameplay and mechanics wise, again it's superior to Tenchu, the running felt more fluid and ninja-like, the levels are more open giving your grapple genuine use. The combat and assassinations are satisfying, even moreso as new enemy types get added to the mix and you have to adapt your strategy prior to and during a mission. Imagine your mission is to intercept say a convoy of grain and the proverbial fly in the ointment is the opposing faction has hired a ninja faction to stop you. There's nothing more satisfying that dropping some mines and bombs along the faction's route to tip the odds in your favour when it's time to strike. On that subject, you have a neat alchemy system that you can exploit at your hideout to make your own custom potions and bombs (it can kind of be broken in a similar way to say Oblivion's custom magic, but that's half the fun tbh) that can elicit a variety of effects in enemies. Oh yeah, your hideout is customisable too, so you can essentially rig the surrounding environment with traps (if you've ever played any of the Deception games, it has a passing similarity to that I suppose).

If you've played Way of the Samurai, Shinobido can be likened to being the ninja version of that, same developer and all. Like WotS, it's criminally unknown and underrated and its very difficult to succinctly capture everything that makes it such a great ninja game, so my best advice is to try it, there's a lot more depth and more going on in general in Shinobido compared to Tenchu that defies direct comparison imo, but Shinobido is a game I returned to many times over, the Tenchu's not so much.
 

ScOULaris

Member
^^

Wow. Great write-up. As someone who loved Way of the Samurai, I think you've sold me on picking up Shinobido 2. That sounds right up my alley.
 

ScOULaris

Member
Watching this video sold me even more, so I went out and picked up the game used at GameStop on my lunch break. Can't wait to dive into it.

I love the structure of taking odd assassination/theft jobs from several different lords as you see fit, and the crafting stuff looks interesting as well. Man I wish we could get a sequel to this on PS4 or PC.
 
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