I don't if they'd do it this way, but they have form for this kind of thing. Going back a long way (DOS ain't done 'til Lotus won't run) or the new Windows 10 warning that pops up if you're using Chrome or Firefox to say they're power inefficient and you should use Edge:
My picture was just in good fun. I think he's exaggerating slightly how easy or able Microsoft will be able to implement such a strategy though. They have indeed tried before but when it comes to gaming they will be getting shut down. I believe the industry and gamers would be linux bound before that. Steam for instance is far too entrenched at this point for it to move the needle more than just a bit over the next decade.
You thought absolutely wrong going by this thread.I thought it was common knowledge that MS was trying to lock down the PC ecosystem with Windows 10(and Windows 10 store) and attempting to curtail their competitors content? Was that big or controversial new news?
So you seriously think they will botch win32 compatibility and destroy their biggest revenue stream? Or what are they going to do to make steam work worse?
yes. I understand that UWA may be inefficient for gaming but it goes beyond gaming, productivity and cloud based apps could benefit greatly from the UWA proposal. Personally I don't se why would MS want to risk game developers moving into another OS for gaming software development when it is already Windows centric. Keeping those game developers using Windows is far more important than want they may earn with a store front.The day UWA replace win32, is because UWA will be superior then, not some scummy tactic.
PC gamers is way to smart to let that happen.
Steam for instance is far too entrenched at this point for it to move the needle more than just a bit over the next decade.
So you seriously think they will botch win32 compatibility and destroy their biggest revenue stream? Or what are they going to do to make steam work worse?
Like... WHY would they even want to do that?
they might want to get rid of apple and google tooIf MS had to choose to eliminate one company from existence, they will choose Steam over Sony.
Steam is twisting their arm in the PC space. So this news is not surprising at all.
I mean, they've done it before. Anyone who isn't at least a little wary hasn't been paying attention.Gemüsepizza;211407204 said:This is just getting sad, Jesus Christ. How can anyone honestly believe that the industry, customers and organisations like the EU will just silently watch Microsoft doing stuff like this. Hint: They won't. And Microsoft knows this. This is conspiracy level stuff.
That's just PC gaming. You don't need the boogie man rummaging about in your code to have shit break.
The Steam client is already mediocre on Windows and is straight up garbage on OS X.
Microsoft don't need to lift a finger to make Steam look bad.
If steam breaks, how would you know if its win10 or just valve being valve ?
ms must be starting with your machine firstI'd rather it run than waste time trying to convince Windows it's not a virus. It was fine before the last update.
Yeah, alot has changed since the 1990's. Let alone the damage this would cause with Valve which could lead to no future Valve game's on the Xbox platform and all other legal ramifications.Hilarious that people are calling this a conspiracy theory given MSs history.
Since the moment MS decided to create his App Store their biggest opponent has been Steam so it's no surprising they have a strategy in place to gain market share.
Hell, Gaben has been afraid of this since Windows 8 and that's where Steam OS came from.
He is just speaking about what MS could set out to do based on their proven track record. How is this even newsworthy?
Yep. Since then we've experienced several other initiatives by MS that aimed at limiting consumer choice and freedom in order to strengthen their hold on key markets. DRM for the Bone being the most recent.Yeah, alot has changed since the 1990's.
Is Phil still good friends with Tim?
Yeah, alot has changed since the 1990's. Let alone the damage this would cause with Valve which could lead to no future Valve game's on the Xbox platform and all other legal ramifications.
That's exactly what they did to their previous competitors in other areas.
There's a big difference between being wary based on past history (or even just aware of what a huge dominant company can do to an industry, which is smart!) and what Sweeney is saying here. He's directly stating that Microsoft is going to break Steam in the next five years, that it is going to happen and in fact is already happening. He doesn't seem to offer any evidence for this, and while I want to give him the benefit of the doubt this is a major accusation of probably criminal behavior he's aimed at a business competitor. Just throwing that out there without any supporting evidence comes across as paranoid at best.
Coming off his recent, somewhat misleading UWP claims doesn't help.
I want to assume Sweeney is saying things like this as a defensive measure, that by pushing out an unlikely worst-case scenario as the guaranteed future he's trying to ensure it can't happen, and that he knows how paranoid and frankly silly a lot of it actually is. But it still sounds pretty damn silly.
On the surface this seems implausible, unlikely, and paranoid. But then you think about it a bit, and... it still seems implausible, unlikely, and paranoid. Then you start reading today's news, and you start to think... which is more outragous? A claim that MS is going to try and tank a competitor's platform by abusing their monopoly power in consumer PCs, or the possibility that Russia is in fact using Wikileaks as a public platform to sabotage the US presidential election via information warfare? What a day.