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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept

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maxcriden

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I'm going to quote this again so that people realize this isn't launching with the X1 in any capacity:

They are overclocking and actively cooling the X1 beyond stock parameters and passive cooling. That means it well above its marked performance threshold, so throwing around performance numbers for the thing is at this point entirely meaningless.

Whatever is in the NX, its not going to be an overclocked chip with active cooling.

This is highly indicative (along with the sudden 2016 to 2017 delay) of a 16nm custom or X2 chip rather than the current X1.

Glad you reposted this, Vena. I missed it the first time. Thank you.
 
This thread is nuts. I hope we're finally getting real rumors, though we're so close to a reveal I wouldn't even mind :p

I am very excited by the prospect of this rumor. This could be a really great console. Some of the hate is hilarious, but alas, wouldn't be a Nintendo thread without it
 

Hakai

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I think there will be more than one form factor and this is just one of them. I'm still not thinking this as a hybrid, maybe it is just the portable ver. that you can play on TV.

But, for now I will consider this is it so I will not be disappointed in the future.
 
Splatoon 2 in bed

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npm0925

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The NX is aimed at the same people who will be buying the upcoming NES reboot. Price it low enough to be an impulse purchase. Size it small enough to fit in any home. Make the controller as unintimidating as possible. Have it play games and nothing else. There is a market for such a device; there isn't one for another full fledged $400 console (as evidenced by the failure of the Xbox One and Wii U).
 

psyfi

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I don't wanna speak ill but I'll have to wait and see exactly what this is. Just not buying into the idea of this hybrid console. Nintendo with one of its gimmicks again.
Try thinking of it as just a really powerful, adaptable handheld. I'm willing to bet
(not a ban bet though, lol)
that there's gonna be a Nintendo home console meant to compete with the PS5 & New Xbox in a few years, and that it will be designed to interface with the NX handheld, and perhaps even be branded as a "home NX".

btw... Just Dance was announced at E3 for NX... do you think the NX will have wiimote compatibility or the controllers will have motion sensors?
Yeah, I was thinking about this too, and I think the controllers will have motion sensors.
 

btrboyev

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That was a poor port. The Tegra X1 is a 512GFlop GPU with relatively a modern CPU. It's easily faster than a wii u which can only do 176GFlops and is a much older architecture. This could also be using a hypothetical tegra x2 with a much more efficient pascal gpu and a better cpu.

Port blaming again? It's still a mobile cpu/gpu. It's limited by it's power throughput. It has to run on batteries without killing it in minutes. You are not going to output super graphics on a battery unless you want like an hour of battery life.
 
Game design wise, Nintendo was already moving in a more console like direction on 3DS with stuff like Luigi's mansion 2, 3D land, and smash 4. I wouldn't be surprised if they continue that trend even more with NX.
 

fernoca

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btw... Just Dance was announced at E3 for NX... do you think the NX will have wiimote compatibility or the controllers will have motion sensors?
Latest Just Dance games allow people to use their cellphones as controller.

So mandatory controllers are no longer recquired.
 

Mihos

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Look around you next time you're in public and try to spot the number of people actually using physical media with their portable devices. I'll be over here waiting.

How many console games are on those phones? This isn't strictly a portable device, unless you expect the NX to have a hard drive in it. Even if you do, ask the digital only crowd how that 500mb hard drive in their console is holding up to their digital library. Even my WiiU has a USB drive plugged in right now, I don't buy hardly anything digital.
 

border

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So it's a handheld with a TV-out? That's their only hook?

It seems like they are trying to salvage their diminishing handheld market by tethering their next system to the console market.

"We know that everyone would rather just play games on their phone, but our new handheld let's you play at home on your TV too!"
 

Shin-chan

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I can't wait to play the fuck out of whatever Atlus makes for this.

No BC is incredibly disappointing though. Even just digitally due to no disc drive would be better than nothing.
 

atbigelow

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I'm not intrigued by what (if anything) the hardware will do when docked. I think Nintendo knows 1080p is the de facto TV resolution right now and need to output at that.

I wonder if part of the tech design NVidia did made sure this thing could "transform" into higher power modes when docked. Power consumption is not a factor in docked mode, but cooling definitely is.

There's also the mindset of: would they even waste that R&D budget to make a system that can do this?
 
I'm personally super excited about the possibilities of this. I play my N3DS far more than my consoles, so the thought of a Nintendo portable that has some decent power that can also be connected to the TV when I want to sounds great to me.
 

dcx4610

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I think it will flop. Kids end people like their phones and tablets these days. No one is going to want to carry around another device with them. Just like most people don't carry around iPods along with their iPhone, I can't see people with a NX in their pocket.

It sounds like it will barely be as powerful as the Wii U. If that's the case, it will suffer the same fate. People don't want weak hardware. Unless the NX has a surprise, I don't think just being Nintendo is enough. It will sell on par with the Wii U.
 
I think there will be more than one form factor and this is just one of them. I'm still not thinking this as a hybrid, maybe it is just the portable ver. that you can play on TV.

But, for now I will consider this is it so I will not be disappointed in the future.

There's nothing stopping them releasing a home system at a later date with full compatibility, but I just don't see a pressing need for it to be next year.
 

Neiteio

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Cartridges in 2016 lol
SD cards can go up to like 2TB now. No optical drive reduces cost and risk of mechanical failure. And read speeds can be faster from a card. Reduced need to install stuff to an HDD, as well. It's a net gain on every front except the cost of the card itself, but even that could be mitigated by buying in bulk.
 

ElCidTmax

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I can't see this thing taking off vs. the Wii U. It's still underpowered, and while we have yet to see the controllers, I can't see them having the ergonomics of the dual shock or xbox controllers. This is very much a handheld games machine, and phones and tablets have already crushed that market.

I would almost have preferred a 3DS2 with excellent screens and moar power, and just forget the living room.
 

Neoxon

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Cartridges in 2016 lol
Seeing as this thing has to be portable, doing discs would be pretty dumb (see the PSP). Plus cartridge storage capacities have caught up with discs & have faster read speeds compared to discs, so there definitely are benefits.
 

BriGuy

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Sounds kind of dumb, but I'm on board just because it's Nintendo. The older I get, the more indispensable their games become to me.
 
Will this mean there will be more limited edition consoles? I like the variety that the 3DS has. My Pokemon 20th Anniversary is pretty sweet, even tho it's just plate covers.
 
compare all the handheld nintendo games in a franchise to their console counterpart and tell me that they aren't vastly different, deeper and more fulfilling experiences on the console

But now they will be the same thing and it is more powerful than the Wii U, I don't see the problem.
 

Oersted

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I think it will flop. Kids end people like their phones and tablets these days. No one is going to want to carry around another device with them. Just like most people don't carry around iPods along with their iPhone, I can't see people with a NX in their pocket.

It sounds like it will barely be as powerful as the Wii U. If that's the case, it will suffer the same fate. People don't want weak hardware. Unless the NX has a surprise, I don't think just being Nintendo is enough. It will sell on par with the Wii U.

Barely as powerful. How do you read exactly?
 
hey guys i said a thing and this unofficial info says the thing i said is true. even though its a rumor i fucking called it, i am a gaming nostradamus

and some people calling out others and telling people to eat crow, what crow is there to eat from unofficial info

if info turns to be true, i wont get it based on no bc. would break my heartpiece

nintendo just went down the wrong pipe.
 

Fou-Lu

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Eurogamer is reputable, but somehow I just can't believe this. Guess we'll see. As long as it somehow is more powerful than the Wii U I suppose I'll be fine with it.
 

Guevara

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I can't see this thing taking off vs. the Wii U. It's still underpowered, and while we have yet to see the controllers, I can't see them having the ergonomics of the dual shock or xbox controllers. This is very much a handheld games machine, and phones and tablets have already crushed that market.

I would almost have preferred a 3DS2 with excellent screens and moar power, and just forget the living room.

Yeah honestly it sounds like a lousy home console.

Good point about the controller.
 
No backwards compatibility is a bummer. Unavoidable with the new cart setup I suppose but still. I was hoping to jump onto the new generation and still play all the WiiU games I missed. Gonna be a lotta up ports though, right?
 
compare all the handheld nintendo games in a franchise to their console counterpart and tell me that they aren't vastly different, deeper and more fulfilling experiences on the console

Nah. I think Kid Icarus is a better game than most of Nintendo's output last gen. I think Splatoon could have also been a handheld game. I think Smash was a direct calling out of how they wanted to merge the two.

3D Land and 3D World are not that different. The handheld ACs are better experiences than the console ones. They deliberately ported Wii games to the 3DS like Donkey Kong and Xenoblade, the latter being one of their biggest "deeper and fulfilling experiences" in console development.

I think you're jerking your knee pretty hard here.
 

SOR5

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compare all the handheld nintendo games in a franchise to their console counterpart and tell me that they aren't vastly different, deeper and more fulfilling experiences on the console

The console and portable experience is fusing together now though
 
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