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Some slight changes made to Luna's face in newer builds of FFXV

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The reddish tint to her face before kinda gave her life. Now she looks sickly to me.
That's more of a technical reason than an artistic one. The skin shaders aren't as good as they were in the build of that Dawn Trailer.
 

OrionX

Member
There is a certain ideal that the 'good princess' has to fit into, and Luna's been created to fit that ideal. I'd peg her as more of a Lacus Clyne, who was basically a writer self-insert Mary Sue, except in the case of Luna it would be more of the building of a perfect waifu.

At the moment Luna seems more similar to Rosa to me. Her story revolved completely around Cecil, and she was kinda the epitome of the "pure, good-hearted, stand-by-your-man" type from what I can remember.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Relena Peacecraft was not very effective either.

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Don't you insult the queen.

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As for Lacus....i thought Lacus was decent to a point, but i'd never want Luna to be a mary sue like her. Even Luna has gotten seriously injured and seen dark times and had her personality change because of that, that also compares favorably with her new design. While Lacus became more serious to a point, she still generally only sang songs to fix problems. Not to take her Captaining skills away from her and her part during the war.
 
Figured this is as good a place as any to ask:

I haven't been following the game much but I'd like to know a few things:

Is there an edition of Kingsglaive that comes with dlc for XV?

Is there an edition of XV that comes with the movie?
 

addik

Member
What tropes are you referring to?

A lot of the Final Fantasy main heroines have been primarily white magic users and have used a staff, or any other variants of a wand, as a weapon. As such, they tend to be physically weak and are used in gameplay (or in some cases in the narrative) simply to support the main male hero and his ambitions. A lot of these heroines tend to be very feminine in how they move, while physically more-abled female side-kicks tend to be butch, doting, or quiet (think Lightning, who is not a sidekick, Ashe, Freya). Peppy and feminine side-kicks tended to be a ditz as well (think Rikku, Selphie, and even Yuffie)

Stella stands out initially since while she uses magic (thanks to a near-death experience, similar to Noctis), her main weapon is a fleuret (sword, not a variant of a wand). Gameplay-wise, it would have been interesting to see how they represent fencing in-game (whether or not we get to control her, or simpy fight against her). Having a fencing weapon is also pretty loaded choice, as the sport was popularized by (male) aristocrats, so that MIGHT show Stella's aristocratic (and most likely, educated) background.

Despite that, the party scene shows that while she is diplomatic when it comes to addressing Noctis, she is still very feminine with her body language (which oddly, a lot of people take against her). So already, she betrays a lot of the peppy-but-ditzy or strong-but-butch archetypes Final Fantasy has for its female side-kicks. As a heroine, she also occupies a different narrative space as other FF heroines. She is always shown in white to contrast Noctis' black, and we know eventually that she and Noctis had to fight eventually. A heroine with a different and opposing goal with the hero would have been such an interesting and different concept to play around with (again, execution is another matter, but that is all moot at this point). IIRC, people initially thought she was one of the main villains in FFV13 when she was revealed during the closed mega theater trailers. People were shocked when Nomura revealed that she was supposed to be Versus' heroine.

So when people say that they are sad that the Stella vs Noctis scene was lost, they weren't sad simply because the scene cut was cool. It was so much more than that.

Again, that does not show that Stella is a strong character, but merely that she stands out and is conceptually different. I think that people who say that Stella is a strong character actually mean that she is just an intriguing concept of a character, and I thought it showed. People weren't just blindly believing Nomura when he said that "Stella would stand out," people already saw that. Compare this to Tabata, who initially said that Luna was a strong character and that we should believe him, when all we've seen (at that point) was Luna sitting down waiting for Noctis to come.

I'm not throwing Luna under the bus here. I think all Stella fans should be openminded to her character, but when subsequent appearances fail to impress (including a movie), it should be understood why Stella fans are upset. But with the game two months away, I can't wait to know more about Luna.

This post has gone on too long, lol. I might have veered offtopic, but I thought I just wanted to give my 2 cents on this whole Luna vs Stella thing.
 

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
An user on youtube just made a direct comparison video of the changes in the scenes shown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml_Tp_OfaxE
the new one is honestly so much more fitting. I'm surprised someone doesn't like it this way. I mean considering all the other characters, the universe and heavy story they're aiming for.
 
I noticed the same happened with Iris, her eyes aren't as big in the newer build when compared with the August footage, and she has less makeup around her eyes.
 
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