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Popular FGC streamer MAXIMILIAN accidentally says n*gger on stream; asses are shown
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Deleted member 325805
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Yep, exactly this. Lets try and make a big deal out of it, though.
Twenty7KVN
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Bish is going to need a bigger ban hammer for this thread.
This is my post right there. This guy said it the way I tried saying it.
Infinite_Daremo
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Would have probably never heard of this game if not for this thread. Looks very good. Gonna head to the key begging thread and read some impressions.
Ridiculous thread. He said the word by accident, meaning no offense to anyone. I can't believe there are people so oversensitive they're willing to shame him for a slip of the tongue. On the other side though some of the responses show a total lack of care or civility.
Can't freakin' humanity for once stand on a middle ground in these matters?
Of course people shouldn't go throwing around racial slurs, that said if someone happens to misspeak can we not hang him for it. Pleeeeease?
What?
O_O
The voice of sanity.
Can't freakin' humanity for once stand on a middle ground in these matters?
Of course people shouldn't go throwing around racial slurs, that said if someone happens to misspeak can we not hang him for it. Pleeeeease?
What?
O_O
The voice of sanity.
Gordon Shumway
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I don't know where you live, but in the modern world nigger doesn't even exist anymore. Except for "in the hoods" or spoken out by really racist trailer trash people, the word doesn't hold up in the modern society anymore.
And yes, newsflash, it's used by black people to get offended. It's called the black card, the race card, whatever you want to call it.
GET OVER THE WORD and live your life already.
Yeah considering the context he used it in, he wasn't trying to make it a racial slur!
This is what starts the most confusion, because you could walk past a group of young minorities and every other word is Nigga this or nigga that...
So we usually say that the context a word is used in, should determine whether it's offensive or not...
This is what starts the most confusion, because you could walk past a group of young minorities and every other word is Nigga this or nigga that...
So we usually say that the context a word is used in, should determine whether it's offensive or not...
ldcommando
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Max has a gaf account, so looking at some of the replies in this thread I´m sure he is anxious to come here and explain himself. Let´s just wait.
any minute now...
any minute now...
This thread turned into a fun racist lure, though. Plenty of stuff in here is worse than Max's original slip of the tongue.
That doesn't mean intent doesn't matter. In context it's quite clear that it was completely accidental. Yes, the effect matters and yes, he should apologize, but to imply that intent is trivial is to ignore all context of this situation, which is completely fucking ignorant. Tunnel vision is not something that should be championed when it comes to situations involving race
I think this comment is worse that the person you're replying to. Not sure how you managed to do so.
Glass Rebel
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No, I believe that the FGC is one place where you have people show up like this to defend "one of their own" and in turn spout racist stuff like in this thread. I didn't say anything about the FGC being the only place where this happens, I didn't say anything about the FGC being bigoted in general or whatever you or Chindogg are trying to read into my post. It was an exaggerated response to an exaggerated question.
SomedayTheFire
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HOLY SHIT. the responses just keep getting worse.
Jawbreaker
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Like, I'm sure a lot of people think it's an unfortunate slip of the tongue, and he just needs to apologize for the slip-up, so the rush to preemptively try to strike down any potential dissenting views was unnecessary. Even the OP leaves interpretation up for discussion. I don't think they were saying the guy needs to get raked over the coals. Some of the replies here are much worse.
I was actually not planning on participating in the thread until I saw all those despicable replies. GAF really disappoints me sometimes.
AbandonedTrolley
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wtf am i reading
Max is a cool dude and some people like to tear down popular likable people any chance they get.
The OP started a shitstorm in a teacup out of jealousy.
sir_bumble_bee
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Just watched the video and honestly... Meh? Yes, he said something that is very offensive to many but the context in which it was used honestly sounded like a tongue twisting mistake. Nothing compared to what comes out of middle-schoolers mouths these days regarding that word (Sheeesh).
Because a few people brought Ryan Davis using the f-word in the heat of the moment up:
He not only immediatly apologized at length but also went ahead and wrote up a blog post called "My Worst Moment".
Now, no one would think Ryan Davis would hate gay people if you knew him at all so you could say that was totally unnecessary and everyone should stop being offended! You'd be an idiot if you would, though. Because Ryan immedtialy recognized the destructive and toxic effect of someone like him just dropping a word like that and acting like it was a normal thing that just kinda happens here and there. He knew it would further incentivize the casual use of that word to describe something you don't like. It would incentivize hat speech as a normal part of the english language.
This can happen. It should never happen but it can. If it does, however, don't write it off or ignore it, but confront yourself with what you just said and apologize for it. Especially if you are active in a community that is known for an overusage of slurs and hate speech.
He not only immediatly apologized at length but also went ahead and wrote up a blog post called "My Worst Moment".
Now, no one would think Ryan Davis would hate gay people if you knew him at all so you could say that was totally unnecessary and everyone should stop being offended! You'd be an idiot if you would, though. Because Ryan immedtialy recognized the destructive and toxic effect of someone like him just dropping a word like that and acting like it was a normal thing that just kinda happens here and there. He knew it would further incentivize the casual use of that word to describe something you don't like. It would incentivize hat speech as a normal part of the english language.
This can happen. It should never happen but it can. If it does, however, don't write it off or ignore it, but confront yourself with what you just said and apologize for it. Especially if you are active in a community that is known for an overusage of slurs and hate speech.
lucebuce12
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You had such potential. But you squandered it.
King Tubby
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Aside from the OP nobody in this thread is calling for the streamer's head. Unless I missed one or two posts it's literally zero people. This oversensitivity some people are railing about is a fucking illusion.
Phrozenflame500
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I mean, it's bad, but I struggle to be too outraged since most Twitch channels are "How did chat sneak a racial slur into text-to-speech/song requests this time?" anyways.
Especially since it seemed like it just slipped out.
Especially since it seemed like it just slipped out.
Alright!
First off, I watched the video. I give Max the benefit of the doubt, not just for the evidence presented but taking into account his good rep established here over the years. That doesn't mean that a healthy dose of side-eye isn't coming his way, but it's okay to chalk it up to a slip of the tongue and move on.
What I find considerably more comical is the rush by several posters to show their asses in futile attempts to shut down the discussion. Whether out of concern for a streamer they like, or - more likely - preemptively shout down anyone who might take offense, the results are the same. Casual dismissal? Gone. They-say-it-why-can't-we-say-it? Gone. Thread whining? Gone. Intent doesn't matter? Gone. "Outrage culture"? Gone.
Listen - preemptively yelling about "outrage" not only exposes a dangerously Philistine pig ignorance on the topic at hand, but social issues in general. You're saying, "it doesn't matter to me, so it shouldn't matter to anyone". That's asshole behaviour, and it will get you clipped.
What you and your ilk need to understand are these 3 key pillars:
1. The narrative is not within your control
2. The discussion will take place without you
3. Nothing of value will be lost
Those of you who received temporary bans are encouraged to view this as a reprieve. Take the opportunity to self-examine why it was so important to jump in and tell people why they shouldn't be offended when literally nobody in the thread had said they were.
Those of you who were permed? You won't be missed.
First off, I watched the video. I give Max the benefit of the doubt, not just for the evidence presented but taking into account his good rep established here over the years. That doesn't mean that a healthy dose of side-eye isn't coming his way, but it's okay to chalk it up to a slip of the tongue and move on.
What I find considerably more comical is the rush by several posters to show their asses in futile attempts to shut down the discussion. Whether out of concern for a streamer they like, or - more likely - preemptively shout down anyone who might take offense, the results are the same. Casual dismissal? Gone. They-say-it-why-can't-we-say-it? Gone. Thread whining? Gone. Intent doesn't matter? Gone. "Outrage culture"? Gone.
Listen - preemptively yelling about "outrage" not only exposes a dangerously Philistine pig ignorance on the topic at hand, but social issues in general. You're saying, "it doesn't matter to me, so it shouldn't matter to anyone". That's asshole behaviour, and it will get you clipped.
What you and your ilk need to understand are these 3 key pillars:
1. The narrative is not within your control
2. The discussion will take place without you
3. Nothing of value will be lost
Those of you who received temporary bans are encouraged to view this as a reprieve. Take the opportunity to self-examine why it was so important to jump in and tell people why they shouldn't be offended when literally nobody in the thread had said they were.
Those of you who were permed? You won't be missed.
Twenty7KVN
Member
Did Max apologize? I looked on his twitter and youtube channel and didn't see anything.
Exploratory
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This thread is a fucking graveyard. What were some of you thinking?
But this sort of thread is eye opening that even a place like GAF isn't above this sort of behavior. And I think sometimes we need a reminder of that.
Edit: On the other hand a lot of those people caught bans so maybe GAF is above this type of behavior. I think it's just eye opening because the reality is the shit that's all over the rest of the internet is here too.
But this sort of thread is eye opening that even a place like GAF isn't above this sort of behavior. And I think sometimes we need a reminder of that.
Edit: On the other hand a lot of those people caught bans so maybe GAF is above this type of behavior. I think it's just eye opening because the reality is the shit that's all over the rest of the internet is here too.
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
I'm honestly stunned at how many GAFers (who are now banned) don't have an issue with this. You don't just say this word on accident unless you are a racist prick. Language like this shouldn't be tolerated anywhere, especially on GAF.
BronsonLee
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Good Lord, Max really stepped in it this time
Salty Hippo
Member
Is that Two Steps from Hell song in the game? Fucking sold if so.
Thank God. This needs to be pinned at the top of GAF. It feels like way too many threads on here devolve into an early afternoon Fox News segment within minutes when it comes to social issues or topics of diversity. I've honestly mostly quit even bothering to visit those threads.
Beyond these types of threads, I'm tired of people responding to any and all criticism of anything ever by just screaming "outrage culture" and ignoring any of the content of the critique. It's a fucking plague these days.
Greatest Ever
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I'll be that guy and point out that the video's description has the word "retard" in it. May not be the most suitable response for this thread.
Not a good look. I popped in a few times last night took look at For Honor. Everytime he'd do that execution he'd make up some weird combination of words to call it. Could be it was just an unfortunate accident since he was just kinda spewing random nonsensical words. Though if that was the case I'm surprised he didn't instantly go "oh shit" and apologize. Maybe he did, but clip doesn't show it. Looks more like he just kinda swept it under the rug hoping no one would notice. I'm going to guess chat's response didn't help things either.
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