Support NeoGAF

[kirblar]

I'm curious of the there was a systemic error from the beginning or if there was a late shift that the state polls were too slow to respond to.

I suspect the latter.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Welp.

I'd be surprised if this doesn't happen.

I mean he helped win him an election.

Fuck Trump would win some of those idiotic anti-west lefties with it.

Might even get kudos from Micheal Moore assuming he hasn't actually smartened up about that motherfucker since 2010.

 

[Dominican Power]

Don't generalize like that. Minority turnout was down too.

Samantha Bee said it herself. She owned up to it.

 

[Wilsongt]

WE ARE SO FUCKING FUCKED GODDAMNIT

 

[Officerrob]

Samantha Bee said it herself. She owned up to it.

I'm white, she was 100% correct

 

[Goodstyle]

Don't generalize like that. Minority turnout was down too.

Hillary was never going to get the same minority turnout as fucking Obama. This is on white people.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Yeah, guys, there's not really any sane basis for pointing at reduced minority turnout as the key flaw here. Not only were Trump voters white, white Democrat turnout was down to a greater extent than minority turnout was.

Does anybody have an age breakdown? After talking to classmates today I have this crazy suspicion that we Millenials are to blame more than anybody else.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

What I learned from this election is that white people are fragile and need to be coddled. If they aren't appeased, they will fuck over every minority group in this country.

Every conversation with diet racists ever

 

[Owzers]

How long into Trump's presidency before he starts joking about Russia having the right idea about the press or Assad and protestors.

 

[Holmes]

I'm so scared thinking about the next four years. Bad things will happen.

 

[pigeon]

Yeah, guys, there's not really any sane basis for pointing at reduced minority turnout as the key flaw here. Not only were Trump voters white, white Democrat turnout was down to a greater extent than minority turnout was.

Does anybody have an age breakdown? After talking to classmates today I have this crazy suspicion that we Millenials are to blame more than anybody else.

White millenials went for Trump according to the exits, although not final.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Part of the reason why it's so hard to activate or turnout Millennials (ime) is that they're just so fucking scared of conflict. You challenge them on anything and they just shy away and mutter something about not wanting to make an issue of it. How can you convince someone to do something when they refuse to have a conversation on any issue that makes them uncomfortable?

White millenials went for Trump according to the exits, although not final.

They did for Romney too, IIRC. Meant more in terms of overall turnout amongst the age group. Wouldn't be shocked if there was a bigger gap in Millenial turnout vs. 2012 than any other divider.

 

[hipsterpants]

To some extent, maybe it's better Trump won now. I think many people, including myself, had a sense that Hillary would be a one-term president, given her favorables and historical precedents. If she lost in 2020, Reps would be able to gerrymander freely after the redistricting and they could have had an actual competent person elected such as a Rubio.

Now, we have a great opportunity in 2020 for a wave election during a census year, which is huge. The next four years will be an absolute mess and that should create a great opening for 8 years of President Franken.

Spoiler

I'm drunk and trying to be optimistic, fuck you

I think most GOP lawmakers/strategists/whatever that didn't truly believe that Clinton would destroy America are afraid of exactly what you said. Especially given the way he won in terms of losing the popular vote. Also something that people haven't been talking about in regards to the election: if Trump the candidate didn't permanently shift minorities to the Democrats, his presidency will. This also goes for a large number of women, especially younger women. This is a bittersweet victory for the GOP and will likely do far more damage to their brand than a Trump loss would have done.

also inb4 someone quotes this and questions if minorities will even be able to vote in 4 years or whatever. Some of you guys need to step back from the ledge.

 

[Paches]

I'm so scared thinking about the next four years. Bad things will happen.

Not even just the next 4 years. This almost ensures the planets destruction due to incoming climate change policy. Our children will grow up and live in a complete hellscape.

 

[Holmes]

I'm ready for a bloodbath of a midterm for Republicans. Crush their hope in 2018 and then take the White House in 2020. I want Sherrod Brown as President and either Warren or Hassan as Veep.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Yeah, guys, there's not really any sane basis for pointing at reduced minority turnout as the key flaw here. Not only were Trump voters white, white Democrat turnout was down to a greater extent than minority turnout was.

Does anybody have an age breakdown? After talking to classmates today I have this crazy suspicion that we Millenials are to blame more than anybody else.

millenials went trump at like a 45-55 rate

If you're talking to a millenial and they don't mention who they voted for I think we all know which way they went

 

[B-Dubs]

White millenials went for Trump according to the exits, although not final.

I am shocked by this, fucking shocked. I can't believe white millenials would do this.

Oh wait, I totally believe this.

 

[Crocodile]

I think most GOP lawmakers/strategists/whatever that didn't truly believe that Clinton would destroy America are afraid of exactly what you said. Especially given the way he won in terms of losing the popular vote. Also something that people haven't been talking about in regards to the election: if Trump the candidate didn't permanently shift minorities to the Democrats, his presidency will. This also goes for a large number of women, especially younger women. This is a bittersweet victory for the GOP and will likely do far more damage to their brand than a Trump loss would have done.

also inb4 someone quotes this and questions if minorities will even be able to vote in 4 years or whatever. Some of you guys need to step back from the ledge.

I mean White Women were ok voting for Trump, the pussy-grabber, this week, will that really be different enough in 4 years?

 

[Four_Chamber]

I just had to share this Jason Kander letter in the Missouri Times- how can you not be fired up after reading this? He ought to run again in 2018 for McCaskill's seat if she isn't running for re-election- in a crappy year he came within 3 points of unseating an incumbent GOP senator in Missouri! I have a strong feeling with the right DNC leadership the party will be on the right track for midterms.

http://themissouritimes.com/35621/message-jason-kander-thank/

This is the message where I’m supposed to thank you for all you’ve done for me, tell you how much it meant to me, and then say my goodbyes and wish you luck on your journey. I’m supposed to say something like, “Perhaps our paths will cross again.”

But that’s not how I roll. Of course, I am thankful to you and I’m forever grateful for this experience. But why wouldn’t I be? Let’s talk about something important.

We’re all disappointed about Tuesday night’s results. We lost an election. In fact, we – the Democrats – lost a whole mess of elections on Tuesday.

But please know that I’m going to be fine. My wife is gorgeous and brilliant and my son True is my best little buddy in the world. We are not the people who will be hurt by these election results. So please don’t spend any time being sad for me. If you’re going to be sad for someone, make it the single mom who has cancer and is scared to death about being unable to keep her insurance to continue treatments without Obamacare. Worry about the undocumented student who has only ever known this country and is worried about what happens to her now. Worry about the minimum wage worker trying to stretch $30 into a full grocery trip. Let your heart go out to the college student saddled with enormous debt and unable to get help from a parent whose own graduate degree has forced him into bankruptcy.

I met each of those people, in real life, during this campaign. And it fueled me the whole way. But here’s the thing, that fuel is still in my tank. Why? I love this country and I won’t let losing an election force me away from the process.

Pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. Yes, Donald Trump is going to be President and the Republicans control the House and the Senate, but I need that to double your resolve, not cause you to give up on our politics.

Be proud of the campaign we ran. In a “red” state that Donald Trump won by 19%, we came within 3% of turning the Senate seat blue. And we didn’t do it by hugging the middle and pretending to be moderate Republicans.

I wouldn’t change a single day on this campaign. I’m proud that we took on some of the biggest names in Republican politics and darn near shocked the world. We fought for smart environmental policies, for unions, for LGBT equality, for commonsense gun safety, and a host of other important causes. I’m proud that we didn’t back down and that we demonstrated that the most important thing Democrats can do is make their argument.

If you were a part of this campaign in even the smallest way, you might feel like stepping away from it all to lick your wounds. Maybe you think you’re done with volunteering or donating or even believing in anything changing. Well, you won’t get a pass from me. Staying engaged has become more important than ever.

And this is the time to maintain that engagement. A new generation is stepping forward in America. Don’t let anyone tell you that this generation is selfish. This is a generation that cares more about ideas than ideology and measures patriotism not by a politician’s eagerness to go to war but by their willingness to do what’s right no matter the political cost. And this generation knows better than to let any politician – even a President – tell them that a changing country is a declining country.

I don’t know what I’m going to do next or even whether I’ll ever place my name on a ballot again, but I know I’m not leaving this cause behind. To truly care about this country is to demonstrate that you care about her politics the same when you’re winning as when you’re losing.

America needs you now more than ever. So don’t quit! This generation is patriotic, creative, selfless, and – most importantly – numerous. My campaign might no longer be the vehicle for your activism, but that doesn’t mean you’re excused from standing up and making your voice heard.

Take some time off…

Ok, was that enough time?

We have work to do. You in?

 

[Wilsongt]

As a gay man... I am so glad I have no plans to get married in the next 4 years. I am just scared the gaystapo is going to come grab me and send me to conversion therapy run by Rupaul.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Not even just the next 4 years. This almost ensures the planets destruction due to incoming climate change policy. Our children will grow up and live in a complete hellscape.

That we can still fix, though it might be outrageously expensive and/or have nasty side effects. Conservation as a means of fighting climate change was always a fool's errand, imo.

I just had to share this Jason Kander letter in the Missouri Times- how can you not be fired up after reading this? He ought to run again in 2018 for McCaskill's seat if she isn't running for re-election- in a crappy year he came within 3 points of unseating an incumbent GOP senator in Missouri! I have a strong feeling with the right DNC leadership the party will be on the right track for midterms.

http://themissouritimes.com/35621/message-jason-kander-thank/

We need this guy in office.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

White people elected Donald Trump. Every other demographic in the country voted against him hugely. White people put him in the White House.

If you're a white guy who worked hard, I appreciate you. But I also expect you to own that white people are responsible for electing this man, because he is a white nationalist.

It's not our fault because for once we couldn't hold back the tide of white nationalist voters.

That's true. I read the original post as meaning liberal whites not turning out. I see now that he meant the whites who did turn out and voted like assholes.

 

[Holmes]

Not even just the next 4 years. This almost ensures the planets destruction due to incoming climate change policy. Our children will grow up and live in a complete hellscape.

I was hyped when Clinton would talk about installing half a billion solar panels in 4 years because my husband and I would discuss getting solar panels here and there and I was hoping to participate in a program that would allow me to get some.

Now? Ha. Maybe governor Newsom will throw us a bone when he's elected.

 

[Grexeno]

I just had to share this Jason Kander letter in the Missouri Times- how can you not be fired up after reading this? He ought to run again in 2018 for McCaskill's seat if she isn't running for re-election- in a crappy year he came within 3 points of unseating an incumbent GOP senator in Missouri! I have a strong feeling with the right DNC leadership the party will be on the right track for midterms.

http://themissouritimes.com/35621/me...-kander-thank/

Force McCaskill out so he can run.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Hillary was never going to get the same minority turnout as fucking Obama. This is on white people.

This is on white people, and it's on everybody who stayed home who woould have voted for Clinton. There's plenty of blame to go around here.

 

[Kid Heart]

I just had to share this Jason Kander letter in the Missouri Times- how can you not be fired up after reading this? He ought to run again in 2018 for McCaskill's seat if she isn't running for re-election- in a crappy year he came within 3 points of unseating an incumbent GOP senator in Missouri! I have a strong feeling with the right DNC leadership the party will be on the right track for midterms.

http://themissouritimes.com/35621/message-jason-kander-thank/

Seems like a pretty cool guy. Hope he does decide to run again in some form or another.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

This is on white people, and it's on everybody who stayed home who woould have voted for Clinton. There's plenty of blame to go around here.

It's also on Clinton and her team.

Trump really did just outwork her.

 

[GutsOfThor]

Sorry in advance for the long post, but I hate social media and I need to put this somewhere.

Not that I disagree with the sentiment that America needs to find a way to move forward from here, but the hypocrisy on display from the people preaching "unity! We must come together to support our president!" is grating on me.

For context, I grew up in a very conservative farm town. My degree is in political science (from Paul Ryan's alma mater no less....). I am still technically registered as a republican (voted for Kasich in the primaries as an attempt to stop Trump, alas) but I've been an independent for as long as I've been voting. I like people who are liberal socially and who care about people and their well being. I also care about being good stewards of the resources we are given in a country as wealthy as this and creating lasting economic change and national debt relief that comes with both higher taxes on the wealthy and common sense spending and waste savings. That typically lines up with democrats just because the social issues are so critical, but some republicans as well.

I look at government the way I look at my reponsibility to my family and friends. Take care of people, love them for who they are, make responsible decisions now that will pay dividends later, make more than you spend, invest in learning, make people better today than they were yesterday, if you have plenty then give to those who have few, if you are fortunate then help those who aren't.

I was all in for Hillary this time around because I felt that from her campaign, from the people around her, from the contrast to her opponent. This election could not have been more disappointing to me, but it's worse for others who will be more directly impacted than a white guy from Ohio.

To say, in that context, 2 days after the most divisive campaign of all time "c'mon guys, let's just come together and support our president" is tone deaf. It's like telling someone "I told you so" when their world crashes down. There might be truth there but no one wants to hear it right now. Not after this election. Not in this climate. People need time to digest. People need to have it clearly demonstrated that their fears aren't all coming true at once. Hopefully that will be the case. Hopefully the people emboldened by this election will quiet down in a couple days and hopefully Trump will walk back a lot of his nasty awful and hurtful ideas. There's no evidence of that yet though, so people can't be expected to jump to that conclusion.

What i want to say to people I grew up with (and will in person to some that i still interact with) is where was your call for unity the last 8 years? Where was it when republicans obstructed everything this president wanted to do. Where was it when nominees weren't confirmed. When people questioned if our first black president was even born in this country. When people thought he was some kind of secret Muslim agent sent to destroy our country. When he had to be flawless to even have a chance.

Cause I know where they were...I saw it...and it certainly wasn't calling for unity.

Great post. I have extended family that were posting today about unity that voted for trump and you summed up what I wanted to say to them.

 

[DrForester]

Any chance Obama spends the next 2 moths just non-stop pardoning of drug offenses now that Hillary tanked the party and he's got nothing to lose?

 

[Totakeke]

It's also on Clinton and her team.

Trump really did just outwork her.

With all the high-power surrogates going around, are the electorate really going like. "Obama is here instead of Hillary, no way I'm voting for her now"?

They had the wrong strategy, effort wasn't the problem.

 

[Wilsongt]

Any chance Obama spends the next 2 moths just non-stop pardoning of drug offenses now that Hillary tanked the party and he's got nothing to lose?

Anything he does is worthless.

 

[Paches]

Any chance Obama spends the next 2 moths just non-stop pardoning of drug offenses now that Hillary tanked the party and he's got nothing to lose?

A full pardon of Snowden would make me feel better.

(I know this will never happen, don't worry)

 

[DrForester]

With all the high-power surrogates going around, are the electorate really going like. "Obama is here instead of Hillary, no way I'm voting for her now"?

They had the wrong strategy, effort wasn't the problem.

If it's true her campaign didn't do tracking polls int he last month, then yeah, there a LOT on her and her campaign for screwing it up. Shows she learned nothing after 2008 and took way too much for granted.

Anything he does is worthless.

Pardons can't be overturned, can they?

 

[RustyNails]

Force McCaskill out so he can run.

Not sure if thats a good idea. But they will have dem primaries, I think and that's his shot. Or have him contest a congressional seat.

 

[Dierce]

Anything he does is worthless.

A presidential pardon can be rescinded?

 

[Poodlestrike]

Any chance Obama spends the next 2 moths just non-stop pardoning of drug offenses now that Hillary tanked the party and he's got nothing to lose?

This is actually a really good idea. Engenders good feelings amongst the base (especially minorities), and just about anybody who'd get pissed off about it is already angry, or by 2018, will have forgotten about it.

ed: Pardons can't be rescinded, Wilsongt is just in full despair panic mode.

 

[B-Dubs]

With all the high-power surrogates going around, are the electorate really going like. "Obama is here instead of Hillary, no way I'm voting for her now"?

They had the wrong strategy, effort wasn't the problem.

I'm not trying to excuse the campaign but I'm not even sure it was that, we're talking 1% of the vote in like a handful of states. She's going to get the popular vote by like 2% from the look of it. They definitely fucked up bad by being in a position where Comey could swing it, they should have spent more time in the rust belt instead of trying to expand the map early, but I think a lot of it might be on him too.

 

[Totakeke]

I'm not trying to excuse the campaign but I'm not even sure it was that, we're talking 1% of the vote in like a handful of states. She's going to get the popular vote by like 2% from the look of it. They definitely fucked up bad by being in a position where Comey could swing it, they should have spent more time in the rust belt instead of trying to expand the map early, but I think a lot of it might be on him too.

Minor strategy, but still strategy.

 

[Tall4Life]

Anything he does is worthless.

I don't think you can reverse a pardon. You can reverse an executive order though.

 

[Barzul]

Guys I implore you to read this. Please. It's long and it's wordy but it must be read in it's entirety to fully understand the message it projects. It was also written in April of 2016 and it is a significant reason why we've lost middle America.

The smug style in American liberalism

It's premise can be boiled down to this. When Hillary Clinton used the word "deplorable" she lost the election. Just like when Mitt Romney uttered the phrase "47 percent" he was doomed.

 

[Grief.exe]

Michael Moore predicted this back in July.

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

Friends:

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November. This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, ‘cause you’ll be saying them for the next four years: “PRESIDENT TRUMP.”

Never in my life have I wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.

I can see what you’re doing right now. You’re shaking your head wildly – “No, Mike, this won’t happen!” Unfortunately, you are living in a bubble that comes with an adjoining echo chamber where you and your friends are convinced the American people are not going to elect an idiot for president. You alternate between being appalled at him and laughing at him because of his latest crazy comment or his embarrassingly narcissistic stance on everything because everything is about him. And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real. Trying to soothe yourself with the facts – “77% of the electorate are women, people of color, young adults under 35 and Trump cant win a majority of any of them!” – or logic – “people aren’t going to vote for a buffoon or against their own best interests!” – is your brain’s way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, “oh, a tire just blew out,” or, “wow, who’s playing with firecrackers?” because you don’t want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It’s the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said “a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center.” We want to – we need to – hope for the best because, frankly, life is already a shit show and it’s hard enough struggling to get by from paycheck to paycheck. We can’t handle much more bad news. So our mental state goes to default when something scary is actually, truly happening. The first people plowed down by the truck in Nice spent their final moments on earth waving at the driver whom they thought had simply lost control of his truck, trying to tell him that he jumped the curb: “Watch out!,” they shouted. “There are people on the sidewalk!”

Well, folks, this isn’t an accident. It is happening. And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen – and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we’re in.

Don’t get me wrong. I have great hope for the country I live in. Things are better. The left has won the cultural wars. Gays and lesbians can get married. A majority of Americans now take the liberal position on just about every polling question posed to them: Equal pay for women – check. Abortion should be legal – check. Stronger environmental laws – check. More gun control – check. Legalize marijuana – check. A huge shift has taken place – just ask the socialist who won 22 states this year. And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it’s hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November – who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who’s the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking ass all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot? That’s right. That’s the high level of danger we’re in. And don’t fool yourself — no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.

Here are the 5 reasons Trump is going to win:

• Midwest Math, or Welcome to Our Rust Belt Brexit. I believe Trump is going to focus much of his attention on the four blue states in the rustbelt of the upper Great Lakes – Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Four traditionally Democratic states – but each of them have elected a Republican governor since 2010 (only Pennsylvania has now finally elected a Democrat). In the Michigan primary in March, more Michiganders came out to vote for the Republicans (1.32 million) that the Democrats (1.19 million). Trump is ahead of Hillary in the latest polls in Pennsylvania and tied with her in Ohio. Tied? How can the race be this close after everything Trump has said and done? Well maybe it’s because he’s said (correctly) that the Clintons’ support of NAFTA helped to destroy the industrial states of the Upper Midwest. Trump is going to hammer Clinton on this and her support of TPP and other trade policies that have royally screwed the people of these four states. When Trump stood in the shadow of a Ford Motor factory during the Michigan primary, he threatened the corporation that if they did indeed go ahead with their planned closure of that factory and move it to Mexico, he would slap a 35% tariff on any Mexican-built cars shipped back to the United States. It was sweet, sweet music to the ears of the working class of Michigan, and when he tossed in his threat to Apple that he would force them to stop making their iPhones in China and build them here in America, well, hearts swooned and Trump walked away with a big victory that should have gone to the governor next-door, John Kasich.
  
  From Green Bay to Pittsburgh, this, my friends, is the middle of England – broken, depressed, struggling, the smokestacks strewn across the countryside with the carcass of what we use to call the Middle Class. Angry, embittered working (and nonworking) people who were lied to by the trickle-down of Reagan and abandoned by Democrats who still try to talk a good line but are really just looking forward to rub one out with a lobbyist from Goldman Sachs who’ll write them nice big check before leaving the room. What happened in the UK with Brexit is going to happen here. Elmer Gantry shows up looking like Boris Johnson and just says whatever shit he can make up to convince the masses that this is their chance! To stick to ALL of them, all who wrecked their American Dream! And now The Outsider, Donald Trump, has arrived to clean house! You don’t have to agree with him! You don’t even have to like him! He is your personal Molotov cocktail to throw right into the center of the bastards who did this to you! SEND A MESSAGE! TRUMP IS YOUR MESSENGER!
  
  And this is where the math comes in. In 2012, Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes. Add up the electoral votes cast by Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. It’s 64. All Trump needs to do to win is to carry, as he’s expected to do, the swath of traditional red states from Idaho to Georgia (states that’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton), and then he just needs these four rust belt states. He doesn’t need Florida. He doesn’t need Colorado or Virginia. Just Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And that will put him over the top. This is how it will happen in November.
  
• The Last Stand of the Angry White Man. Our male-dominated, 240-year run of the USA is coming to an end. A woman is about to take over! How did this happen?! On our watch! There were warning signs, but we ignored them. Nixon, the gender traitor, imposing Title IX on us, the rule that said girls in school should get an equal chance at playing sports. Then they let them fly commercial jets. Before we knew it, Beyoncé stormed on the field at this year’s Super Bowl (our game!) with an army of Black Women, fists raised, declaring that our domination was hereby terminated! Oh, the humanity!
  
  That’s a small peek into the mind of the Endangered White Male. There is a sense that the power has slipped out of their hands, that their way of doing things is no longer how things are done. This monster, the “Feminazi,”the thing that as Trump says, “bleeds through her eyes or wherever she bleeds,” has conquered us — and now, after having had to endure eight years of a black man telling us what to do, we’re supposed to just sit back and take eight years of a woman bossing us around? After that it’ll be eight years of the gays in the White House! Then the transgenders! You can see where this is going. By then animals will have been granted human rights and a fuckin’ hamster is going to be running the country. This has to stop!
  
• The Hillary Problem. Can we speak honestly, just among ourselves? And before we do, let me state, I actually like Hillary – a lot – and I think she has been given a bad rap she doesn’t deserve. But her vote for the Iraq War made me promise her that I would never vote for her again. To date, I haven’t broken that promise. For the sake of preventing a proto-fascist from becoming our commander-in-chief, I’m breaking that promise. I sadly believe Clinton will find a way to get us in some kind of military action. She’s a hawk, to the right of Obama. But Trump’s psycho finger will be on The Button, and that is that. Done and done.
  
  Let’s face it: Our biggest problem here isn’t Trump – it’s Hillary. She is hugely unpopular — nearly 70% of all voters think she is untrustworthy and dishonest. She represents the old way of politics, not really believing in anything other than what can get you elected. That’s why she fights against gays getting married one moment, and the next she’s officiating a gay marriage. Young women are among her biggest detractors, which has to hurt considering it’s the sacrifices and the battles that Hillary and other women of her generation endured so that this younger generation would never have to be told by the Barbara Bushes of the world that they should just shut up and go bake some cookies. But the kids don’t like her, and not a day goes by that a millennial doesn’t tell me they aren’t voting for her. No Democrat, and certainly no independent, is waking up on November 8th excited to run out and vote for Hillary the way they did the day Obama became president or when Bernie was on the primary ballot. The enthusiasm just isn’t there. And because this election is going to come down to just one thing — who drags the most people out of the house and gets them to the polls — Trump right now is in the catbird seat.
  
• The Depressed Sanders Vote. Stop fretting about Bernie’s supporters not voting for Clinton – we’re voting for Clinton! The polls already show that more Sanders voters will vote for Hillary this year than the number of Hillary primary voters in ’08 who then voted for Obama. This is not the problem. The fire alarm that should be going off is that while the average Bernie backer will drag him/herself to the polls that day to somewhat reluctantly vote for Hillary, it will be what’s called a “depressed vote” – meaning the voter doesn’t bring five people to vote with her. He doesn’t volunteer 10 hours in the month leading up to the election. She never talks in an excited voice when asked why she’s voting for Hillary. A depressed voter. Because, when you’re young, you have zero tolerance for phonies and BS. Returning to the Clinton/Bush era for them is like suddenly having to pay for music, or using MySpace or carrying around one of those big-ass portable phones. They’re not going to vote for Trump; some will vote third party, but many will just stay home. Hillary Clinton is going to have to do something to give them a reason to support her — and picking a moderate, bland-o, middle of the road old white guy as her running mate is not the kind of edgy move that tells millenials that their vote is important to Hillary. Having two women on the ticket – that was an exciting idea. But then Hillary got scared and has decided to play it safe. This is just one example of how she is killing the youth vote.
  
• The Jesse Ventura Effect. Finally, do not discount the electorate’s ability to be mischievous or underestimate how any millions fancy themselves as closet anarchists once they draw the curtain and are all alone in the voting booth. It’s one of the few places left in society where there are no security cameras, no listening devices, no spouses, no kids, no boss, no cops, there’s not even a friggin’ time limit. You can take as long as you need in there and no one can make you do anything. You can push the button and vote a straight party line, or you can write in Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. There are no rules. And because of that, and the anger that so many have toward a broken political system, millions are going to vote for Trump not because they agree with him, not because they like his bigotry or ego, but just because they can. Just because it will upset the apple cart and make mommy and daddy mad. And in the same way like when you’re standing on the edge of Niagara Falls and your mind wonders for a moment what would that feel like to go over that thing, a lot of people are going to love being in the position of puppetmaster and plunking down for Trump just to see what that might look like. Remember back in the ‘90s when the people of Minnesota elected a professional wrestler as their governor? They didn’t do this because they’re stupid or thought that Jesse Ventura was some sort of statesman or political intellectual. They did so just because they could. Minnesota is one of the smartest states in the country. It is also filled with people who have a dark sense of humor — and voting for Ventura was their version of a good practical joke on a sick political system. This is going to happen again with Trump.

 

[Totakeke]

Guys I implore you to read this. Please. It's long and it's wordy but it must be read in it's entirety to fully understand the message it projects. It was also written in April of 2016 and it is a significant reason why we've lost middle America.

The smug style in American liberalism

It's premise can be boiled down to this. When Hillary Clinton used the word "deplorable" she lost the election. Just like when Mitt Romney uttered the phrase "47 percent" he was doomed.

How about the democrat candidate is held to standards a million times higher than the republican candidate.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Guys I implore you to read this. Please. It's long and it's wordy but it must be read in it's entirety to fully understand the message it projects. It was also written in April of 2016 and it is a significant reason why we've lost middle America.

The smug style in American liberalism

It's premise can be boiled down to this. When Hillary Clinton used the word "deplorable" she lost the election. Just like when Mitt Romney uttered the phrase "47 percent" he was doomed.

The author of that article proposed intentionally starting riots that could kill Trump supporters a few months after that post.

I... I'm not sure he has the pulse of people that voted for Donald Trump.

 

[UltimaPooh]

How long into Trump's presidency before he starts joking about Russia having the right idea about the press or Assad and protestors.

Hey there Owzers! Played any Overwatch since the election?

I can't even get excited about Sombra anymore. It has put a cloud over my gaming.

 

[pigeon]

Guys I implore you to read this. Please. It's long and it's wordy but it must be read in it's entirety to fully understand the message it projects. It was also written in April of 2016 and it is a significant reason why we've lost middle America.

The smug style in American liberalism

It's premise can be boiled down to this. When Hillary Clinton used the word "deplorable" she lost the election. Just like when Mitt Romney uttered the phrase "47 percent" he was doomed.

Here's a theory -- maybe liberals look down on rural whites because they think it is appropriate to elect a white nationalist and a sex offender to destroy America because they find people condescending.

 

[PInk Tape]

Of course he's trying to get Jeff Sessions in his cabinet.

I mean he helped win him an election.

Fuck Trump would win some of those idiotic anti-west lefties with it.

Might even get kudos from Micheal Moore assuming he hasn't actually smartened up about that motherfucker since 2010.

True. Anti-west lefties are such morons.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Here's a theory -- maybe liberals look down on rural whites because they think it is appropriate to elect a white nationalist and a sex offender to destroy America because they find people condescending.

How would rural whites even be able to tell if we're looking down on them or not?

Trump and his fans believe that "the world is laughing at us!" when the world finally has admired us from 2009 to 2016. They don't consume any news media from liberals, they probably don't want the NBA so their sports don't have liberalism other than Kaep. Most movies have no political messages nowadays...

How would they even tell if liberals started not looking down on them?

 

[shinra-bansho]

That's not a vision. People need something to attach themselves to, a sentence that defines a President.

That's not a vision. That's a slogan. The exact thing we're excoriating the campaign for. If she had laid out the vision she did 20 years ago about more love and kindness that she started going towards near the end maybe that would have been a compelling vision. Or maybe we'd just point and laugh at the emotional woman like people did 20 years ago.

Because hate trumps love.

 

[Barzul]

How about the democrat candidate is held to standards a million times higher than the republican candidate.

This is true, but why? I think bc there is more intersectionality with middle America social ideologies and GOP than with liberals especially those that never have to see this stuff in their day to day. Basically they are wary and mistrustful of us. What do you think the reason is?

Here's a theory -- maybe liberals look down on rural whites because they think it is appropriate to elect a white nationalist and a sex offender to destroy America because they find people condescending.

You want another 4 years of him?

 

[Loxley]

I just had to share this Jason Kander letter in the Missouri Times- how can you not be fired up after reading this? He ought to run again in 2018 for McCaskill's seat if she isn't running for re-election- in a crappy year he came within 3 points of unseating an incumbent GOP senator in Missouri! I have a strong feeling with the right DNC leadership the party will be on the right track for midterms.

http://themissouritimes.com/35621/message-jason-kander-thank/

Reading that had me all like:

I hope that dude makes it into office eventually.